# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 570
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11384 "2017-09-23T19:12:42Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > I’m actually impressed that he can do that. It’s not perfectly smooth, but better than I could do. I would totally freeze. Damn. I would rehearse. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11385 "2017-09-23T19:16:46Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I would rehearse. Listening to just about anyone from this administration make a speech is like being back in 5th grade english class where you are reading out loud from the book. It is apparent that this is the first time they have seen the material, that the material doesn’t actually mean anything to them, and that they aren’t really all that good at reading either. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11386 "2017-09-23T19:19:07Z")
Talk about the gift that keeps on giving. Just when I get to thinking Trump couldn’t possibly be more of a flaming asshole, he immediately proves me wrong. > [@eschereal](#): > > Orange ShitGibbon:Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, “Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out! He’s fired?” > > He’s fired! You know, some owner is gonna do that. He’s gonna say, “That guy that disrespects our flag, he’s fired.” > > … adding that he thinks any owner who fired a player for that reason would be “the most popular person in the country.” The day that happens is the last day I ever watch an NFL game. Add to the above, from the same speech, Trump’s complaining that the sport is being “ruined” by controls on hard hits. Hey, those guys get paid a fortune; what’s a few more brain injuries, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11387 "2017-09-23T19:27:31Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Talk about the gift that keeps on giving. Just when I get to thinking Trump couldn’t possibly be more of a flaming asshole, he immediately proves me wrong. > > The day that happens is the last day I ever watch an NFL game. > > Add to the above, from the same speech, Trump’s complaining that the sport is being “ruined” by controls on hard hits. Hey, those guys get paid a fortune; what’s a few more brain injuries, amirite? Couple more concussions, and the players will be at his intellectual and emotional levels. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11388 "2017-09-23T19:57:44Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Kind of. His sole business technique seems to be fuck over everyone else and get away with it because he started with more money. Unlike truly talented entrepreneurs, if he had started with nothing he’d still have nothing. So far as I can tell, all of his business success is predicated on leveraging the advantage of starting with money. You can call that shrewd and successful if you like, I guess, but if I were hiring someone to take my start-up into the big leagues Trump would be a long, long, long, long way down on my list. Elon Musk is a shrewd and successful businessman. Donald Trump is a bully with lots of available capital. > > Well, average criminals tend to be no prizes in the intellect department, so sure. I find it hard to judge Trump’s raw intelligence because of his astonishing level of general ignorance. While it’s possible to be intelligent and still ignorant, the extent of Trump’s ignorance is such that I’m not sure it’s really worth hanging on the distinction. Trump makes bad decisions based on holding simplistic, naive, and incorrect beliefs, and he is extremely resistant to altering those simplistic, naive, and incorrect beliefs when presented with new information. That isn’t the behaviour of an intelligent man even if he’d hypothetically score highly on an IQ test. > > Pointing to an instance where he extemporaneously covers a stumble in speaking as evidence of intelligence would be a lot more convincing if his general speaking style weren’t so horrible. While everyone’s grammar suffers in extemporaneous speech, Trump’s vocabulary, sentence structure, and constant disjointed rambling asides do not point to any significant intellect whatsoever. I think [_Cracked_](http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-stupidest-people-planet-are-all-donald-trump/) explained Trump’s level of intellect rather well. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11389 "2017-09-23T20:00:08Z")
SCENE: Presidential staff meeting room ButtMunch: Okay guys to sum up the situation, Repeal is circling the drain, Tax reform is going to follow it, There won’t be a wall, DACA will be reinstated in some form, _She_ won’t be locked up, Muller’s noose is tightening etc. And somehow he even managed to look like a bloviating idiot compared to Kim! Even the morons who make up his base have got be close to figuring out tha the is just an incompetant, easily manipulated pawn for the swamp denizen’s he swore to be against. DouscheNozzle: We got to stick with plan A, the best way to stop 5 year olds - and people with the brains of 5-year-olds- from throwing tantrums is distraction. They have very little inclination to, or practice with thinking anything through unless absolutely forced to, give them another turd to play with. TaintLick: But how much more is there in that well? We have had to go there every two weeks since November, it has to be damn near dry by now. ButtMunch: Particularly something left that gives those fools the opportunity to be satisfy their hateful little hearts, but a door to look plausible in denying it at the same time, that’s our wheelhouse. … [Pause for head-scratching] … ScroteWart: I got it! Right before the next speech I’ll get him all worked up about football players kneeling. And he’ll think it was a spontaneous idea of his own to preach on. The sheep can jump on the bandwagon and scream their racist hearts out, while pretending it really is about patriotism. 7 Days from it at least. ButtMunch: Perfect! A Bottle of highest shelf Scotch for ScroteWart. [Curtain closes] ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11390 "2017-09-23T20:22:16Z")
Bravo. Author! Author! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11391 "2017-09-23T20:31:44Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Fred snuffed it in '99 – I think STFU-Donny was already a national nuisance at the time, albeit more a of local problem and blorter of noises. The great city of New York has been dealing with this shitstain on the good linens since the late 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11392 "2017-09-23T20:55:05Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > … Pointing to an instance where he extemporaneously covers a stumble in speaking as evidence of intelligence would be a lot more convincing if his general speaking style weren’t so horrible. While everyone’s grammar suffers in extemporaneous speech, Trump’s vocabulary, sentence structure, and constant disjointed rambling asides do not point to any significant intellect whatsoever. Yes. The ‘keep talking after flubbing a word’ isn’t remotely impressive, because his improvisations never make any sense. It’s nothing but a demonstration of his ego (and perhaps of his limited ability to read). An emotionally-healthy person would simply correct themselves: “What standard, excuse me, _stranded_ sailor…” Trump can\*not \*admit he’s screwed up, even though it’s perfectly clear to any listener that he has. > [@SteveG1](#): > > …He leverages with other people’s money. He constantly makes bad decisions (bad for everyone around him). He is rich because he was born rich. If he didn’t have that silver spoon, he’d be “that guy who got fired for being stupid” or “that guy who got fired for being lazy” or simply “that asshole we couldn’t get rid of fast enough”. > In fact it’s been said, **if he put all his money in the bank, collected the interest, and left it alone, he’d have more than he does now.** … Don’t forget that a substantial portion of what assets he _does_ have now, came to him via “loans” and inflated-prices-paid-on-real-estate from associates of Vladimir Putin. Absent those gifts, Trump would be _very much worse off_ than a hypothetical person who put the same amount in a savings account back when Trump got his millions from his father. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11393 "2017-09-24T02:19:48Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Talk about the gift that keeps on giving. Just when I get to thinking Trump couldn’t possibly be more of a flaming asshole, he immediately proves me wrong. > > The day that happens is the last day I ever watch an NFL game. > > Add to the above, from the same speech, Trump’s complaining that the sport is being “ruined” by controls on hard hits. Hey, those guys get paid a fortune; what’s a few more brain injuries, amirite? It’s not like black people can actually feel pain. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11394 "2017-09-24T02:34:51Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Finally! Someone agrees with me. Oh, no, I don’t think Trump is \*smart \*smart. I think this is more like people with OCD ( like myself ) who can become very quick and clever in hiding their own quirks, regardless of the intellect they show in other instances. Trump may have had the brains to start with, but no-one is more stupid than a willfully ignorant person who lets his good brains go. Also: > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I would rehearse. Well, you’re obviously smarter than Trump ( and probably would be a better President ). I mean who the heck doesn’t learn to rehearse after so many flubs, no matter how well they’re hidden ( and these even aren’t even nearly perfect ). One day he’s going to blunder the way that can’t be recovered - like with words count, fuchsia or something - what there is to do after that ? And it’s a pretty big warning sign if a boss can’t admit a simple mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11395 "2017-09-24T02:42:20Z")
The Warriors said they’re going to visit Washington anyway. And the mayor tweeted them a welcome, and told them to tell anybody that she had invited them. > ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11396 "2017-09-24T03:02:37Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > > > I would rehearse. > > Well, you’re obviously smarter than Trump ( and probably would be a better President ). I mean who the heck doesn’t learn to rehearse after so many flubs … Remember ‘08 at all? That one guy running for president, whenever he would speak without a script, every freakin’ pause was filled with “um” or “uh”. Later, when he actually became president, he had someone clip um-sensing electrodes to his testicles, and eventually he became much easier to listen to. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11397 "2017-09-24T03:32:36Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Remember ‘08 at all? That one guy running for president, whenever he would speak without a script, every freakin’ pause was filled with “um” or “uh”. Later, when he actually became president, he had someone clip um-sensing electrodes to his testicles, and eventually he became much easier to listen to. Show of hands: who would like electrodes to be clipped to Trump’s testicles (when he’s speaking and when he’s not)? \<_ThelmaLou raises hand_\> The only question is what voltage. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11398 "2017-09-24T03:35:27Z")
Waiting for the electrician, or someone like him. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11399 "2017-09-24T03:50:16Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Waiting for the electrician, or someone like him. Don’t crush that dwarf; hand me the pliers. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11400 "2017-09-24T04:18:42Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Don’t crush that dwarf; hand me the pliers. Appropriate to this thread, because we are indeed all bozos… and stuck on the same bus. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11401 "2017-09-24T05:21:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Warriors said they’re going to visit Washington anyway. And the mayor tweeted them a welcome, and told them to tell anybody that she had invited them. > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/911728874735771650/photo/1) I hear there’s a big basketball fan that lives in DC. I’m thinking a BBQ at the Obama’s sounds like a dream come true. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11402 "2017-09-24T05:40:02Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > I mean who the heck doesn’t learn to rehearse after so many flubs, no matter how well they’re hidden ( and these even aren’t even nearly perfect ). One day he’s going to blunder the way that can’t be recovered - like with words count, fuchsia or something - what there is to do after that ? Nothing. He does it all the time, and nobody cares. Here’s a [recent sample](https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/09/06/remarks-president-trump-tax-reform): "North Dakota is an inspiring example of the amazing things that are possible when we unleash the genius of American innovators, unite the red tape, and I’ll tell you – and we have to unite everything. And all that red tape becomes beautiful when you get rid of it. And we’re getting rid of – are we getting rid of a lot of red tape, by the way? (Applause.) " This was played on several late night comedy shows, because it’s totally incoherent. And nobody but the late night comedians cared. When you’re reading it, rather than listening to it, you can see that his script must have said to “untie the red tape,” which he misread as “unite.” And made the lamest recovery ever. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11403 "2017-09-24T06:41:20Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > O I mean who the heck doesn’t learn to rehearse after so many flubs, no matter how well they’re hidden ( and these even aren’t even nearly perfect ). One day he’s going to blunder the way that can’t be recovered - like with words count, fuchsia or something - what there is to do after that ? > And it’s a pretty big warning sign if a boss can’t admit a simple mistake. That’s the key. Occupy White House himself is incapable of believing that he is at fault for anything, that he has ever made a mistake. Those bankruptcies? Other people’s fault. Those divorces? Ex-sposes’ fault. Unconstitutional orders blocked? Damn liberals’ and “fake new” outfits’ fault. > [@TonySinclair](#): > > Nothing. He does it all the time, and nobody cares. {snip} > [@](#): > > This was played on several late night comedy shows, because it’s totally incoherent. And nobody but the late night comedians cared. When you’re reading it, rather than listening to it, you can see that his script must have said to “untie the red tape,” which he misread as “unite.” And made the lamest recovery ever. His supporters either don’t know he’s incoherent or they simply don’t care because the son of a bitch shares their bogoted ideas. Could be both. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=569) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=571)