# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 553
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11044 "2017-09-09T16:20:28Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Get a load of Betsy DeVos’s freaking house. > > [http://theslot.jezebel.com/get-a-load-of-betsy-devoss-freaking-house-1802062463](http://theslot.jezebel.com/get-a-load-of-betsy-devoss-freaking-house-1802062463) > > The comments are simply _delicious._ I’ll bet the housekeeping staff uses a _ton_ of cleaning products. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11045 "2017-09-09T17:24:20Z")
A house should say something, make a statement. This one proudly announces “Oink!”. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11046 "2017-09-09T17:34:05Z")
When GAWD is your ally, you need a [home for imaginary friends](http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9200000/Foster-s-fosters-home-for-imaginary-friends-9252582-1024-768.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11047 "2017-09-09T18:09:10Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Get a load of Betsy DeVos’s freaking house. > > [http://theslot.jezebel.com/get-a-load-of-betsy-devoss-freaking-house-1802062463](http://theslot.jezebel.com/get-a-load-of-betsy-devoss-freaking-house-1802062463) > > The comments are simply _delicious._ isn’t Holland the town that made it into the news last week when the $100-a-pop mayor outlawed heterosexuals from the town? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11048 "2017-09-09T18:14:46Z")
One of Nate’s people [notes that](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-job-approval-rating-is-up-a-tick/) the Orange Snowflakes numbers have improved by a percentage point or two, > [@](#): > > The small improvement could be statistical noise … (or perhaps) a slight boost from the federal government’s largely smooth response to Hurricane Harvey.… > > It’s also possible that Harvey merely shifted Americans’ news focus from the Trump agenda to a natural disaster.… (his approval ratings) may decline as the news media returns its focus to Trump. (Of course, Hurricane Irma will likely hit the continental U.S. over the next few days.) The news will focus on some disaster or another. If the conflagration in the WH is the biggest one, I guess that is what we will hear about. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11049 "2017-09-09T19:39:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > isn’t Holland the town that made it into the news last week when the $100-a-pop mayor outlawed heterosexuals from the town? No, Holland is a resort/college town on Lake Michigan. You’re thinking of Hell, an unincorporated area that isn’t actually anything other than a chunk of land with a funny name. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11050 "2017-09-09T19:52:30Z")
Wait, they banned the gays from Hell? Where will they go now? ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11051 "2017-09-09T20:07:41Z")
They banned heteros from hell. Also, Saugatuck is the de facto gay capital of Michigan last I checked. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11052 "2017-09-09T20:08:50Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Funny how that travel ban is within Trump’s authority but DACA wasn’t in Obama’s authority. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s okay when Republicans do it. > [@Trancephalic](#): > > They banned heteros from hell. > > Also, Saugatuck is the de facto gay capital of Michigan last I checked. Not to be confused with Suckadick, the de facto capital of dumbshits last I checked. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11053 "2017-09-09T20:47:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’ll bet the housekeeping staff uses a _ton_ of cleaning products. Staff? Are you saying Betsy doesn’t get down on her hands and knees and scrub those floors _herself?_ ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11054 "2017-09-09T21:10:21Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Staff? Are you saying Betsy doesn’t get down on her hands and knees and scrub those floors _herself?_ I don’t like you. You made me envision DeVos on her hands and knees. Or even just her knees. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11055 "2017-09-09T21:17:11Z")
Trump pastor Paula White [bears false witness.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/09/09/trump-pastor-paula-white-the-president-100-percent-is-a-christian-a-person-of-repentance/) > [@](#): > > While speaking about the way Christians impact politics — and how she and her board impact Trump — White began speaking about Trump’s spiritual character. The president stirred controversy during the campaign by saying he has never sought God’s forgiveness and doesn’t like to have to ask for it. > > “Our president 100 percent is a Christian who understands receiving faith by the grace of the lord, Jesus. He understands repentance, and I’ve seen him on many occasions in private and even in public,” she said. Trump is “a person of repentance.” ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11056 "2017-09-09T21:18:23Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Not to be confused with Suckadick, the de facto capital of dumbshits last I checked. How’s the weather there? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11057 "2017-09-09T21:51:01Z")
[Trump reportedly complained that the emir of Kuwait’s plane is bigger than his](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-plane-air-force-one-emir-kuwait-2017-9) > [@](#): > > In an Oval Office meeting with congressional Democrats on Thursday, President Donald Trump reportedly complained that Air Force One is smaller than the plane flown by the emir of Kuwait, who visited the White House this week. I’ll bet the Emir’s dick is bigger, too. Note to Cheeto: It’s not “your” plane. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11058 "2017-09-09T22:18:24Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump reportedly complained that the emir of Kuwait’s plane is bigger than his](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-plane-air-force-one-emir-kuwait-2017-9) > > I’ll bet the Emir’s dick is bigger, too. > Note to Cheeto: It’s not “your” plane. The Emir’s got more wives and grabs more pussy, too. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11059 "2017-09-09T22:21:27Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > The Emir’s got more wives and grabs more pussy, too. According to the Cheatin’ Cheeto, he’s had a large number of wives. He just wasn’t married to 'em. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11060 "2017-09-09T22:31:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump reportedly complained that the emir of Kuwait’s plane is bigger than his](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-plane-air-force-one-emir-kuwait-2017-9) > > I’ll bet the Emir’s dick is bigger, too. > Note to Cheeto: It’s not “your” plane. I suspect this story, cute as it is, is a bit garbled. The Kuwaiti state aircraft is a Boeing 747-400, while AF1 (military designation VC-25), is a modified version of the earlier 747-200. Overall length is the same for both, although the -400 has a longer upper deck. This article from the (UK) Independent: > **[Donald Trump 'jealous of Kuwaiti ruler's plane because it's bigger than his'](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-plane-jealousy-bigger-kuwait-emir-visit-air-force-one-white-house-a7936681.html)** > > The President reportedly complained that the Emir's plane was 100 feet longer than his …suggests that Trump was referring to his personal aircraft (a Boeing 757), although that doesn’t seem to make much sense as he would normally be using aircraft from the government fleet and specifically referred to AF1. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11061 "2017-09-09T22:36:19Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > No, Holland is a resort/college town on Lake Michigan. You’re thinking of Hell, an unincorporated area that isn’t actually anything other than a chunk of land with a funny name. Ah, yes, you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11062 "2017-09-09T22:38:26Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > According to the Cheatin’ Cheeto, he’s had a large number of wives. He just wasn’t married to 'em. Oh yeah? Well, the Emir doesn’t have to travel to Moscow to get Russian hookers. He has them delivered. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11063 "2017-09-09T22:47:47Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Staff? Are you saying Betsy doesn’t get down on her hands and knees and scrub those floors _herself?_ In fairness to DeVos (and you know how much I hate being fair to republicans), there’s an interesting story about her on the most recent This American Life. She definitely comes off well on a personal level… she seems to actively believe in the idea of helping out students. She mentored various students personally, and in one case discussed, her mentee’s mother had health problems, and had trouble keeping a job, so DeVos hired her to do her laundry, and the mentee herself also works at the DeVos house during summers. She has nothing but good things to say about DeVos, who seems to have been very financially generous. None of which, of course, in any way suggests that DeVos is remotely qualified to make educational policy for the nation (or for her state), of course… and in fact, you could argue that her personal generosity, and seeing that she made a difference in individual kids lives, taught her exactly the wrong lesson about how to improve the lives of students as a whole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=552) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=554)