# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 629
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12565 "2017-10-19T20:08:02Z")
Trump has announced he will not be visiting the fire damage in California. I would have thought that it was because California voted for Hillary, except that Puerto Rico didn’t even vote. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12566 "2017-10-19T20:08:27Z")
[Spin control from the Chief of Staff](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html): > [@](#): > > Mr. Kelly said that Mr. Trump had tried, in the call, to express what Mr. Kelly had talked to him about ahead of time — that people like her husband were doing what they loved, and what they had chosen to do, when they were killed serving the country. Hey, Kelly, your boss is President Mushmouth. What the fuck did you think would happen? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12567 "2017-10-19T20:24:28Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Spin control from the Chief of Staff](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html): Hey, Kelly, your boss is President Mushmouth. What the fuck did you think would happen? **Talking points for President Trump’s visit to Maple Elementary, 10/23/17:** [ul][del]How much you love children[/del][/ul] [ul][del]Excited to see the student body embracing science so passionately[/del][/ul] [ul][del]From the mouths of babes[/del][/ul] [ul]Inauguration was [del]huge[/del] [del]biggest ever[/del] really really nice[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12568 "2017-10-19T20:27:41Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > … Old guys may be viable presidents, in terms of physically being alive at least. I think you’re proving that presidents are viable old guys, not the reverse. And General Kelly should quit polishing his medals, saddle, glasses, and shoes. When honor is tarnished, nothing should glitter nor gleam. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12569 "2017-10-19T20:31:22Z")
That George W, a man who knows clusterfucks, has to come out and say this is taking clusterfucking way too far, is frightening. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12570 "2017-10-19T20:45:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump has announced he will not be visiting the fire damage in California. I would have thought that it was because California voted for Hillary, except that Puerto Rico didn’t even vote. Maybe someone told him that PR can’r vote so it’s not entirely their fault. Why would he visit California, there’s no golf courses in the burned areas. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12571 "2017-10-19T21:59:51Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [43 calls out 45 for Russia connections and emboldening racists.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/bush-freedom-event/index.html) I liked how they chose to end the article: > [@George W. Bush](#): > > Bullying and prejudice in our public life sets a national tone, provides permission for cruelty and bigotry, and compromises the moral education of children. The only way to pass along civic values is to first live up to them. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12572 "2017-10-19T21:59:58Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [43 calls out 45 for Russia connections and emboldening racists.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/bush-freedom-event/index.html) I’d never thought that Bush II could become something of a respected older statesman, I found him to be a joke and a pawn of his cronies mostly back then, but this deserves my respect. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12573 "2017-10-19T22:01:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > WHAT?? > > Where have you been?😕 > > Donald Trump NEVER APOLOGIZES. He has said so. Because he is never wrong. He has said this, too. > > [Cite](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-to-jimmy-fallon-i-never-apologize-because-im-never-wrong/) OF COURSE, I know that Trump will never do what I described which is why he’s not fit to be Commander in Chief. Because the situation calls for humility. Which is the opposite of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12574 "2017-10-19T22:30:55Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Spin control from the Chief of Staff](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html): Hey, Kelly, your boss is President Mushmouth. What the fuck did you think would happen? I’m petty sure Kelly did not expect “He knew the job was dangerous when he took it” to fall out of The Howling Yam’s mouth when talking to a war widow…or any widow. It’s not the sort of thing any adult human would say in that specific instance. “You knew the job was dangerous when you took it” is what you say to your buddy when his 5 year-old is insistent on having a birthday party at Chuck E Cheese’s. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12575 "2017-10-19T22:48:20Z")
I’m going to have to step away from the Trump threads until the “He knew the job was dangerous when he took it” thing dies down. I’m starting to hear the Superchicken theme song every time I see it, now. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12576 "2017-10-19T23:37:45Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > … I’m starting to hear the Superchicken theme song every time I see it, now. Well, thanks a lot. Now that’s what I hear, too. Kinda makes it better. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12577 "2017-10-19T23:39:44Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > That George W, a man who knows clusterfucks, has to come out and say this is taking clusterfucking way too far, is frightening. He at least kept his clusterfucks within normal human parameters. I never thought I’d say that. Dear Self in 2003: Shrubya’s not the worst President you’ll ever see by a long, long shot. It can and will get worse. Love, Self in 2017 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12578 "2017-10-19T23:58:34Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Hey, Kelly, your boss is President Mushmouth. What the fuck did you think would happen? He will probably tell you he has learned that it sure gets cold after the rain falls. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12579 "2017-10-20T00:14:23Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [43 calls out 45 for Russia connections and emboldening racists.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/bush-freedom-event/index.html) Trying to think of преЦАРдент Trump comebacks, along the lines of “very very bad George Bush - a republican, now a traitor”, “I can paint way better than him”. > [@Folacin](#): > > SHS is a piece of crap for working for a piece of crap, but let’s keep the fat jokes out of it. I’m sure there were some fat jokes about SMS (interesting how close those initials are), but not near as many (and Sean is at least as big as Sarah). I wouldn’t consider SHS fat (bovine-mouthed, yeah, but not a blimp). “cupcakes” could have been interchangeable with anything vapid and useless - “crocs”, “sparkle make-up”, “Nutella”, and the link just so happened to provide something vapid and useless. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Why would he visit California, there’s no golf courses in the burned areas. He probably just associates Cali. with Hollywood, which in turn reminds him of his failed “Apprentice” gong show. It hurts.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12580 "2017-10-20T00:28:19Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Trying to think of преЦАРдент Trump comebacks, along the lines of “very very bad George Bush - a republican, now a traitor”, “I can paint way better than him”. “… an entire apartment in one afternoon. Two coats!” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12581 "2017-10-20T00:28:41Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > I’m petty sure Kelly did not expect “He knew the job was dangerous when he took it” to fall out of The Howling Yam’s mouth when talking to a war widow…or any widow. This is a guy who has immense difficulty staying on message even when reading from a TelePrompter. Advise him what to say then hand him a phone? Ain’t no way he’s coming close to saying what was in that advice, might even say the complete opposite, and Kelly should have known that. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12582 "2017-10-20T00:38:16Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “… an entire apartment in one afternoon. Two coats!” “You should see my Melania series…Misplaced them somewhere, but believe me, folks, they were hot!” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12583 "2017-10-20T01:26:55Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Dear Self in 2003: > > \*\*Shrubya’s not the worst President you’ll ever see by a long, long shot. It can and will get worse. \*\* > > Love, > Self in 2017 It’s mind-blowing, isn’t it? Every day the bar moves lower too. It’s like dancing the limbo in Hell. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/12584 "2017-10-20T02:27:36Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > He [George W] at least kept his clusterfucks within normal human parameters. > > I never thought I’d say that… This is the main thing. Prior to Trump, even presidents that we loved to hate were NORMAL human beings. Trump is not a normal president, and he is not a normal person. I believe his die-hard supporters know this about him and it’s precisely what they like about him, namely, the anarchy and chaos that he generates. What bugs me are the people (some of them on this board) who act like Trump IS normal, or that he’s operating just this side of normal, even if he sometimes comes close to the edge. Like Kelly’s [del]excuse[/del] statement about Trump and “[the soldier] knew what he was getting into.” That’s not anything that a normal person with a normal amount of empathy and compassion would say in that situation. To try to normalize it is just wrong. When Trump comes to Christmas dinner at the White House with his underpants on his head, his die-hards will cheer because they want him to stick it to decorum and trash the rules of civility. But the borderline supporters will make some stupid excuse and act like it’s a perfectly normal thing to do. And he commits these stupid crazy acts several times each day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=628) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=630)