# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 579
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11564 "2017-09-27T16:31:41Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > You would think so. > "We ran this outfit into the ground but it’s someone else’s fault (because reasons?). “It’s not my fault the car crashed, I was only hired to drive it.” ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11565 "2017-09-27T17:01:40Z")
Jared is registered to vote as a female, for some reason: > **[Elections board: Our error Kushner listed as female | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/jared-kushner-voter-registration-female/index.html)** > > The New York State Board of Elections acknowledged in a news report published Thursday that President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, registered to vote as a male despite being listed as a woman previously. VOTER FRAUD!!! Right here Kobach! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11566 "2017-09-27T17:08:10Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Or he could use his powers as Commander in Chief to distract us with a national emergency (North Korea, perhaps) that would give him a lot more real power. Bannon’s desire to elevate the profile of White Christian Nationalism just got an important victory last night, and it puts the pressure on Trump to pay attention to his strongest base of support. > > Trump cannot survive through moderation and expanding his appeal to moderates; he can only continue to exist as an extremist. **That is what got him power in the first place.** He cannot win with adapting to constitutional and institutional norms that are expected of the usual occupier of that high office, that no man is greater than the Constitution, no man is higher than the law. Robert Mueller’s investigation exemplifies how these norms operate. Trump is endangered by such norms. He can only survive if he eliminates renders the Constitution and the institutions that support it impotent. > > If it were just Trump we had to worry about, there wouldn’t be a need to worry. But there are a lot of other extremists in this country who also carry with them a sense of urgency. They sense a window of opportunity through which they can exit the present and go back to the country’s racist and socially inequitable past. Extremists seek out other extremists because they need each other. That’s where we’re at now. I bolded the point you made with which I disagree. In my opinion, it wasn’t Trump’s base that elected him. It was moderate Republicans, barely-Democrats and independent voters who couldn’t quite bring themselves to vote for Hillary, many of them swayed by Russian propaganda that came at them like a fire hose through social media, that voted for him together with Trump’s base. The base alone wasn’t enough and won’t be enough in the future. There’s now a backlash against Trump and his governance as we’re seeing played out in special elections around the country. Dems are making inroads in places that are deeply red, even in places where Trump won by more than 20 points, much to the consternation of Republican strategists. Dems who have been apathetic about voting in the past several years are no longer unaware of what is happening, and they are getting involved in a big way. I don’t expect the same mistakes to be made in 2018 as were made in 2016. It’s not just Trumpian extremists who feel a sense of urgency. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11567 "2017-09-27T20:35:10Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > Jared is registered to vote as a female, for some reason: > > [http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/jared-kushner-voter-registration-female/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/jared-kushner-voter-registration-female/index.html) > > VOTER FRAUD!!! Right here Kobach! Andy Boriwitz says Trump has cut Jared’s pay by 30%… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11568 "2017-09-27T20:38:37Z")
And expects him to wear 6-inch heels when in the Royal Presence. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11569 "2017-09-27T20:51:34Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > And expects him to wear 6-inch heels when in the Royal Presence. [Like this?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBKu9OJ8Ltk) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11570 "2017-09-27T21:44:06Z")
No one can wear heels like that. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11571 "2017-09-27T22:43:32Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Dear America, > > Can you please remove Trump from office now? It isn’t funny anymore. Thanks! > > Sincerely, > The World (except maybe Kim Jong Un and Putin) I assure you, the majority of the country would love to. I think we need some sort of No Confidence mechanism, like other countries have. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11572 "2017-09-27T22:50:44Z")
About Trump’s bullshit about the NFL, and how they supposedly dishonor the flag and the soldiers and Captain America and apple pie etc etc… Genera Michael Hayden, a former CIA and NSA chief (and former general) says: “There were tough choices to make: respect for the flag, respect for the anthem, respect for your teammates, respect for justice, respect for your fans, respect for free speech. The president had created what logicians call a false dilemma, that support for free speech or for teammates equated to disrespect for flag, anthem or country. And he did it for political advantage.” “As a 39-year military veteran, I think I know something about the flag, the anthem, patriotism, and I think I know why we fight. It’s not to allow the president to divide us by wrapping himself in the national banner. I never imagined myself saying this before Friday, but if now forced to choose in this dispute, put me down with Kaepernick.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11573 "2017-09-27T23:13:10Z")
[Trump blames shipping companies](http://nypost.com/2017/09/27/trump-says-shipping-industry-opposed-to-waiver-for-puerto-rico/) for his inability to lift the Jones Act. > [@](#): > > President Trump says he’s reluctant to lift shipping restrictions to get more aid to hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico — because mariners don’t want him to. > > “We’re thinking about that,” Trump said Wednesday when asked about lifting the Jones Act, which prohibits foreign ships from moving goods between US ports. > > “But we have a lot of shippers and a lot of people that work in the shipping industry that don’t want the Jones Act lifted, and we have a lot of ships out there right now.” Such a [del]tower of moral fiber[/del] pile of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11574 "2017-09-27T23:26:20Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I assure you, the majority of the country would love to. > > I think we need some sort of No Confidence mechanism, like other countries have. We do: [Article 25, Section 4](http://www.americasfreedom.com/us-constitution/article25.html). What we lack is a VP and cabinet who have enough spine and[del]/or[/del] loyalty to the Constitution and ideals of the US to invoke it. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11575 "2017-09-27T23:55:04Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > Jared is registered to vote as a female, for some reason: Kushner just feels so much _prettier_ when he votes like a girl. I can totally get behind that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11576 "2017-09-28T01:11:33Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Health care is complicated; Lincoln was a republican; Puerto Rico is an island…every day there’s something new to learn! > [@SteveG1](#): > > and oceans are big. And wet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11577 "2017-09-28T01:13:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > And wet. And deep. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11578 "2017-09-28T02:16:53Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Kushner just feels so much _prettier_ when he votes like a girl. I can totally get behind that. You know that if Kushner were a Democrat, the alt-right Alex Jones crowd would be claiming that this is proof that he’s a transgender double agent working for the Deep State. Or a lizard or something. …wait, The alt-right hates JK. I’m off to check Breitbart and InfoWars! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11579 "2017-09-28T02:38:18Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > Jared is registered to vote as a female, for some reason: > > [http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/jared-kushner-voter-registration-female/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/jared-kushner-voter-registration-female/index.html) > > VOTER FRAUD!!! Right here Kobach! Lock her up! Lock her up! ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11580 "2017-09-28T03:28:56Z")
Trump doesn’t care about Jared’s gender identification _(Just as long as [s]he doesn’t try to join the military!)_ ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11581 "2017-09-28T03:35:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Lock her up! Lock her up! Okay, now THAT was funny. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > I don’t expect the same mistakes to be made in 2018 as were made in 2016. I do. The Democrats will go through their own version of the GOP Civil War (but without actually waiting to win to do it). ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11582 "2017-09-28T04:55:18Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > [Like this?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBKu9OJ8Ltk) Gee, thanks. Now I’m going to go to bed and try to sleep with THAT in my mind’s eye. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11583 "2017-09-28T14:24:34Z")
Old news, but I don’t recall this being discussed here last June (and googling the SDMB on this subject came up with nothing), so, this stone should definitely not be left unturned: Systemic racism has been advanced by this WH administration with the nixing of a $400,000 grant to Life After Hate, a group for rehab’ing former neo-nazis and white supremacists. This is a good [profile](http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/08/30/life-after-hate-white-supremacy) on founder Christaiin Picciolini. > [@](#): > > “…a lot of the rhetoric and policy that’s coming out of this administration mimics a lot of what we [as former white nationalists] used to say 30 years ago. It’s very anti-immigrant, it’s xenophobic, it’s bigoted, and certainly the white nationalists and the alt-right and the white supremacists, right now, are rejoicing over the fact that it appears the administration is supporting their efforts, based on, not necessarily what they say, but what they don’t say.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=578) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=580)