# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11524 "2017-09-26T22:44:46Z")

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Hey, for him, anything he has to pay attention to for more than a few minutes without seeing his name is tough stuff.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11525 "2017-09-26T22:49:29Z")

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Homeland Security is planning on monitoring the social media accounts of all immigrants beginning October 18, _ **including naturalized citizens** _.  
This has to be unconstitutional, especially if they’re only going to monitor naturalized citizens and not native-born citizens.

> **[People Are Worried About DHS Plans To Gather Social Media Info](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/people-are-worried-about-dhs-plans-to-gather-social-media)**
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> "There's a growing trend at the Department of Homeland Security to be snooping on the social media of immigrants."

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11526 "2017-09-26T22:52:28Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The biggest ocean! A _tremendous_ ocean!
> 
> Seriously, I think he just found out today that Puerto Rico is an island in an ocean, because [he repeated his new fun fact a few hours later;](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/internet-appalled-as-trump-blames-this-thing-called-the-atlantic-for-bungled-puerto-rico-response/)
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> Nobody knew oceans could be so complicated!

Did you know there’s seven of 'em? One for each day of the week. Except for leap-weeks.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11527 "2017-09-26T22:58:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “This is a thing called the Atlantic Ocean. This is tough stuff,” President Trump stated in a Rose Garden press conference with Prime Minister of Spain Mariano Rajoy.

Alright Kelly, we know you’re tired. We understand how hard it is to watch someone that …“special” all of the time. But we really need your “A” game in front of the other countries. Maybe a squeaky toy when you see the glimmer of stupid form in his eye? Something?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11528 "2017-09-26T22:59:30Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Alright Kelly, we know you’re tired. We understand how hard it is to watch someone that …“special” all of the time. But we really need your “A” game in front of the other countries. Maybe a squeaky toy when you see the glimmer of stupid form in his eye? Something?

He also managed to call the Prime Minister of Spain the “President” at their joint press conference today.

Dotard is a good description.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11529 "2017-09-26T23:11:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He also managed to call the Prime Minister of Spain the “President” at their joint press conference today.

To be fair, he probably thinks a “Prime Minister” has something to do with Amazon.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11530 "2017-09-26T23:17:24Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> The Orange One is ignoring the whole Puerto Rican situation, and I think I know why.
> 
> They don’t elect the president.

Well…

To steal a phrase from the Shit Stain himself, “people are saying” :

It’s all about a certain golf course of his in Puerto Rico that (surprise!) went bankrupt.  
Puerto Rico is the site of yet another Trump business failure.

When the Trump International Golf Club in Rio Grande, Puerto Rico, filed for bankruptcy in July 2015 — just a month after Donald Trump launched his presidential campaign — Trump’s family did everything they could to distance themselves from the failed project. “This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. This is a separate owner. We purely manage the golf course.” - Eric Trump

Besides, there’s brown people there, not “real” Murricans.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11531 "2017-09-26T23:22:31Z")

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Acting DEA chief to resign. He hasn’t made a comment, but anonymous people are saying that Rosenberg had become “convinced that President Trump had little respect for the law.”

> **[Acting DEA Chief Chuck Rosenberg Plans To Resign](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dea-chuck-rosenberg_n_59cac636e4b053a9c2f4db7c)**
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> Rosenberg was a holdover from the Obama administration.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11532 "2017-09-26T23:24:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The biggest ocean! A _tremendous_ ocean!
> 
> Seriously, I think he just found out today that Puerto Rico is an island in an ocean, because [he repeated his new fun fact a few hours later;](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/internet-appalled-as-trump-blames-this-thing-called-the-atlantic-for-bungled-puerto-rico-response/)
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> Nobody knew oceans could be so complicated!

Health care is complicated; Lincoln was a republican; Puerto Rico is an island…every day there’s something new to learn!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11533 "2017-09-26T23:27:56Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Health care is complicated; Lincoln was a republican; Puerto Rico is an island…every day there’s something new to learn!

and oceans are big.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11534 "2017-09-26T23:30:15Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump on delivering aid to Puerto Rico: “This is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. It’s a big ocean, it’s a very big ocean.”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/912709793873256448)

Takes me back, it does…

> [@Dan Quayle](#):
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> Hawaii has always been a very pivotal role in the Pacific. It is in the Pacific. It is a part of the United States that is an island that is right here…

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11535 "2017-09-26T23:30:23Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Well…
> 
> To steal a phrase from the Shit Stain himself, “people are saying” :
> 
> It’s all about a certain golf course of his in Puerto Rico that (surprise!) went bankrupt.  
> Puerto Rico is the site of yet another Trump business failure.
> 
> When the Trump International Golf Club in Rio Grande, Puerto Rico, filed for bankruptcy in July 2015 — just a month after Donald Trump launched his presidential campaign — Trump’s family did everything they could to distance themselves from the failed project. “This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. This is a separate owner. We purely manage the golf course.” - Eric Trump
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> Besides, there’s brown people there, not “real” Murricans.

Almost forgot… this little scam cost Puerto Rico about 33 MILLION dollars. But I bet the Shit Gibbon had already taken his cut.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11536 "2017-09-26T23:30:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Homeland Security is planning on monitoring the social media accounts of all immigrants beginning October 18, _ **including naturalized citizens** _.  
> This has to be unconstitutional, especially if they’re only going to monitor naturalized citizens and not native-born citizens.  
> [People Are Worried About DHS Plans To Gather Social Media Info](https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/people-are-worried-about-dhs-plans-to-gather-social-media?utm_term=.gaAaEbP3B#.mpR2YMdVb)

Isn’t posting something to Twitter the equivalent of making it public?  
Err, I mean actually making it public.

I don’t think it’s illegal to read publicly available information.  
Even if they only read the tweets of some people and not all people.

It doesn’t seem like reading Twitter is un-Constitutional.  
Un-healthy and un-pleasant, and a list of uns, but no un-Constitutional.

Is it?

Law is not always intuitive.  
So maybe I am wrong.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11537 "2017-09-26T23:32:44Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> Isn’t posting something to Twitter the equivalent of making it public?  
> Err, I mean actually making it public.
> 
> I don’t think it’s illegal to read publicly available information.  
> Even if they only read the tweets of some people and not all people.
> 
> It doesn’t seem like reading Twitter is un-Constitutional.  
> Un-healthy and un-pleasant, and a list of uns, but no un-Constitutional.
> 
> Is it?
> 
> Law is not always intuitive.  
> So maybe I am wrong.

It depends on who is watching, why they are watching, and most importantly, what they are doing with the information. If Jeff Sessions is involved in any way, assume the worst.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11538 "2017-09-26T23:40:32Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Acting DEA chief to resign. He hasn’t made a comment, but anonymous people are saying that Rosenberg had become “convinced that President Trump had little respect for the law.”

And it took him \*how \*long to twig on that?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11539 "2017-09-26T23:55:15Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And it took him \*how \*long to twig on that?

As has been speculated with Kelly and McMaster, maybe he saw his duty as preventing Trump and cronies from running wild.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11540 "2017-09-27T04:48:26Z")

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Following today’s Alabama Senate primary, when Bannon-supported Moore defeated Trump-supported Strange, Trump has deleted his tweets supporting Strange.

> **[Trump deletes pro-Luther Strange tweets](https://www.al.com/news/2017/09/trump_deletes_pro-luther_stran.html)**
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> Trump deletes pro-Luther Strange tweets

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11541 "2017-09-27T04:59:06Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Introducing a baseball metaphor into a football topic, Trevor Noah really hit one out of the park last night: [When Is the Right Time for Black People to Protest?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Gx23vH0CE) (Youtube)

One needs to watch the entire episode. Trust me, the close is worth it…😃

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11542 "2017-09-27T05:15:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Following today’s Alabama Senate primary, when Bannon-supported Moore defeated Trump-supported Strange, Trump has deleted his tweets supporting Strange.  
> [Trump deletes pro-Luther Strange tweets - al.com](http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/trump_deletes_pro-luther_stran.html)

Well, of course he can’t let people see him endorsing someone who didn’t win. People might start thinking he’s a **LOSER**.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11543 "2017-09-27T08:18:31Z")

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We should invade Puerto Rico. There will be no resistance, we will be treated like liberators. If they ever had weapons of mass destruction, they are buried under the rubble!. Bonus! Nation building opportunities! They are already citizens!

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