# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 582
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11624 "2017-09-29T14:30:16Z")
[quote=“Rick\_Kitchen, post:11606, topic:774070”] White Dallas sports anchor Dale Hansen takes on Trump over the anthem. This is an absolute joy to watch. [/QUOTE] Thank you for that link. That was a great video. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11625 "2017-09-29T15:29:24Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Not off the top of my head, but I’ll give it some thought. > > Crowing about the “sweet, sweet conservative tears” can only serve to antagonize. Once the knife is in, why twist it? But sweet sweet librul tears and all the associated bullshit “you” assholes spew is A-OK. Get as antagonized as you please, SNOWFLAKE. What happened to “I’m no PC and I say what I want”, SNOWFLAKE? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11626 "2017-09-29T16:39:35Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Crowing about the “sweet, sweet conservative tears” can only serve to antagonize. Once the knife is in, why twist it? To make it bleed faster, DUH! ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11627 "2017-09-29T18:07:23Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Once the knife is in, why twist it? > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > To make it bleed faster, DUH! That’s kind of what I was thinking about this analogy. By the time I reach the point that I have decided to put a blade inside of a person, I am firmly committed to to my goal of ending that life. Maybe different analogy woulda been better. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11628 "2017-09-29T18:23:43Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > But sweet sweet librul tears and all the associated bullshit “you” assholes spew is A-OK. > > Get as antagonized as you please, SNOWFLAKE. > > What happened to “I’m no PC and I say what I want”, SNOWFLAKE? I don’t think Robot Arm was feeling antagonized. Sure, he might be NOW. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11629 "2017-09-29T18:47:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Reading from his teleprompter, Trump began by sending “our thoughts and prayers to the people of Puerto Rico, who have been struck by storms of historic and catastrophic severity.” But then he strayed from his script: > “The response and recovery effort probably has never been seen for something like this. This is an island surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.” All I can think of is Zero Mostel voicing the seagull Keehar in the movie of Richard Adams’ _Watership Down_ crying, as he flies away near the end: “Beeeeeeg Waterrrrrrr!” > **[Trump: Puerto Rico is 'an island surrounded by ... big water'](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-puerto-rico-island-surrounded-big-water-msna1024996)** > > Puerto Rico, Donald Trump said this morning, is "an island surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water." ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11630 "2017-09-29T18:56:51Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > That’s kind of what I was thinking about this analogy. > > By the time I reach the point that I have decided to put a blade inside of a person, I am firmly committed to to my goal of ending that life. > > Maybe different analogy woulda been better. Please tell me you are not a surgeon. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11631 "2017-09-29T19:33:42Z")
And now the Secretary of Veterans Affairs comes under scrutiny for using taxpayer funds for personal use. A ten day trip to Europe on the taxpayers’ dime. > **[VA chief and wife had a lovely taxpayer-funded trip to Europe: Wimbledon,...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/29/1702736/-VA-chief-and-wife-had-a-lovely-taxpayer-funded-trip-to-Europe-Wimbledon-river-cruise-sightseeing?detail=facebook)** > > Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin is about to take his turn in the spotlight after revelations he and his staff, along with some of their spouses, enjoyed a 10-day European vacation, entirely funded by us hardworking taxpayers. ... ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11632 "2017-09-29T19:39:55Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > As I understand it, the FM chips aren’t even hooked up to anything. Their presence is a side effect of using commodity parts. A software update wouldn’t be able to do anything. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Huh. That is interesting. Here is some good [detail](https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/28/whose-fcc-is-this/) on the issue. > [@](#): > > Apple has actually not had workable FM radios in iPhones in a very, very long time. Much further back than the iPhone 7. Even when the FM modules were included in the chip, they were not connected, had no antennas and no support was built in to other radio components. Basically, Apple can’t switch on the FM radio in the iPhone 7, iPhone 8 and iPhone X because they don’t exist. And it can’t switch on many older FM radio chips because the iPhone’s hardware simply does not support it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11633 "2017-09-29T19:41:06Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Best use of a gif ever: [https://www.axios.com/vitals-2490727570.html](https://www.axios.com/vitals-2490727570.html) That’s pretty funny, for sure. 😃 I wonder what it means when Two Scoops telegraphs his punch as he is doing right now, saying he will “make a decision” about Price tonight? Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease… I’ve probably just jinxed it. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11634 "2017-09-29T19:41:14Z")
Tweeto just got on TV and said he would decide the fate of Tom Price tonight. But he also called him “a fine person”. So I guess he’ll be fired, that seems to be the Trump death kiss. And he seems confused on Puerto Rico, he said -I swear this is close to a direct quote “Things are going really well there, total devastation”. And because he’s such a great negotiator and saves us soooooo much money, he really doesn’t like it when we question things like air travel. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11635 "2017-09-29T19:43:34Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > But sweet sweet librul tears and all the associated bullshit “you” assholes spew is A-OK. > > Get as antagonized as you please, SNOWFLAKE. > > What happened to “I’m no PC and I say what I want”, SNOWFLAKE? > [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t think Robot Arm was feeling antagonized. Sure, he might be NOW. Not in the slightest. I made it very clear in post #11594 that I find this attitude problematic no matter who is doing it. That SteveG1 now needs to cast me on a particular side, and into a particular role, just shows that he wasn’t paying attention. The knife analogy wasn’t perfect, but I was responding to SaneBill’s challenge that liberals only take joy in conservative’s sadness (anger, frustration) as a side effect of their wise governance, not as a primary motivation. So what if they do? If you’ve passed a bill, or gotten someone elected, you can be happy with that accomplishment without adding “hooray, conservatives can suck it!” It doesn’t help to kick someone when they’re down. Yes, even if they kicked you when you were down. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11636 "2017-09-29T20:32:01Z")
I was hearing a lengthy Dutch video from across the room detailing the Orange Shitgibbon’s ties to organized crime. He, of course, denies any knowledge of the villains involved, but there seems to be considerable evidence (according to the video) that he is being dishonest about his ignorance of these people. It gets quite ugly. If you can run it in the background whilst going about your business, it might be worth listening to, though the narrator has a rather unpleasant, almost _Loose Change_y delivery. [Zembla](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiE1pe-25BE) (it is an hour twenty, and there is an additional segment about 37 minutes). ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11637 "2017-09-29T20:40:03Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Tweeto just got on TV and said he would decide the fate of Tom Price tonight. But he also called him “a fine person”. So I guess he’ll be fired, that seems to be the Trump death kiss. > > And he seems confused on Puerto Rico, he said -I swear this is close to a direct quote “Things are going really well there, total devastation”. > > And because he’s such a great negotiator and saves us soooooo much money, he really doesn’t like it when we question things like air travel. He resigned!!! W00t!!! Price, I mean. Not Tweeto. Didn’t want to get everyone all excited. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11638 "2017-09-29T20:44:17Z")
See, this is why the thread title can never go away. The administration is forever re-clusterfuckering. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11639 "2017-09-29T20:47:48Z")
Now the administration has to find a new HHS secretary who is equally committed to the destruction of the health care system. The arrogance and chutzpah of this administration never ceases to amaze me. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11640 "2017-09-29T20:49:08Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > He resigned!!! W00t!!! > > Price, I mean. Not Tweeto. Didn’t want to get everyone all excited. Guess the Price wasn’t right. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11641 "2017-09-29T20:50:38Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Please tell me you are not a surgeon. That was pretty funny. I wish I had an appropriate come back ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11642 "2017-09-29T20:54:35Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > He resigned!!! W00t!!! _runs in circles_ ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11643 "2017-09-29T21:00:16Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Now the administration has to find a new HHS secretary who is equally committed to the destruction of the health care system. The arrogance and chutzpah of this administration never ceases to amaze me. Price is rotten to his core, but yes, I’m sure they’ll find another disgusting bottom feeder to take the job. I mean, look who the Senate Judiciary Committee just approved as the head of the DOJ Criminal Division. [Brian Benczkowski, a lawyer who represented Alfa Bank (ties to Putin), and who has no prosecutorial experience](https://www.courthousenews.com/judiciary-committee-approves-trump-pick-doj-crime-chief/). (Courthouse News) This is the person who will decide which cases the Justice Department will prosecute. And which they won’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=581) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=583)