# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12044 "2017-10-09T16:05:59Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Corker helped Trump get elected. Now that there’s nothing in it for Corker, he reveals what he thinks of Trump. I’m pretty disgusted by that.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> Yeah, before we get on our knees to Bob Corker and start fellating him, don’t forget that he did vote to kill health care coverage for 25 million people just a couple of months ago.

Oh, I hope I haven’t said anything that implies I am admiring of Corker in any way. I’m not. I know he’s a douche bag extraordinaire who had a lot to do with putting Trump where he is, and he’s leaving because of Bannon’s intentions to primary him.

What’s interesting to me, though, is his willingness to now go forth and throw Trump under a bus. Usually these guys just step away but keep to the code. There is some speculation that Corker may even lead a 25th Amendment charge against Trump. You have to admit, that would be something. Kind of like watching a snake eat its tail.

> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> You could replace “Corker” in that sentence with any member of the GOP and it’s still the same. Trump is not to blame for everything that is wrong with America right now. The GOP is enabling, supporting, and paying the legal bills for their whore.

I completely agree. The willingness of the GOP as a whole to turn a blind eye to someone (Trump) who daily endangers and hollows out the entire country in substantive, unnecessary ways, belies a sickness within the party and the country we must examine and address if we are to survive as a recognizable United States of America. I am far from sure we will.

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12045 "2017-10-09T16:13:48Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> VP and complete tool Mike Pence spent roughly a quarter of a million dollars on a publicity stunt. He flew from Las Vegas on Sunday so he could walk in to an NFL game in Indianapolis with the sole purpose of being offended by players kneeling. He then left the game and flew to California for a fundraising event. [Story here](https://deadspin.com/useless-prop-mike-pence-attempts-to-explain-taxpayer-fu-1819278410).

Seems the White House is fine with peacefully protesting while on the job.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12046 "2017-10-09T17:08:30Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Seems the White House is fine with peacefully protesting while on the job.

Marvelous. 😃

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12047 "2017-10-09T17:11:09Z")

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It’s just one poll, but…

[Trump Popularity Slipping in Rural America](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ruralamerica-poll/trumps-popularity-is-slipping-in-rural-america-poll-idUSKBN1CE162).

I live in rural America, and I see signs of this in my little corner, too. The geezers at the local diner have lowered their voices, and not nearly so many Trump bumper stickers as there were for awhile.

It’s a trend that needs to continue.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12048 "2017-10-09T17:15:10Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> It’s just one poll, but…
> 
> [Trump Popularity Slipping in Rural America](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ruralamerica-poll/trumps-popularity-is-slipping-in-rural-america-poll-idUSKBN1CE162).
> 
> I live in rural America, and I see signs of this in my little corner, too. The geezers at the local diner have lowered their voices, and not nearly so many Trump bumper stickers as there were for awhile.

I believe it. [The politician I mentioned back in August](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20428534#post20428534) is from a rural area.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12049 "2017-10-09T17:55:00Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I believe it. [The politician I mentioned back in August](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20428534#post20428534) is from a rural area.

When you vote for someone you hated everything about a few months before, but you now like him because he hates the people you hate as much as you do, well, what could go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12050 "2017-10-09T18:15:41Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Like, _SUPER_ hot dancer Rick Perry had another flashbulb idea to [[ask] federal regulators to effectively subsidize coal and nuclear power plants at ratepayers’ expense.](http://theconversation.com/why-rick-perrys-proposed-subsidies-for-coal-fail-economics-101-83339).

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> It’s stuff like this that makes me not get today’s conservatives. I consider myself conservative but all I can do is look at these people and shake my head.
> 
> We need to be getting rid of subsidies to minimize government interaction with the market and for the love of god if the government is going to put its finger on the scale can we at least use it to try and deal with negative externalities that the market doesn’t address like global warming. A far more conservative proposal would be to take the dollar amount proposed and use it to subsidize retraining programs for nuclear and coal miners.

I liked this sentence:

> [@](#):
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> In our view, this is like subsidizing bacon because it contains vitamins.

😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12051 "2017-10-09T19:14:18Z")

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Turns out there’s a word for it besides “clusterfuck.”

> [@](#):
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> \*Kakistocracy \*is a term that was first used in the 17th century; derived from a Greek word, it means, literally, government by the worst and most unscrupulous people among us. More broadly, it can mean the most inept and cringeworthy kind of government. The term fell into disuse over the past century or more, and most highly informed people have never heard it before (but to kids familiar with the word “kaka” it might resonate.)…

[Cite](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/american-kakistocracy/542391/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)

This really long and detailed \*Atlantic \*article is behind a paywall, so I’ll do my best to hit y’all with some highlights (if you can call them that). :dubious:

> [@](#):
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> Kakistocracy is back, and we are experiencing it firsthand in America. The unscrupulous element has come into sharp focus in recent weeks as a string of Trump Cabinet members and White House staffers have been caught spending staggering sums of taxpayer dollars to charter jets, at times to go small distances where cheap commercial transportation was readily available, at times to conveniently visit home areas or have lunch with family members. …
> 
> The Constitution prohibits anything of value other than a salary going to a president from the federal government or the states. (Trump had also been pushing the District of Columbia for more favorable property taxes.) The failure of GSA top officials to act on Trump’s apparent violation is under investigation by the agency’s inspector general. Foreign-government entities falling over themselves to stay in the hotel and schedule meetings and events there at premium prices may have violated the foreign Emoluments Clause…
> 
> News that the president’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner had used a private server and private email accounts for official business—multiplying to several accounts, then hurriedly transferred to the Trump business server after the revelations —showed a remarkable indifference to the rules…
> 
> Awful as the grifterish mentality and behavior may be, worse is the other part of kakistocracy—inept, corrupt, and disruptive governance. Impulsive, stream-of-consciousness communications from the president by tweet are one thing. Examples like a budget that aims to knock out our weather satellites and cut our ability to respond to a pandemic, along with the Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) removing from its website information about the disastrous conditions in Puerto Rico while pumping up the good news, are another.
> 
> The misguided and reckless travel bans instituted at the beginning of the administration were a harbinger of indifference to norms and practices of government previously embraced by both parties…
> 
> More troublesome still is the danger to world stability reflected in the embarrassing contretemps-triangle involving Secretary of State Tillerson, Secretary of Defense Mattis and Trump… While we have seen many instances in the past of presidents and Cabinet members at odds—remember Gerald Ford and James Schlesinger; Ronald Reagan and Alexander Haig—we have had nothing like these public disputes and contradictory signals involving the most sensitive trouble spots on earth.
> 
> Donald Trump campaigned by promising to run government like a business. Unfortunately, that business is Trump University. There are 602 key policy positions in the executive requiring Senate confirmation. Almost nine months into the Trump presidency, only 142—less than a quarter—have been filled, and nearly half, 289, have not even had a nominee chosen. The record here is starkly worse than under the previous four presidents, from George W. Bush through Obama. …
> 
> …
> 
> The New York Times reported that EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has filled his schedule almost exclusively with meetings and fancy dinners with coal-mining, chemical company and others EPA regulates—often followed by moves to deregulate them—while scheduling almost no meetings with environmental groups. Pruitt has also spent $25,000 in taxpayer money to put a soundproof phone booth in his office, raising red flags about why this was necessary.
> 
> The kakistocracy applies as well to Congress. …
> 
> Then there is the ineptitude of the policy process in Congress. Despite Speaker Ryan’s boast that this could be the most productive presidency and Congress in our lifetime, the record of Congress in its first nine months is abysmal. …
> 
> Moreover, Republican leaders, especially Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, have blown up most of the remaining norms about how laws are developed, debated, and enacted…
> 
> The failure to pass any health measure, or to send Trump any significant bills he can use to have lavish Rose Garden victory ceremonies to show how much he is winning, has led to another round of presidential insults aimed at his own party leaders McConnell and Ryan, and at apostates like John McCain and Jeff Flake. The latest is a round of ridiculous and counterproductive attacks by Trump on Senate Foreign Relations Chair Bob Corker, who responded with his own broadsides at an unstable president lacking adult supervision. Many observers are now writing and talking about a Republican civil war, with the latest battle being the Senate primary in Alabama that led to the nomination of radical Roy Moore.
> 
> “Can’t anybody here play this game?” was Casey Stengel’s famous lament about his inept 1962 New York Mets. The same lament could apply to the Trump administration and its majority team in Congress—but the problem is deeper and worse when ineptitude joins with venality and recklessness, and when the stakes are far more than baseball pennants.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12052 "2017-10-09T19:34:24Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> It’s just one poll, but…
> 
> [Trump Popularity Slipping in Rural America](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ruralamerica-poll/trumps-popularity-is-slipping-in-rural-america-poll-idUSKBN1CE162).
> 
> I live in rural America, and I see signs of this in my little corner, too. The geezers at the local diner have lowered their voices, and not nearly so many Trump bumper stickers as there were for awhile.
> 
> It’s a trend that needs to continue.

I just visited my roots, deep in Trump country. Saw few Trump signs but did see a sign board with just nine letters on it.

OMG  
GOP  
WTF

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12053 "2017-10-09T19:36:10Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Seems the White House is fine with peacefully protesting while on the job.

Assuming Pence collects his paycheck for those hours when he traveled from Las Vegas to Los Angeles via Indianapolis and spent time at a sporting event, then he is literally a paid protester.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12054 "2017-10-09T19:39:01Z")

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I think some t-shirts are in order with \*Kakistocracy \*on the front and red ball caps with (in white, of course):  
OMG  
GOP  
WTF

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12055 "2017-10-09T19:48:22Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> It’s just one poll, but…
> 
> [Trump Popularity Slipping in Rural America](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ruralamerica-poll/trumps-popularity-is-slipping-in-rural-america-poll-idUSKBN1CE162).
> 
> I live in rural America, and I see signs of this in my little corner, too. The geezers at the local diner have lowered their voices, and not nearly so many Trump bumper stickers as there were for awhile.
> 
> It’s a trend that needs to continue.

My BIL, a CEO of a small company in Texas that makes equipment for oil rigs is having doubts about his vote for Trump. Yes, his business is doing better, but the rest of the mess is a concern.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12056 "2017-10-09T20:49:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Need a little cheering up?
> 
> [Enjoy this story about the time Frank Sinatra told Trump to go fuck himself.](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/whoa-frank-sinatra-told-donald-trump-to-go-fck-himself-in-1990/)

🙂

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12057 "2017-10-09T21:20:30Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Need a little cheering up?
> 
> [Enjoy this story about the time Frank Sinatra told Trump to go fuck himself.](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/whoa-frank-sinatra-told-donald-trump-to-go-fck-himself-in-1990/)

**I** didn’t use those _exact_ words but…

> [@Gielgud shot me a disapproving look. Encounters with celebrities.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gielgud-shot-me-a-disapproving-look-encounters-with-celebrities/778678/12):
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> In 1985 or so I worked in a ski shop at the base of Ajax in Aspen Co. At the time, the building (the Little Nell building) was right at the base of Ajax. It has since been demolished and replaced by the gondola. We had a small locker room with about 20 lockers. The lockers were great because it meant you didn’t have to carry your ski gear around. You could put your boots on and head out the door and be at the lift. Most of the lockers were rented by Aspen celebrities. Jack Nicholson, Martina Navratilova, and George Hamilton had lockers. Local drug dealer [Steve Grabow](https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-139558981.html) rented a whole closet. These lockers were rented yearly and only rarely became available (see Steve Grabow). We didn’t advertise the lockers and you wouldn’t know they were there unless you poked your head through the doorway.
> 
> Christmas season is by far the busiest time of year in Aspen. The town gets packed with vacationers. You can’t get into restaurants, lift lines get long and all the stores are busy.  
> My ski shop was twice as busy as usual. Our clientele was mostly people either rich or famous or both. We used to joke that we needed a subscription to People Magazine to know who we were dealing with. Which leads to DJT.
> 
> A guy comes in to the shop and says “I’d like to rent a locker”. The store is full of people and we are BUSY. I looked at him and said “No way. It’s Christmas and the lockers are all rented yearly anyway”. He says “But I’m Donald Trump.” I, having never heard of him, said “That’s great but we still don’t have any lockers available”. He left, apparently to find a phone, because I soon got a call from the manager that said “This guy is famous in New York and is a millionaire real estate developer or something. He called a couple weeks ago and I said we would take care of him. Give him my locker.”  
> I set him up and Ivana and he came in every day for the next week. He was never rude or unpleasant and I honestly don’t recall talking to him any more. Ivana however, I remember much better. She was very outgoing, sort of attractive, and a good skier.

I didn’t end up getting\* My Way\* but “No way” was my polite way of saying what Frank said.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12058 "2017-10-09T21:52:01Z")

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How the hell do you ski in a golf cart?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12059 "2017-10-09T22:18:22Z")

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I still cannot believe that things like [this tweet](https://twitter.com/thehill/status/917507980890988546) are a real thing. I feel like I’ve stumbled across a first draft of _Idiocracy_ and I’ve mistaken it for real life.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12060 "2017-10-09T22:38:36Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
>
> It’s just one poll, but…
> 
> [Trump Popularity Slipping in Rural America](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ruralamerica-poll/trumps-popularity-is-slipping-in-rural-america-poll-idUSKBN1CE162).
> 
> I live in rural America, and I see signs of this in my little corner, too. The geezers at the local diner have lowered their voices, and not nearly so many Trump bumper stickers as there were for awhile.
> 
> It’s a trend that needs to continue.

I live in a red county full of old people who voted for Trump because they’re old and hateful and don’t like all those damn brown people speakin’ Spanish around here and I’ve noticed the same trend. Beginning of the year: grocery store parking lot full of Trump bumper stickers. Near the end of the year: Maybe one or two.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12061 "2017-10-09T22:38:40Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
>
> Like, _SUPER_ hot dancer Rick Perry
> 
> Dude! The demand for coal is, uh, waning, perhaps.

Coal powered tractors with really big tires, maybe??

I can’t ever pass up an excuse to post this. Trust me, it’s worth the three second ad. Our Secretary of Energy is one versatile dude.

![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tgT0p_a02ig/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/tgT0p_a02ig?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12062 "2017-10-09T22:53:06Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> …What’s interesting to me, though, is [Corker’s] willingness to now go forth and throw Trump under a bus. Usually these guys just step away but keep to the code. There is some speculation that Corker may even lead a 25th Amendment charge against Trump. …

If we were to learn that the big GOP names in Congress were quietly _encouraging_ Corker to travel the ‘prepare for a 25th Amendment charge’ route…would we be surprised?

There might even have been discreet assurances of future employment for Corker, to reward him for putting himself out as the canary in the coal mine. After all, by being so openly anti-Trump, he is taking a real risk (given the alt-right machine and its capacity to rile up the unstable).

But if Corker’s forays into truth-speaking about the naked Emperor go _well_, then…

You just know that McConnell, Ryan and the rest are dreaming of being able to deal with conventional Republican reptile Pence, instead of with the Drama Queen.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12063 "2017-10-09T23:09:26Z")

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Oh good, the First Lady is now in a public [feud](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/09/melania-trump-blasts-ivanas-attention-seeking-first-lady-comment-in-biting-statement/23237623/) with her husband’s ex-wife:

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> Mrs. Trump has made the White House a home for Barron and the President. She loves living in Washington, DC, and is honored by her role as first lady of the United States. She plans to use her title and role to help children, not sell books. There is clearly no substance to this statement from an ex, this is unfortunately only attention-seeking and self-serving noise.

I actually heard people say this family was bringing class back to the White House.

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