# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 592
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11824 "2017-10-04T15:53:13Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [Looks like we can start the Tillerson resignation pool.](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/04/tillerson-called-trump-a-moron-says-report.html) > [@Catamount](#): > > I’m giving him until November 1. Thanksgiving at the longest. > [@jsc1953](#): > > Rexy just announced that he’s not going anywhere; we just need to chill for a while. [He did announce that](https://apnews.com/797aa570cf21410ca372b091da2e57be/Tillerson:-I-never-considered-leaving-post-of-top-diplomat), which means that his days are numbered. That’s been the pattern with respect to the administration, at least. Didn’t someone just note that being referred to with mild compliment (“smart guy”, “good man”, etc.) by Trump usually was followed by a firing or resignation? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11825 "2017-10-04T16:02:53Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Yes, but don’t hurry so much that you miss anything. I want the charges to stick and I want them locked up. Oh, and keep looking for ways to make your moves “pardon resistant”. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > And if it isn’t too much trouble, could you find some capital offenses? Ah fantasies. Where would you be without them. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11826 "2017-10-04T16:09:39Z")
Happily living in a country where Trump never existed? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11827 "2017-10-04T16:40:19Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Happily living in a country where Trump never existed? That’s _delusion_. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11828 "2017-10-04T16:45:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [He did announce that](https://apnews.com/797aa570cf21410ca372b091da2e57be/Tillerson:-I-never-considered-leaving-post-of-top-diplomat), which means that his days are numbered. That’s been the pattern with respect to the administration, at least. Didn’t someone just note that being referred to with mild compliment (“smart guy”, “good man”, etc.) by Trump usually was followed by a firing or resignation? My guess? End of business day today. Friday at the latest. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11829 "2017-10-04T16:54:06Z")
Remember the “moron” comment and resignation threat came last summer, and was followed by Pence talking him down. There is nothing new here. But eventually there will be. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11830 "2017-10-04T16:54:42Z")
Be on the alert for the tell-tale call: “We’ll make a decision on Rex later on, but Rex is a great guy.” You hear that, you may as well start piling your shit into a file box and hauling it out to your car. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11831 "2017-10-04T16:56:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Remember the “moron” comment and resignation threat came last summer, and was followed by Pence talking him down. There is nothing new here. > > But eventually there will be. What’s new is that we all know about it. It embarrasses Donald. Donald cannot stand insults any more than he can take criticism. Trainrex’s refusal to deny what he said will not be tolerated. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11832 "2017-10-04T16:56:09Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Remember the “moron” comment and resignation threat came last summer, and was followed by Pence talking him down. There is nothing new here. > > But eventually there will be. The funny part is, I was unaware of it until Tillerson called his press conference to let us know that he would not tell us whether or not he called Trump a moron this past summer. Thanks Rex! Would not have known about it without you! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11833 "2017-10-04T17:00:25Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Be on the alert for the tell-tale call: “We’ll make a decision on Rex later on, but Rex is a great guy.” You hear that, you may as well start piling your shit into a file box and hauling it out to your car. Preferably confidential unclassified shit that can be flung back at the source. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11834 "2017-10-04T17:13:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Thanks Rex! Would not have known about it without you! [NBC got the leak](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/tillerson-s-fury-trump-required-intervention-pence-n806451) from “senior administration officials who were aware of the situation at the time.” But why leak it _now_? Somebody has a long knife out, pointed at Tillerson’s back. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11835 "2017-10-04T17:31:25Z")
Don’t worry, Rex. Sarah Sanders says the White House still has full confidence in you! > **[White House: Trump Still Has Confidence In Tillerson](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-trump-still-has-confidence-in-tillerson?)** > > White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that President Donald Trump still has confidence in Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, despite reports that an exasperated Tillerson… I have mixed feelings about Tillerson. He has no business being Secretary of State, and anyone who agrees to join the Trump administration gets no sympathy from me. But, he does seem to be a grownup, and I think he was trying avoid conflict with the DPRK. He doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing, but at least he doesn’t seem to be a belligerent dumbshit. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11836 "2017-10-04T17:32:30Z")
I doubt there’s a member of Trump’s coterie that hasn’t called him a moron— if not aloud, then implicit in a surreptitious roll of the eyes. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11837 "2017-10-04T17:36:36Z")
Here’s a scary thought … if Tillerson resigns, what if Donny appoints a new SoS who shares his mindset on North Korea? We’d have to put a lot of faith in the Senate confirmation process. Or Donny could take another well-trod path, and appoint another retired general who seemingly has all his marbles. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11838 "2017-10-04T17:38:37Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [NBC got the leak](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/tillerson-s-fury-trump-required-intervention-pence-n806451) from “senior administration officials who were aware of the situation at the time.” But why leak it _now_? Somebody has a long knife out, pointed at Tillerson’s back. Rhymes with heave canon? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11839 "2017-10-04T17:41:49Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Rexy just announced that he’s not going anywhere; we just need to chill for a while. On friday he’ll announce he needs to spend more time with Pence’s family. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11840 "2017-10-04T18:07:30Z")
Relevant PredictIt markets… [Will Rex Tillerson be Secretary of State on October 31?](https://www.predictit.org/Contract/8123/Will-Rex-Tillerson-be-Secretary-of-State-on-October-31#data) You can get ‘No’ for about a dime right now. [Will Rex Tillerson be Secretary of State on December 31?](https://www.predictit.org/Contract/8123/Will-Rex-Tillerson-be-Secretary-of-State-on-October-31#data) ‘No’ is going for about a quarter, but this price has moved quite a bit today. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11841 "2017-10-04T18:41:32Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Rhymes with heave canon? My guess as well. Bannon wants total isolationism and Tillerson actually seems to recognize the value of talking to other nations. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11842 "2017-10-04T19:09:06Z")
John Cleese wins the quote of the day: > [@](#): > > Why would Trump be upset if Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called him a moron ? > > You’d think he’d be grateful for the upgrade ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11843 "2017-10-04T19:39:02Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > My guess as well. Bannon wants total isolationism and Tillerson actually seems to recognize the value of talking to other nations. Plus, his first-hand knowledge of WH events stopped about then, or he’d have something fresher to leak. NBC quoted “officials”, plural, though … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=591) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=593)