# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 597
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11924 "2017-10-06T03:50:51Z")
If the [scuttlebutt](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tillerson-mattis-mnuchin-forge-suicide-pact-in-the-event-trump-wants-one-of-them-gone-report/article/2636550) is to be believed, that would mean adios to Mattis and Mnuchin as well. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11925 "2017-10-06T03:55:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > My $ is on some action occurring in Niger. No way are we getting all the way to Niger. There is this thing called the Atlantic Ocean. Big water. Ocean water! Nobody knew water could be so tremendous. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11926 "2017-10-06T04:07:31Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Rumor from where? Rumor goes like this: Kelly was supposed to go to Vegas on AF1 with Trump, was booted off flight at last minute. Ergo, Trump is mad and Kelly has had it. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11927 "2017-10-06T04:12:26Z")
I just hope that McCain lives long enough to see the (metaphorical) end of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11928 "2017-10-06T04:21:21Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Rumor of the moment- John Kelly to announce resignation tomorrow. > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Rumor from where? > [@JohnT](#): > > Rumor goes like this: Kelly was supposed to go to Vegas on AF1 with Trump, was booted off flight at last minute. Ergo, Trump is mad and Kelly has had it. [Found it](https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/04/report-general-kelly-pulled-off-air-force-one-flight-to-las-vegas-may-resign-this-week/): > [@](#): > > Bloomberg White House correspondent Jennifer Jacobs reports on Twitter that Trump’s chief of staff, General John Kelly, was originally going to be on the Air Force One flight to Las Vegas but was “pulled off flight” at the last moment. > [@](#): > > Although the White House initially refused to answer her questions about this rather akward move, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders eventually said that there’s “nothing to read into here,” explaining: > > He is basically always on the manifest. Sometimes he travels, and sometimes he doesn’t. > An important caveat, of course, but Huckabee’s explanation did not prevent Scott Dworkin from tweeting that not one, not two, but three people have told him that this may very well be General Kelly’s last week as Trump’s chief of staff. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11929 "2017-10-06T04:25:41Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > President Moron attempts to play clever dick with “[Calm before the storm](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-alludes-to-calm-before-the-storm-in-confusing-comments/)” comment. Somehow, I just don’t think it has anything to do with the latest hurricane being projected to hit the gulf states. I don’t think Trump thinks beyond “Where should I go for my next week-end vacation?” Has he visited Mar-a-Lago yet? I never heard about any damage sustained there. Isn’t it time for him to do an international trip? Which of his hotels or resorts is in the queue? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11930 "2017-10-06T05:19:12Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “We’re nukin’ North Korea tomorrow morning.” _“What are the bugles blowin’ for?” said Secretary of State. “For the Rocket Man, the Rocket Man”, the President said. “What makes you look so orange, so orange?” said Secretary of State. “I’m putting America first”, the President said. For we’re nukin’ North Korea, you can hear the anthem play, The subs are in the Yellow Sea – they’re targeting Pyongyang; As missiles soar, the tweets will fly, every dotard has his day, An’ we’re nukin’ North Korea in the mornin’._ with apologies to Rudyard Kipling ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11931 "2017-10-06T09:29:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And why exactly do they do this? I know some people still think the sun shines out of his ass. And some defend him just to be obnoxious and contrary (lookin’ at you, **Okra** ). And then there’s the family. Fine. But the people who KNOW he is an idiot and even call him that–why is it that they still “justify and explain for him, they enable him, they lie for him.” Maybe I know the answer to this and I’ve forgotten. Someone remind me, please. Some of them think he’ll give them some of his money; others, that he’ll get Melania to find hot supermodels for them to sleep with; still others hope for both of these outcomes. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11932 "2017-10-06T11:04:59Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Rumor from where? Just an unsourced post on Democratic Underground. Perhaps worth nothing, but one never knows. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11933 "2017-10-06T11:26:29Z")
The reality is that Kelly is a 67-year-old man – probably fitter than 99% of late 60-somethings and fitter than 90% people half his age. But still, he can only put up with so much with the realization that it won’t stop the impending disaster that is the Trump administration. I have to say that while I’m still of the opinion that Tillerson is not an impressive Sec of State, he gets credit for at least trying his best to be a credible US representative. It’s obvious he wants to do a good job. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11934 "2017-10-06T13:09:00Z")
Tillerson was a dreadful pick for Secretary of State, but in the sense that he really wasn’t qualified for the job. He’s a smart man who wants to BE a good Secretary of State, which sure puts him way above Donald Trump’s level of intelligence and commitment to his job. The same could be said of James Mattis or John Kelly, but most of the rest of them are scum who aren’t there to do a good job; they’re sycophants there to scam someone. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11935 "2017-10-06T13:17:52Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Rumor of the moment- John Kelly to announce resignation tomorrow. Other rumor that [Pompeo](https://www.axios.com/cia-director-pompeo-considered-to-replace-tillerson-2493643532.html) to replace Tillerson. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11936 "2017-10-06T13:17:56Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > _“What are the bugles blowin’ for?” said Secretary of State. > “For the Rocket Man, the Rocket Man”, the President said. > “What makes you look so orange, so orange?” said Secretary of State. > “I’m putting America first”, the President said. > For we’re nukin’ North Korea, you can hear the anthem play, > The subs are in the Yellow Sea – they’re targeting Pyongyang; > As missiles soar, the tweets will fly, every dotard has his day, > An’ we’re nukin’ North Korea in the mornin’._ > with apologies to Rudyard Kipling Oh, _that_ is good. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11937 "2017-10-06T13:22:02Z")
Remember when Obama’s good jobs numbers were fake, but then Trump’s good job numbers were real? I’m guessing that the job numbers are [fake again](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/business/economy/jobs-report-unemployment.html?_r=0). _“The economy lost 33,000 jobs last month, the first monthly decline in employment in seven years. Wall Street economists had expected very modest employment gains of 80,000, according to Bloomberg.”_ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11938 "2017-10-06T13:24:04Z")
Has he signed legislation that will outlaw North Korea forever? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11939 "2017-10-06T13:36:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [FEMA removes statistics about drinking water access and electricity in Puerto Rico from website](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/05/fema-removes-statistics-about-drinking-water-access-and-electricity-in-puerto-rico-from-website/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.98cbcc3aca70) :mad: ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11940 "2017-10-06T14:20:20Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > :mad: Did you take a look at the FEMA site? They replaced the electricity and drinking water stats with something far more important: Number of paper towels distributed. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11941 "2017-10-06T14:35:36Z")
“The Spectacle of D.T.'s HUmiliated Men” on the Slot website…just the latest in the long parade of articles based on “Just How Fucked Up IS This Guy? What the Fuck is WRONG with Him?” > **[The Spectacle of Donald Trump's Humiliated Men](https://jezebel.com/the-spectacle-of-donald-trumps-humiliated-men-1819151660)** > > “He loves this country. He puts Americans and America first. He’s smart and he demands results,” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said about Donald Trump in a short press conference on Wednesday afternoon. The curious presser came shortly after NBC... ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11942 "2017-10-06T14:59:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Has he signed legislation that will outlaw North Korea forever? _I_ thought it was funny. Nobody else did. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/11943 "2017-10-06T15:00:05Z")
So Pence is on his way to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Is this a do-over? After Trump’s visit on Tuesday, did Kelly say “Oh for crissakes…can we get somebody down there to hug the victims and promise support? Is that too freakin’ much to ask? Pence…you’re up.” Or did Pence volunteer as a way of demonstrating that he can act presidential…should the need ever [ahem] arise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=596) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=598)