# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 627
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12524 "2017-10-18T21:28:21Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that President Trump’s chief of staff is “disgusted” that the death of his son has become politicized — even though it was Trump who thrust the Marine’s death into the political glare.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/white-house-decries-politicized-death-of-chief-of-staffs-son-which-trump-thrust-into-the-spotlight/?utm_term=.7190e3c90191) Article said Trump “cleared it” with Kelly before bringing it up. What? Like retroactively?.. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12525 "2017-10-18T21:35:55Z")
How much more doublethink will SHS spout until she’s had enough? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12526 "2017-10-18T21:42:39Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Congresswoman Wilson also says that Trump didn’t even know Sgt. Johnson’s name, but kept referring to him as “your guy”. Which Sanders confirmed today during the Press Briefing. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12527 "2017-10-18T21:47:36Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > They just simply _feel_ like he is delivering on his MAGA master plan. He is. Of course, to him and them, MAGA means Make America the Grand Wizard’s Again. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12528 "2017-10-18T22:05:56Z")
[Relatives of recently deceased military personnel coming forward with stories of no contact from the CINC.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-obama-trump-gold-star-family-members-reactions/) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12529 "2017-10-18T22:51:44Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > …“How many of you give much credibility to the woman who walks around with a rhinestone cowboy hat that looks like it came from Dolly Parton’s costume closet?”… Also, doesn’t her demographic love Dolly? (Everyone should; the woman’s amazing. But I’d expect Ms. Parton to be more popular among conservative republicans than among the population in general.) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12530 "2017-10-18T22:55:03Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > How much more doublethink will SHS spout until she’s had enough? She appears to have an unlimited ability to lie through her teeth. Zero conscience or feeling of remorse about doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12531 "2017-10-18T22:59:03Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > She appears to have an unlimited ability to lie through her teeth. Zero conscience or feeling of remorse about doing so. You can always tell a whopper is coming when she looks down at her podium and then looks back up with that left eyebrow arched. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, that’s sure. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12532 "2017-10-18T23:00:00Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > She appears to have an unlimited ability to lie through her teeth. Zero conscience or feeling of remorse about doing so. She learned her brand of Christianity from her dad, ol’ Mike. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12533 "2017-10-18T23:03:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > You can always tell a whopper is coming when she looks down at her podium and then looks back up with that left eyebrow arched. I would expect Aidy Bryant to have noticed that too. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12534 "2017-10-18T23:09:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I would expect Aidy Bryant to have noticed that too. LOL, I’ll have to catch that one of these days. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12535 "2017-10-18T23:10:35Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Relatives of recently deceased military personnel coming forward with stories of no contact from the CINC.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-obama-trump-gold-star-family-members-reactions/) Easy enough to check. I believe White House keeps a record of all calls made and received by the President. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12536 "2017-10-19T00:47:51Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > How much more doublethink will SHS spout until she’s had enough? > [@QuickSilver](#): > > She appears to have an unlimited ability to lie through her teeth. Zero conscience or feeling of remorse about doing so. ok I’m really getting fed up with her now and suggest she’s replaced by Liz [“cupcakes look uh-_ma_-zing”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-UTas_cpQc) G. They both have those sensual bovine lips that are ideal for countering all that fake MSM news. I’m sure SHS is big on cupcakes too. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12537 "2017-10-19T01:47:08Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s definitely Coulter. > > Ingraham is arguing that Trump isn’t crazy. Coulter is arguing that Trump isn’t crazy enough. It’s kind of sad that this reminded me of the Trumpcare debate. 30 million Americans didn’t lose healthcare, only because some Republicans were worried the cuts were a \*little too extreme, and some other Republicans were adamant that the cuts weren’t extreme \*enough. This is the world we’re living in now. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12538 "2017-10-19T02:34:17Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Article said Trump “cleared it” with Kelly before bringing it up. What? Like retroactively?.. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump intentionally did it to goad Kelly in hopes that he might get the general to quit. He apparently hates the military discipline that’s been imposed in his White House, and he’s just that much of a fucking reptile that he really has no sense of decency or sacredness. All of this right wing shit fest over Colin Kaepernick disrespecting the flag, and yet here we have a president lies like a goddamn adulterer Pinnochio trying to cover up a tryst and not a word. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12539 "2017-10-19T04:33:38Z")
Wilson said she hoped President Shitstain didn’t treat the other three families the same way. I think there’s a good chance he didn’t, because the other three soldiers were white. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12540 "2017-10-19T04:57:42Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > One would think that his inept handling of the Niger war dead would give pause to his die-hard base. But it will not in the slightest. > [@](#): > > Neera Tanden, president of the left-leaning Center for American Progress, tweeted hyperbolically on Wednesday: “We had about 4000 Benghazi hearings. Why isn’t there a single one on the deaths of soldiers in Niger?” > > Joy Reid, national correspondent for MSNBC, echoed these sentiments: “Where are all the Benghazi obsessives now that we have lost four special forces troops in Niger? Anyone? Hearings? Any interest at all?” To even imagine that an (R) might be treated like a (D) in such a case shows gross ignorance of GOP amorality and America’s psychological collapse. If you asked Republicans to assign blame for the Zibougu Massacre, at least 38% would click “All of the blame lies on Obama and Clinton.” Even though there’s no such place as Zibougu. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12541 "2017-10-19T05:06:54Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > To even imagine that an (R) might be treated like a (D) in such a case shows gross ignorance of GOP amorality and America’s psychological collapse. > > If you asked Republicans to assign blame for the Zibougu Massacre, at least 38% would click “All of the blame lies on Obama and Clinton.” Even though there’s no such place as Zibougu. Agreed. Responding to obsessive Benghazi chants by pointing out that there were 20 fatal attacks on U.S. embassies under Bush’s administration, not to mention 9/11, are generally just met with rants about “those damn Muslims” or pivoting to unrelated criticisms of the other guys; not any reflection on what, if anything, made Benghazi a scandal worth investigating for 8 years. ^ Longest run-on sentence I’ve ever made without trying, but too lazy to fix it. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12542 "2017-10-19T06:33:33Z")
I certainly have no problem with your slightly long but very apt sentence, **Mr. Proofreader**. You’re in good company: > [@Charles Darwin](#): > > In this chapter I have attempted to show, that the subordination of group to group in all organisms throughout all time; that the nature of the relationship, by which all living and extinct beings are united by complex, radiating, and circuitous lines of affinities into one grand system; the rules followed and the difficulties encountered by naturalists in their classifications; the value set upon characters, if constant and prevalent, whether of high vital importance, or of the most trifling importance, or, as in rudimentary organs, of no importance; the wide opposition in value between analogical or adaptive characters, and characters of true affinity; and other such rules; — all naturally follow on the view of the common parentage of those forms which are considered by naturalists as allied, together with their modification through natural selection, with its contingencies of extinction and divergence of character. > [@Reverend Martin Luther King](#): > > But when you have seen vicious mobs lynch your mothers and fathers at will and drown your sisters and brothers at whim; when you have seen hate-filled policemen curse, kick and even kill your black brothers and sisters; when you see the vast majority of your twenty million Negro brothers smothering in an airtight cage of poverty in the midst of an affluent society; when you suddenly find your tongue twisted and your speech stammering as you seek to explain to your six year-old daughter why she can’t go to the public amusement park that has just been advertised on television, and see tears welling up in her eyes when she is told that Funtown is closed to colored children, and see ominous clouds of inferiority beginning to form in her little mental sky, and see her beginning to distort her personality by developing an unconscious bitterness toward white people; when you have to concoct an answer for a five year old son who is asking: “Daddy, why do white people treat colored people so mean?”; when you take a cross-country drive and find it necessary to sleep night after night in the uncomfortable corners of your automobile because no motel will accept you; when you are humiliated day in and day out by nagging signs reading “white” and “colored”; when your first name becomes “nigger,” your middle name becomes “boy” (however old you are) and your last name becomes “John,” and your wife and mother are never given the respected title “Mrs.”; when you are harried by day and haunted by night by the fact that you are a Negro, living constantly at tiptoe stance, never quite knowing what to expect next, and are plagued with inner fears and outer resentments; when you are forever fighting a degenerating sense of “nobodiness” — then you will understand why we find it difficult to wait. (Admittedly, Dr. King closed this letter with the observation “I can assure you that [this letter] would have been much shorter if I had been writing from a comfortable desk …”) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12543 "2017-10-19T09:37:36Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > Holy Crap! You’ve just given me an insane idea (‘soooo crazy, it just might work!’) > > _Dolly Parton_ for president 2020. > > Seriously: > > - A celebrity. Apparently that works pretty well these days > - Appeals to rednecks. So there’s some of the MAGA crowd right there > - A woman, so you can re-run ‘lets have the first woman president’ again for those of us who are keen on that sort of thing > - _Actually a decent human being_. Believes in social development in poor areas of her state. Does actual things with her wealth to combat poverty. You can keep that under wraps in the campaign if it doesn’t play well though… That is sheer genius. Dolly is beloved by both left and right alike, and Dollywood is the only place in the country where the religious right and drag queens intersect in peaceful (if temporary) co-existence. And she expanded her Imagination Library to the UK not all that long ago, so she’s even got international experience. Hell, _I_ would consider voting for Dolly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=626) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=628)