# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 557
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11124 "2017-09-13T01:54:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > You misspelled “the fourth Mrs. Trump”. I got the impression that the Kelly / McMaster grown up faction wasn’t crazy about Trump’s hot 28 year old " confidante ", I wonder how he got them to sign off on it. Maybe she’s his teward for being good and not saying anything crazy for two whole weeks. She’s a great addition to the reality show, though. Maybe the season finale will feature a Hope/Melania catfight in the Oval Office. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11125 "2017-09-13T02:14:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > You misspelled “the fourth Mrs. Trump”. She’s not blonde; I doubt he even recognizes her as human. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11126 "2017-09-13T02:54:58Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I got the impression that the Kelly / McMaster grown up faction wasn’t crazy about Trump’s hot 28 year old " confidante ", I wonder how he got them to sign off on it. Maybe she’s his teward for being good and not saying anything crazy for two whole weeks. > > She’s a great addition to the reality show, though. Maybe the season finale will feature a Hope/Melania catfight in the Oval Office. Kelly probably saw the list of other possible candidates that Herr Trumpenfuhrer wanted to consider and thought she was the least insane or damaging one on it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11127 "2017-09-13T10:58:58Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > Who the hell is Hope Hicks, you ask? Well, she’s a 28-year-old former model friend of Ivanka. She’s the one who wrote this gem: > > > [@](#): > > > > President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people … He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor … and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible. > > The best people. She’s also in favor of world peace. > [@bols59](#): > > **Relax.** Don’t do it! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11128 "2017-09-13T14:36:55Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Sounds like one of those activist judges. Activist judges are only bad if they are on the other side (if they are Dem, Repub is OK though). American Sharia, religious police, what’s next. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11129 "2017-09-13T14:38:29Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > But on the bright side, if you ever will be dragged into court, just say you were only acting according to your own morale instead of law, and if one follows one’s conscience, one actually can not commit a crime. Right ? Yeah! The Sovereign Citizen defense! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11130 "2017-09-13T16:08:09Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > In other words, if you’re a Catholic judge, you are legally disqualified from making a decision on abortion or death penalty cases. What is that if not saying that Catholic judges need to place their faith above the Constitution? WEll, your statement “legally disqualified” is false, Barrett clearly argues against that. Her position is that if a Catholic judge feels their faith prevents them from judging a death penalty case in accordance with the law, they should recuse themselves. How is that placing faith above the Constitution? ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11131 "2017-09-13T20:40:19Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > WEll, your statement “legally disqualified” is false, Barrett clearly argues against that. > > Her position is that if a Catholic judge feels their faith prevents them from judging a death penalty case in accordance with the law, they should recuse themselves. How is that placing faith above the Constitution? Because she’s not merely saying that Catholic judges should recuse themselves “if they feel their faith prevents them from judging” a case. Were that the case, there would be no need for the paper - there is already a system in place for judges to recuse themselves from such cases. No, the paper argues beyond that: > [@](#): > > …Catholic judges will want to sit whenever possible without acting immorally. However, litigants and the general public are entitled to impartial justice, which may be something a judge who is heedful of ecclesiastical pronouncements cannot dispense. Therefore, the authors argue, **we need to know whether judges are legally disqualified from hearing cases that their consciences would let them decide**. While mere identification of a judge as Catholic is not sufficient reason for recusal under federal law, **the authors suggest that the moral impossibility of enforcing capital punishment in such cases as sentencing, enforcing jury recommendations, and affirming are in fact reasons for not participating**. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11132 "2017-09-14T01:10:30Z")
Jesus. Is this whole administration nothing but grifters? [Treasury Secretary Mnuchin requested government jet for European honeymoon.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-requested-government-jet-european-honeymoon/story?id=49777076) ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11133 "2017-09-14T01:37:02Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Jesus. Is this whole administration nothing but grifters? [Treasury Secretary Mnuchin requested government jet for European honeymoon.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-requested-government-jet-european-honeymoon/story?id=49777076) Isn’t he the one that keeps flying USA to go everywhere, including home, watched the eclipse on top of Fort Knox, and has the utterly clueless wife? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11134 "2017-09-14T01:54:49Z")
Yeah, that’s the one. An ugly little Goldman-Sachs guy who’s loaded to the gunwales with personal cash, but he wants my tax dollars to ship himself and his blondie trophy whore all over Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11135 "2017-09-14T02:29:05Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, that’s the one. An ugly little Goldman-Sachs guy who’s loaded to the gunwales with personal cash, but he wants my tax dollars to ship himself and his blondie trophy whore all over Europe. And, like all these people, loaded to the gunwales with his dad’s money. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11136 "2017-09-14T02:33:06Z")
Check out the wedding pics in post #11128. You can tell she married for Love. Who could resist that face? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11137 "2017-09-14T02:33:52Z")
Also today, the Office of Government Ethics [reversed the rules](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/13/trump-ethics-watchdog-legal-defense-242690) regarding anonymous donations to White House staff legal defense funds. For some reason. Swamp officially drained. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11138 "2017-09-14T02:44:32Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Check out the wedding pics in post #11128. You can tell she married for Love. Who could resist that face? His face is like “She might actually let me touch her tonight!” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11139 "2017-09-14T02:58:01Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, that’s the one. An ugly little Goldman-Sachs guy who’s loaded to the gunwales with personal cash, but he wants my tax dollars to ship himself and his blondie trophy whore all over Europe. He inflicted “Suicide Squad” on us. Oh, and his wife is an actress who played an actress playing Marie Antoinette in a tv series. Typecasting. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11140 "2017-09-14T04:33:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Jesus. Is this whole administration nothing but grifters? [Treasury Secretary Mnuchin requested government jet for European honeymoon.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-requested-government-jet-european-honeymoon/story?id=49777076) You have to ask? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11141 "2017-09-14T12:30:05Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Check out the wedding pics in post #11128. You can tell she married for Love. Who could resist that face? There are a couple of things about that wedding (which skipped my notice when it happened back in June) that make me roll my eyes and laugh. > **[Inside the extravagant wedding of Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and...](https://www.businessinsider.com/steve-mnuchin-louise-linton-wedding-dress-trump-pence-photos-2017-6)** > > The couple got married over the weekend in front of a star-studded guest list that included President Donald Trump, the vice president, and Cabinet officials. The bride is in her mid-thirties and it’s not her first marriage. Yet she wore an over the top Cinderella wedding dress and…in her words…heaps of diamonds. From the Business Insider account – Linton reportedly wore a pile of jewelry including a tiara, a diamond necklace, pearl drop earrings, multiple diamond rings, diamond bracelets and, of course, her giant Oval diamond engagement ring. I’m thinking Lintons jewelry pieces could serve the same function as the rings on a tree stump. Count them and you’ll know how many times she has sex with Mnuchin. (Funny side note - I just had quite the wrestling match with autocorrect to keep Mnuchin from being changed to Munchkin.) But, back to the wedding … Mike Pence officiated. Now I guess maybe Vice Presidents are like sea captains or something but more likely it’s just like …Oh, Pence is the religious White House guy and he’ll look distinguished in the photos so he’s the obvious choice. Even though Mnuchin is Jewish. And the official wedding portraits show the Mnuchins with the Trumps and Pences. Now, I know most people that get married are photographed with their boss and his second in command… no, actually normal people are photographed with their families. Which are no where to be found in the photos. Maybe because they’re Jewish. And possibly embarrassed. ---
**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11142 "2017-09-14T12:44:33Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It’s just a show. If you’re wondering how Trump could believe His dumb alternate facts _la la la la_ Repeat to yourself Bob Mueller’s here I should really just relax ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11143 "2017-09-14T12:45:58Z")
Trump was never a real Republican. (That’s why our Board’s only intelligent right-winger opposed him and wanted an asshole like Cruz or Pence to win the White House.) We’ve now learned that Trump’s intellect is so limited he just agrees with the last person he talked to. And now he’s talking to his new best friends, Chuck and Nancy! (I’m glad Chuck and Nancy are following my advice and trying to befriend the Orange Buffoon.) [According to a N.Y. Times opinion](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/opinion/donald-trump-inconsistent-taxes.html) Trump now agrees with Chuck and Nancy that any tax cut should be for the middle class, not the rich! (Yes, I know this will change once he listens to Sean Hannity or Martin Shkreli or whoever his next top adviser will be.) > [@](#): > > There’s a plus side to all this craziness. It’s better to have a president who flips around like a jumping bean to one who has a disciplined, well-thought-out strategy for handing corporate America and hedge fund owners more tax breaks. > > You don’t want all that much consistency when you’ve got a chief executive whose recent triumph in regulatory reform was to roll back the requirement that new highways be protected against flooding — 10 days before the first hurricane. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=556) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=558)