# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11804 "2017-10-04T13:17:04Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [Looks like we can start the Tillerson resignation pool.](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/04/tillerson-called-trump-a-moron-says-report.html)

This Friday. It’s always a Friday.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11805 "2017-10-04T13:20:19Z")

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Turns out Jared and Ivanka were [nearly indicted for felonies in 2012.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/04/ny-prosecutors-preparing-felony-fraud-charges-don-jr-ivanka-trump.html)

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> In the spring of 2012, Donald Trump’s two eldest children, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., found themselves in a precarious legal position. For two years, prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney’s office had been building a criminal case against them for misleading prospective buyers of units in the Trump SoHo, a hotel and condo development that was failing to sell. Despite the best efforts of the siblings’ defense team, the case had not gone away. An indictment seemed like a real possibility. The evidence included emails from the Trumps making clear that they were aware they were using inflated figures about how well the condos were selling to lure buyers.  
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> Prosecutors were preparing an indictment but were overruled by the Manhattan DA who accepted a $50,000 donation from Trump’s attorney. The Trumps also used their money to buy off the plaintiffs in a civil suit over Trump SoHo, but there’s more than a story about how the US justice system is rigged to benefit the wealthy.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11806 "2017-10-04T13:41:35Z")

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> [@Catamount](#):
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> I’m giving him until November 1. Thanksgiving at the longest.

Oh yeah. After the “don’t waste your time” tweet of last weekend, no one with a modicum of self-respect and any alternate source of income would stay a minute longer than necessary.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11807 "2017-10-04T13:53:21Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The US votes against a UN resolution condemning the death penalty for homosexuality.  
> [http://www.newnownext.com/u-s-votes-against-u-n-ban-on-death-penalty-for-homosexuality/10/2017/](http://www.newnownext.com/u-s-votes-against-u-n-ban-on-death-penalty-for-homosexuality/10/2017/)

Holy shit!

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11808 "2017-10-04T13:54:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Turns out Jared and Ivanka were [nearly indicted for felonies in 2012.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/04/ny-prosecutors-preparing-felony-fraud-charges-don-jr-ivanka-trump.html)

Sickening!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11809 "2017-10-04T13:55:06Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Oh yeah. After the “don’t waste your time” tweet of last weekend, no one with a modicum of self-respect and any alternate source of income would stay a minute longer than necessary.

There’s still a sense of duty to the country, which Tillerson is reported to share with the generals who have made it their mission to keep Trump contained.

> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Sickening!

Not any different than Florida AG Pam Bondi dropping the Trump University case following a campaign contribution. It’s how he does business. Many of his supporters actually admire him for it.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11810 "2017-10-04T14:09:18Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Turns out Jared and Ivanka were [nearly indicted for felonies in 2012.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/04/ny-prosecutors-preparing-felony-fraud-charges-don-jr-ivanka-trump.html)

Good, I love to see the state charges building. Although I have no idea if there is any kind of statute of limitations on those things.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11811 "2017-10-04T14:15:32Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> There’s still a sense of duty to the country, which Tillerson is reported to share with the generals who have made it their mission to keep Trump contained.  
> Not any different than Florida AG Pam Bondi dropping the Trump University case following a campaign contribution. It’s how he does business. Many of his supporters actually admire him for it.

I wish we could just throw a blanket obstruction of justice charge over all of these people and move on.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11812 "2017-10-04T14:16:16Z")

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Please hurry, Mr. Mueller. Your country depends on you.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11813 "2017-10-04T14:30:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Please hurry, Mr. Mueller. Your country depends on you.

+1

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11814 "2017-10-04T14:39:11Z")

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Tillerson called Trump “a moron”.

I feel like we should all chip in and send Rex a nice “thank you” gift. Perhaps some good bourbon. He looks like he can use a drink about now.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11815 "2017-10-04T14:44:32Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Tillerson called Trump “a moron”.
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> I feel like we should all chip in and send Rex a nice “thank you” gift. Perhaps some good bourbon. He looks like he can use a drink about now.

He could use some Everclear.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11816 "2017-10-04T14:50:27Z")

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Now Rexy is going to make an unscheduled surprise announcement. It would be awesome if he goes off on Trump Jerry-Springer-Show-guest style.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11817 "2017-10-04T14:53:02Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Now Rexy is going to make an unscheduled surprise announcement. It would be awesome if he goes off on Trump Jerry-Springer-Show-guest style.

I can’t think of Rexy referring to anyone but that dinosaur skeleton in Night at the Museum.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11818 "2017-10-04T15:23:19Z")

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> [@Celidin](#):
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> This Friday. It’s always a Friday.

I guess this means Tillerson won’t be getting his billions in Russian oil money after all?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11819 "2017-10-04T15:25:51Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Please hurry, Mr. Mueller. Your country depends on you.

Yes, but don’t hurry so much that you miss anything. I want the charges to stick and I want them locked up. Oh, and keep looking for ways to make your moves “pardon resistant”.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11820 "2017-10-04T15:32:35Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Yes, but don’t hurry so much that you miss anything. I want the charges to stick and I want them locked up. Oh, and keep looking for ways to make your moves “pardon resistant”.

And if it isn’t too much trouble, could you find some capital offenses?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11821 "2017-10-04T15:36:31Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Tillerson called Trump “a moron”.

> [@Fox News](#):
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> Tillerson said Wednesday he would not address “petty” stuff like that, but said of the president, “He’s smart.”

“I won’t address ‘petty’ stuff like that” = he totally said it.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11822 "2017-10-04T15:42:00Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I guess this means Tillerson won’t be getting his billions in Russian oil money after all?

Rexy just announced that he’s not going anywhere; we just need to chill for a while.

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**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11823 "2017-10-04T15:48:29Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Rexy just announced that he’s not going anywhere; we just need to chill for a while.

Is that like when Dear Leader says he has “full confidence” in someone and they resign that Friday?

Or is it more like when politicians say they’re “never going to run for president!” And then do nothing but?

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