# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1141 "2017-02-09T20:51:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What part of she went on Fox News to tout Ivanka’s products was wrong? That’s not what the article you linked to was about. [Try this one.](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/09/514317345/kellyanne-conway-tells-americans-to-buy-ivanka-trumps-products) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1142 "2017-02-09T20:56:21Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Kellyanne Conway went on Fox News today to tell us to go buy Ivanka’s products.](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38925753?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook) > [@running coach](#): > > The actual content doesn’t match your “headline”. It’s easy to be taken aback. I’m used to cite descriptions being somewhat sarcastically overstated too, so I was expecting that link to talk about how Conway had actually said something like “there’s nothing wrong with Trump supporting his daughter’s business endeavors on Twitter”. But [holy shit](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38925753?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook). > [@](#): > > Ethical rules for White House employees prevent them giving an “endorsement of any product, service or enterprise”. […] > > White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Ms Conway had been given advice after her remarks on Fox News, which she made in an interview from the White House briefing room. > > “Go buy Ivanka’s stuff,” Ms Conway said. “I’m going to go get some myself today. I’m going to give a free commercial here: Go buy it today, everybody.” > [@running coach](#): > > That’s not what the article you linked to was about. Yes, it was. It initially discussed the negative reaction to Conway’s pitch for Ivankaware, but Conway’s pitch itself was there too, in all its barefaced “glory”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1143 "2017-02-09T21:07:00Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Do you even read the articles you post? > > Actual headline: [Trump aide Kellyanne Conway ‘wrong’ over Ivanka plug](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38925753?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook) > The actual content doesn’t match your “headline”. > The real question is why does the White House notify the ethics office? > Why won’t the (Dis)Honorable Asshole Chaffetz do it? I’m sure he did read. He posted “Kellyanne Conway went on Fox News today to tell us to go buy Ivanka’s products.” This is what happened. You are also correct. In more detail, after she went on Fox news to promote Ivanka’s products, politicians from both sides of the house were pissed off. (as they should be). As to your last questions, "why does the White House notify the ethics office? Why won’t the (Dis)Honorable Asshole Chaffetz do it? " 1. Because the white house is currently in possession of a family who does not give two shits about ethics, and in fact probably does not know the meaning of the word. 2. Because Chaffetz is a scummy dishonorable asshole, who puts Trump before party, and party before country. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1144 "2017-02-09T21:13:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That’s not what the article you linked to was about. > > [Try this one.](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/09/514317345/kellyanne-conway-tells-americans-to-buy-ivanka-trumps-products) You obviously didn’t read my link. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1145 "2017-02-09T21:21:53Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That’s not what the article you linked to was about. > > [Try this one.](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/09/514317345/kellyanne-conway-tells-americans-to-buy-ivanka-trumps-products) …yes it was. You are just being unnecessarily nitpicky. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1146 "2017-02-09T21:44:20Z")
[The guy responsible for making sure that Trump uses secure devices has either been fired, or asked to resign.](http://gizmodo.com/the-guy-who-makes-sure-trump-doesnt-get-hacked-no-longe-1792187991) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1147 "2017-02-09T21:53:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [The guy responsible for making sure that Trump uses secure devices has either been fired, or asked to resign.](http://gizmodo.com/the-guy-who-makes-sure-trump-doesnt-get-hacked-no-longe-1792187991) I wonder if Putin ordered him fired… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1148 "2017-02-09T22:24:22Z")
Dolt 45 [shares his thoughts](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-criticize-faa-234849) on the FAA: > [@](#): > > “I hear we have the wrong system. … And is the gentleman who’s the head of the FAA right now not a pilot?" Trump asked the executives. “I’d like to find out because I think it maybe would be good to have a pilot — like a really good pilot that knows what’s going on. … I would think you need a very sophisticated person in that job.” Yeah, because we all know about the high standards of knowledge and expertise you demand from your department heads… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1149 "2017-02-09T23:14:05Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Dolt 45 [shares his thoughts](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-criticize-faa-234849) on the FAA: > > Yeah, because we all know about the high standards of knowledge and expertise you demand from your department heads… :rolleyes: OK. So we shouldn’t have a politician heading the country, we shouldn’t have an educator heading the department of education, we shouldn’t have A Secretary of Energy who can remember the name of the department - but damnit, there needs to be a pilot leading the FAA? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1150 "2017-02-10T04:05:45Z")
I thought about making a GD thread for this one but I’m not really sure if there’s much of a debate. I’m not sure how much traction this will get, probably not much. I think this is an attempt to hang the albatross that is Trump/Bannon on the GOP for 2018. The GOP votes this down and as it becomes clearer that Trump has severe conflicts of interests and ethics issues they’ll be able to point back to this vote. > **[Democrat moves to force House debate on Trump’s alleged business conflicts...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/09/democrat-moves-to-force-house-debate-on-trumps-alleged-business-conflicts-and-russia-ties/?postshare=301486672333325&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.4228fd4116b9)** > > Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) filed a “resolution of inquiry,” a tactic used to force presidents and executive-branch agencies to share records with Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1151 "2017-02-10T04:13:38Z")
Woo Hoo! King Donald the Shithead just found out maybe he’s not such an absolute monarch after all. The emperor is wearing no clothes. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1152 "2017-02-10T04:23:14Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Woo Hoo! King Donald the Shithead just found out maybe he’s not such an absolute monarch after all. **The emperor is wearing no clothes.** _gouges out eyes_ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1153 "2017-02-10T05:40:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > _gouges out eyes_ My very thought. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1154 "2017-02-10T06:09:11Z")
Don’t like Trump’s picks? Fill your own ‘Shadow Cabinet’ [at the SF Chron](http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Don-t-like-Trump-s-picks-Fill-your-own-10915421.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result). ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1155 "2017-02-10T08:14:24Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The confirmation of Betsy DeVos is enough to demonstrate that the fifty Republican Senators who voted for her are not patriots. No, not even John McCain, who talks a good game about doing the right thing but cheerily confirmed a woman he knows damn well bribed her way into the Cabinet of his country. Why are you surprised? I can’t think of anything to admire about McCain since he got back from Nam. He thinks war is the answer to everything, he did his best to make Sarah Palin VP, and he kept spouting total crap about Benghazi long after it was proven false. The best thing you can say about him is that he’s not as bad as Cruz or Trump. Which is also the best thing you can say about slime mold. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1156 "2017-02-10T16:48:42Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > I thought about making a GD thread for this one but I’m not really sure if there’s much of a debate. I’m not sure how much traction this will get, probably not much. I think this is an attempt to hang the albatross that is Trump/Bannon on the GOP for 2018. The GOP votes this down and as it becomes clearer that Trump has severe conflicts of interests and ethics issues they’ll be able to point back to this vote. If the GOP votes this down, which of course they will, it’ll be forgotten in a week. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1157 "2017-02-10T17:15:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The Snowflake-In-Chief thinks the handtowels [are not soft enough.](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/president-trump-files-complaint-hand-112600704.html) They also were too big for his tiny little hands. But there are other more important things. Trump lost in court. He LOST. He is a LOSER. LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER That was fun 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1158 "2017-02-10T17:16:33Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Why are you surprised? I can’t think of anything to admire about McCain since he got back from Nam. He thinks war is the answer to everything, he did his best to make Sarah Palin VP, and he kept spouting total crap about Benghazi long after it was proven false. The best thing you can say about him is that he’s not as bad as Cruz or Trump. Which is also the best thing you can say about slime mold. That’s like a trial lawyer saying “But your honor, he only killed a few people” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1159 "2017-02-10T18:03:37Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > They also were too big for his tiny little hands. > > But there are other more important things. Trump lost in court. He LOST. > > He is a LOSER. LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER > > That was fun 😃 With hands that tiny he needs 500 thread count or more. Unfair, sad. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1160 "2017-02-10T18:28:16Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If the GOP votes this down, which of course they will, it’ll be forgotten in a week. Yes, but then it will re-surface at election time. We see this all the time in the political ads. I can see it now “So-and-so voted against Trump revealing his conflicts of interests”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=59)