# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 609
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12164 "2017-10-11T17:27:19Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > The Great Orange Leader didn’t even know what the Nuclear triad was last year. But he’s totally confident in his opinions. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump is not good with higher math. These posts were perfectly timed. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12165 "2017-10-11T18:50:48Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > We’re at around 4000, and we had 32,000, so that’s only an 8 fold increase, not a 10. > > And if that is actually his point, I’ll eat my hat. Numbers are hard. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12166 "2017-10-11T18:51:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Numbers are hard. Who knew there were so many of them. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12167 "2017-10-11T19:41:52Z")
When this thread was started, I thought it would go on for a couple of pages initially, then Trump would settle into his role with maybe the odd gaffe that folks would just bump the page to report. How foolish was I? This is the clusterfuck that just keeps on giving, and giving and giving. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12168 "2017-10-11T19:45:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Who knew there were so many of them. Fake! All of them! Except 1, that is the only real number. The best number. Even 2 is fake. It’s crap. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12169 "2017-10-11T19:46:10Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > When this thread was started, I thought it would go on for a couple of pages initially, then Trump would settle into his role with maybe the odd gaffe that folks would just bump the page to report. > > How foolish was I? This is the clusterfuck that just keeps on giving, and giving and giving. I expected a slightly-worse Bush (somebody that would start new wars and tank the world economy). I was way too optimistic, a first for me. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12170 "2017-10-11T19:47:25Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Fake! All of them! Except 1, that is the only real number. The best number. Even 2 is fake. It’s crap. That’s why 1 is the loneliest number. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12171 "2017-10-11T19:51:05Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Fake! All of them! Except 1, that is the only real number. The best number. Even 2 is fake. It’s crap. You can’t trust crooked numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12172 "2017-10-11T19:52:50Z")
Discussions are [apparently underway to downgrade](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-state-visit-uk-no-queen-visit-working-downgrade-tour-us-president-latest-a7994356.html)Trump’s visit to Great Britain to “working visit” rather than “state visit”. I would guess that the queen herself has basically told the government “no fucking way”. No visit with the queen. No state dinner. No riding in the royal carriage. I’m sure we’ll hear soon from the Thin-skinned snowflake himself that this is “fake news” Which will pretty much confirm that this is true. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12173 "2017-10-11T19:58:25Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [B-Rabbit drops the mic, your turn Papa Dick!](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/entertainment/eminem-storm-full-lyrics/index.html) I’ve just become an Eminem fan. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12174 "2017-10-11T20:00:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > No riding in the royal carriage. I’d suggest substituting a garbage truck, but I didn’t mean to say that Donald Dotard’s mode of conveyance should be _hauling_ garbage. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12175 "2017-10-11T20:03:04Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I’d suggest substituting a garbage truck, but I didn’t mean to say that Donald Dotard’s mode of conveyance should be _hauling_ garbage. “We have a huge bullet proof limo for you. Of course you can ride in back” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12176 "2017-10-11T20:21:15Z")
Vanity Fair: [“I HATE EVERYONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!”: TRUMP SEETHES AS ADVISERS FEAR THE PRESIDENT IS “UNRAVELING”](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12177 "2017-10-11T20:29:31Z")
Eminem kicks absolute ass with The Storm. He even used “orange” in a rhyme. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12178 "2017-10-11T20:34:53Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Eminem kicks absolute ass with The Storm. He even used “orange” in a rhyme. The talk on the cable news channels is along the lines of ‘this isn’t going to help the anti-Trump side because Eminem has so many problems himself, such as lyrics about committing rape.’ But they’re ignoring the fact that there’s substantial overlap between Eminem’s fans and dedicated Trump-worshipers. This development has the potential to actually burst some confirmation-bias bubbles, or at least stretch them beyond their usual dimensions. It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if some Trump-worshipers were forced to actually _think_ a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12179 "2017-10-11T20:42:32Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Vanity Fair: [“I HATE EVERYONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!”: TRUMP SEETHES AS ADVISERS FEAR THE PRESIDENT IS “UNRAVELING”](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers) From the linked article: > [@](#): > > Several months ago, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation, former chief strategist Steve Bannon told Trump that the risk to his presidency wasn’t impeachment, but the 25th Amendment—the provision by which a majority of the Cabinet can vote to remove the president. When Bannon mentioned the 25th Amendment, Trump said, “What’s that?” According to a source, Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30 percent chance of making it the full term. Steve Bannon, who helped engineer Trump’s victory and legislative agenda, thinks Trump has only a 30% chance of finishing his term. It’s almost like Bannon wanted an unstable lunatic in the White House as a way of dismantling American democracy. Nah, couldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12180 "2017-10-11T20:51:17Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > From the linked article: > > Steve Bannon, who helped engineer Trump’s victory and legislative agenda, thinks Trump has only a 30% chance of finishing his term. It’s almost like Bannon wanted an unstable lunatic in the White House as a way of dismantling American democracy. Nah, couldn’t be. Not that he’s on record actually saying that or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12181 "2017-10-11T20:52:16Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > From the linked article: > > Steve Bannon, who helped engineer Trump’s victory and legislative agenda, thinks Trump has only a 30% chance of finishing his term. It’s almost like Bannon wanted an unstable lunatic in the White House as a way of dismantling American democracy. Nah, couldn’t be. [Nah, couldn’t be.](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency) I know the above New Yorker article about the Mercers has been posted on the forum before, and likely even in this thread. But it is such a worthwhile read (or re-read) if you want to get a handle on how we came to this miserable state of affairs. As **Sherrerd** recently and perfectly observed in his post #12063 in this thread, “Those people ain’t wired up right.” ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12182 "2017-10-11T20:56:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Vanity Fair: [“I HATE EVERYONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!”](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers) Once again, president Stupid Head and I reluctantly agree on something. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12183 "2017-10-11T20:56:30Z")
When you’re [losing Rush Limbaugh](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354985-limbaugh-trumps-comments-on-nfl-starting-to-make-me-nervous), things ain’t going well. _“There’s a part of this story that’s starting to make me nervous, and it’s this: I am very uncomfortable with the president of the United States being able to dictate the behavior and power of anybody. That’s not where this should be coming from,” Limbaugh said on his show._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=608) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=610)