# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11904 "2017-10-05T20:42:26Z")

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Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz: [Is Trump Really a ‘Moron,’ as Tillerson Said, or Just Racist and Obnoxious?](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.815879)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11905 "2017-10-05T21:40:16Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump and Melania visit the wounded at a hospital in Las Vegas, which is nice. No prizes for guessing who the Donald wants [the subject of the photo to be](https://twitter.com/Scavino45/status/915756385228509184).

Looks like a goddamn three-year-old. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11906 "2017-10-05T23:13:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz: [Is Trump Really a ‘Moron,’ as Tillerson Said, or Just Racist and Obnoxious?](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.815879)

What, it can’t be “All of the above”?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11907 "2017-10-05T23:34:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz: [Is Trump Really a ‘Moron,’ as Tillerson Said, or Just Racist and Obnoxious?](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.815879)

Answer: Yes, he is a moron. Yes, he is racist. Yes, he is obnoxious. How’s that for the trifecta!

Bonus answer: He is also an antie-Semite in addition to being anti-Muslim. And that’s not even taking into account how he pisses all over “Chrustian family values”.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11908 "2017-10-06T00:06:03Z")

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Oh. Well [this can’t be good.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/john-kelly-cell-phone-compromised-243514)

**John Kelly’s personal cell phone was compromised, White House believes.**

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> White House officials believe that chief of staff John Kelly’s personal cellphone was compromised, potentially as long ago as December, according to three U.S. government officials.
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> The discovery raises concerns that hackers or foreign governments may have had access to data on Kelly’s phone while he was secretary of Homeland Security and after he joined the West Wing.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11909 "2017-10-06T00:09:52Z")

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President Moron attempts to play clever dick with “[Calm before the storm](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-alludes-to-calm-before-the-storm-in-confusing-comments/)” comment.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11910 "2017-10-06T00:20:12Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> President Moron attempts to play clever dick with “[Calm before the storm](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-alludes-to-calm-before-the-storm-in-confusing-comments/)” comment.

Odds he is firing a) Tillerson b) Mueller

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11911 "2017-10-06T00:27:51Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Odds he is firing a) Tillerson b) Mueller

Never both on the same Friday. He won’t want to use up two distractions at once.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11912 "2017-10-06T00:33:49Z")

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> Pressed on what he meant, Mr. Trump said “we have the world’s great military people” in the room.

We’re getting ready to bomb someone.

Remember when Obama kept a poker face and delivered a stellar comedy routine at the Correspondents Dinner 24 hours before the operation to get Bin Laden? That guy knew how to keep his cards close to his vest. President Blabbermouth, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11913 "2017-10-06T00:34:20Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> President Moron attempts to play clever dick with “[Calm before the storm](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-alludes-to-calm-before-the-storm-in-confusing-comments/)” comment.

“We’re nukin’ North Korea tomorrow morning.”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11914 "2017-10-06T00:44:54Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Oh. Well [this can’t be good.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/john-kelly-cell-phone-compromised-243514)
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> **John Kelly’s personal cell phone was compromised, White House believes.**

Based just on the Politico article, I’m a little skeptical of this. First, it says the phone was examined by technical support, not security specialists. Identifying an actual compromise is challenging, and general support staff may not be able to do so. They may have entered a memo or a ticket that went to security but was not confirmed. Second, Politico says the phone had stopped working. If it had been compromised by a state actor, I’d expect it to continue working. I wouldn’t think it would be such a noisy infection that it would interfere with normal operations.

Just speculation on my part, as an information security guy.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11915 "2017-10-06T02:39:13Z")

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[FEMA removes statistics about drinking water access and electricity in Puerto Rico from website](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/05/fema-removes-statistics-about-drinking-water-access-and-electricity-in-puerto-rico-from-website/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.98cbcc3aca70)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11916 "2017-10-06T02:53:23Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> We’re getting ready to bomb someone.
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> Remember when Obama kept a poker face and delivered a stellar comedy routine at the Correspondents Dinner 24 hours before the operation to get Bin Laden? That guy knew how to keep his cards close to his vest. President Blabbermouth, not so much.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> President Moron attempts to play clever dick with “[Calm before the storm](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-alludes-to-calm-before-the-storm-in-confusing-comments/)” comment.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Odds he is firing a) Tillerson b) Mueller

> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> “We’re nukin’ North Korea tomorrow morning.”

There’s not going to be any nuking, at least right now. My guess is it has something to do with the Iran deal. It has nothing to do with him firing anyone in his cabinet, because he wouldn’t consider that a “storm.” The shitgibbon’s words \*are \*teasing something military-related, considering the setting he was in when he said it. And now I’m reading that he’s pulling us out of the Iran deal and going to be much more confrontational with Iran going forward. [Yay](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-usa/trump-expected-to-decertify-iran-nuclear-deal-official-says-idUSKBN1CA2ID). So like I said, no nuking…yet.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11917 "2017-10-06T02:59:06Z")

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Yet there are people out there who are excited, happily, when Trump does something like that. I have no idea why.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11918 "2017-10-06T03:02:11Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> “We’re nukin’ North Korea tomorrow morning.”

“I want the whole world to stop calling me a moron.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11919 "2017-10-06T03:16:50Z")

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My $ is on some action occurring in Niger.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11920 "2017-10-06T03:34:34Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> My $ is on some action occurring in Niger.

Bets he pronounces it inappropriately at least once.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11921 "2017-10-06T03:38:10Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> “We’re nukin’ North Korea tomorrow morning.”

My guess is he ordered a strike to decapitate the North Korean regime but not a nuclear strike.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11922 "2017-10-06T03:38:12Z")

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Rumor of the moment- John Kelly to announce resignation tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11923 "2017-10-06T03:48:51Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Rumor of the moment- John Kelly to announce resignation tomorrow.

Rumor from where?

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