# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 602
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12024 "2017-10-09T04:15:33Z")
Republican Senator Bob Corker said, It’s a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning. > Trump replied with, Senator Bob Corker “begged” me to endorse him for re-election in Tennessee. I said “NO” and he dropped out (said he could not win without my endorsement). He also wanted to be Secretary of State, I said “NO THANKS.” He is also largely responsible for the horrendous Iran Deal! Hence, I would fully expect Corker to be a negative voice and stand in the way of our great agenda. Didn’t have the guts to run! > > > ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12025 "2017-10-09T04:17:38Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Republican Senator Bob Corker said, It’s a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning. > [x.com](https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920) > > Trump replied with, Senator Bob Corker “begged” me to endorse him for re-election in Tennessee. I said “NO” and he dropped out (said he could not win without my endorsement). He also wanted to be Secretary of State, I said “NO THANKS.” He is also largely responsible for the horrendous Iran Deal! Hence, I would fully expect Corker to be a negative voice and stand in the way of our great agenda. Didn’t have the guts to run! > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917026789188399105) > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917029060471152640) > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917030148867682304) …I think its the other way around: Corker replied to Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12026 "2017-10-09T04:26:27Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I think its the other way around: Corker replied to Trump? You may be right. Corker had made some other anti-Trump comments on one of the Sunday talk shows. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12027 "2017-10-09T04:27:41Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I think its the other way around: Corker replied to Trump? With the “adult day care center”? You are correct. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12028 "2017-10-09T04:31:59Z")
[Corker is pissed, and he’s not holding back anymore](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-corker/senator-corker-says-trump-risks-putting-u-s-on-path-to-world-war-three-idUSKBN1CD0OP). Considering he was vetted as a potential Veep, that’s quite something. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12029 "2017-10-09T04:33:23Z")
Trump claims to have invented the word “fake”. > **[Trump defends tossing paper towels to Puerto Rico hurricane victims: Analysis](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/10/08/donald-trump-defends-paper-towels-in-puerto-rico-says-stephen-paddock-was-probably-smart-in-bizarre-tv-interview-analysis.html)** > > In a conversation that aired on Christian television station Trinity Broadcasting, Trump said a number of bizarre statements including a defence of the “beautiful, soft towels” he threw in Puerto Rico. “The cheering was incredible,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12030 "2017-10-09T04:58:32Z")
And somehow, that fails to be anywhere near the most ridiculous thing he’s quoted as saying in that article. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12031 "2017-10-09T05:21:57Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > I really hate it when it’s suggested it’s Bernie’s fault we have the current shit stain in the white house. One could make a quasi-reasonable claim along those lines… but it would require some somewhat nonstandard usage of the word “fault”. “Fault” has two similar meanings: (1) Ethical culpability (2) Cause-and-effect, without ethical or moral judgment It’s like someone who is involved in a car accident. If they drank and drove and caused an accident, we say they are at fault. If they were talking on their cell phone and caused an accident, we say they are at fault. If they were doing absolutely nothing obviously objectionable, not speeding, not drinking, not texting, etc., but ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time when suddenly a super-corner-case road situation occurred, and an accident happens, well, the law might find them to be some percent legally culpable, legally “at fault”, but no sensible person is going to judge them negatively. You could make a strong argument that, had Bernie just not existed in the first place, or had he never even hinted at running for president, then Hillary would have won. But… he was absolutely not doing anything morally or ethically wrong by running for president. He was acting well within established norms, and in fact had far more success than the vast, vast majority of non-establishment candidates. (Trump being the even more successful example, of course.) There’s no way he could or should have anticipated that, all of a sudden, in this election, the bog-standard “someone wins the primary, then the party unifies, and the hard feelings are left behind” would, quite possibly partly due to Russian influence, not happen nearly as much as it normally does. And even if that was something that could be anticipated, arguing that that somehow means that no one should ever even enter the race against the presumed frontrunner in a presidential primary is just ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12032 "2017-10-09T05:36:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump claims to have invented the word “fake”. > [Trump defends tossing paper towels to Puerto Rico hurricane victims: Analysis](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/10/08/donald-trump-defends-paper-towels-in-puerto-rico-says-stephen-paddock-was-probably-smart-in-bizarre-tv-interview-analysis.html) Well, to be fair, the way he uses it–as well as any other word–is his invention. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12033 "2017-10-09T05:39:38Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > Dont have to make them states; just give the people there voting rights and proper representation - seeing as they are already citizens! > > mc They are citizens thanks to certain laws being enacted over the years. The constitution determines who gets representation. Perhaps something along the way Canada and Australia treats their territories is the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12034 "2017-10-09T12:20:17Z")
Need a little cheering up? [Enjoy this story about the time Frank Sinatra told Trump to go fuck himself.](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/whoa-frank-sinatra-told-donald-trump-to-go-fck-himself-in-1990/) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12035 "2017-10-09T12:23:03Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > [Corker is pissed, and he’s not holding back anymore](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-corker/senator-corker-says-trump-risks-putting-u-s-on-path-to-world-war-three-idUSKBN1CD0OP). > > Considering he was vetted as a potential Veep, that’s quite something. Corker helped Trump get elected. Now that there’s nothing in it for Corker, he reveals what he thinks of Trump. I’m pretty disgusted by that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12036 "2017-10-09T12:28:17Z")
Yeah, before we get on our knees to Bob Corker and start fellating him, don’t forget that he did vote to kill health care coverage for 25 million people just a couple of months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12037 "2017-10-09T12:36:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Need a little cheering up? > > [Enjoy this story about the time Frank Sinatra told Trump to go fuck himself.](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/whoa-frank-sinatra-told-donald-trump-to-go-fck-himself-in-1990/) I think that story buries the lede: > [@](#): > > When Trump asked who Stevie and Eydie were, Weisman became furious and alleges **he tried to choke Trump with his own tie**. Luckily for The Donald, Weisman’s son, who was also at the meeting, was able to stop Weisman before he could do any damage. Imma just leave that there… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12038 "2017-10-09T14:06:36Z")
No idea what Micheal Smerconish’s credentials are (more of a PBS than CNN guy, myself), but I hope he’s on to something when stating that [Corker’s building a 25th Amendment case for removing Trump from office](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/cnn-michael-smerconish-says-corkers-building-a-25th-amendment-case-for-removing-trump-from-office/). > [@](#): > > “The lawyer in me hears something different. I’m thinking of the 25th Amendment, Section 4, which speaks to a president who is unable to discharge the powers of duties of his office,” Smerconish said. “Let’s just reflect on some of the word choices that senator made. Post-Charlottesville, he was questioning the stability of the president. Now he’s using the word ‘reckless, chaos.’ Now he is saying ‘he concerns me.’ I think he’s planting seeds for questioning the fitness, the mental fitness of the president pursuant to the 25th Amendment to continue with his responsibilities.” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12039 "2017-10-09T14:24:23Z")
Like, _SUPER_ hot dancer Rick Perry had another flashbulb idea to [[ask] federal regulators to effectively subsidize coal and nuclear power plants at ratepayers’ expense.](http://theconversation.com/why-rick-perrys-proposed-subsidies-for-coal-fail-economics-101-83339). > [@](#): > > Under Perry’s proposal, plants that operate in deregulated electricity markets – where generators normally compete to provide power at the lowest cost – would be guaranteed positive profits so long as they stockpile 90 days’ worth of fuel on site. > > To rationalize this proposal, which a former Republican member of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission has dubbed “the antithesis of good economics,” Secretary Perry points to uncompensated benefits generated by coal and nuclear plants. > [@](#): > > Deregulated power markets already have measures in place to support efficient levels of investment in reliability and resilience. There is surely room for refinement, but Perry’s proposal is the opposite of refined. It asks government to interfere in well-functioning markets, which is not something Republicans usually support – especially since it will come at great expense to ratepayers. Dude! The demand for coal is, uh, waning, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12040 "2017-10-09T15:11:18Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Corker helped Trump get elected. Now that there’s nothing in it for Corker, he reveals what he thinks of Trump. I’m pretty disgusted by that. I’m from Tennessee. Corker can go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12041 "2017-10-09T15:40:01Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Corker helped Trump get elected. Now that there’s nothing in it for Corker, he reveals what he thinks of Trump. I’m pretty disgusted by that. You could replace “Corker” in that sentence with any member of the GOP and it’s still the same. Trump is not to blame for everything that is wrong with America right now. The GOP is enabling, supporting, and paying the legal bills for their whore. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12042 "2017-10-09T15:42:50Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Like, _SUPER_ hot dancer Rick Perry had another flashbulb idea to [[ask] federal regulators to effectively subsidize coal and nuclear power plants at ratepayers’ expense.](http://theconversation.com/why-rick-perrys-proposed-subsidies-for-coal-fail-economics-101-83339). It’s stuff like this that makes me not get today’s conservatives. I consider myself conservative but all I can do is look at these people and shake my head. We need to be getting rid of subsidies to minimize government interaction with the market and for the love of god if the government is going to put its finger on the scale can we at least use it to try and deal with negative externalities that the market doesn’t address like global warming. A far more conservative proposal would be to take the dollar amount proposed and use it to subsidize retraining programs for nuclear and coal miners. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12043 "2017-10-09T15:53:13Z")
VP and complete tool Mike Pence spent roughly a quarter of a million dollars on a publicity stunt. He flew from Las Vegas on Sunday so he could walk in to an NFL game in Indianapolis with the sole purpose of being offended by players kneeling. He then left the game and flew to California for a fundraising event. [Story here](https://deadspin.com/useless-prop-mike-pence-attempts-to-explain-taxpayer-fu-1819278410). Also, the photo of him and his wife at the game yesterday was one he had previously tweeted from a game he attended back in 2014. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=601) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=603)