# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13065 "2017-11-01T18:26:29Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> [Silver spoon, entitled asshole Trump jr.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/01/donald-trump-jr-twitter-daughter-chloe-halloween-socialism-tweet) is whining about socialism on Twitter. Poor boy. Cashing fat checks from Daddy must be a strain. **I hope that whole goddamn awful family ends up in prison.** …

So do I. So say w all.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13066 "2017-11-01T18:47:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I guess it turns out Herman Cain was wrong - the president _does_ need to know about U-Beki-Beki-Beki-Stan-Stan.

[Uzbeks](https://youtu.be/8hCCCRAcTAA)

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13067 "2017-11-01T18:49:25Z")

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> [@Blank Slate](#):
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> ```
> Originally Posted by **Blank Slate** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/images/SultanThemeVB3R/buttons/viewpost.gif](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20574885#post20574885) 				
> *[Silver spoon, entitled asshole Trump jr.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/01/donald-trump-jr-twitter-daughter-chloe-halloween-socialism-tweet) is whining about socialism on Twitter. Poor boy. Cashing fat checks from Daddy must be a strain. **I hope that whole goddamn awful family ends up in prison.**...
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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> So do I. So say we all.

So say we all.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13068 "2017-11-01T19:33:12Z")

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In a photo op today, Trump said he would “consider” sending the NY truck-driver terrorist suspect to Guantanamo.

Apparently, NY jails and the federal justice system aren’t working.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13069 "2017-11-01T19:39:41Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> In a photo op today, Trump said he would “consider” sending the NY truck-driver terrorist suspect to Guantanamo.
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> Apparently, NY jails and the federal justice system aren’t working.

I can’t imagine it would be a tough case to prosecute.

Even a Trump-appointed prosecutor should be able to do it.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13070 "2017-11-01T20:16:57Z")

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[Get ready for the Cut, Cut, Cut Act!](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-hill-leaders-disagree-upcoming-tax-reform-bill/story?id=50863220)

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> President Donald Trump has told senior congressional leaders that he wants to name the forthcoming tax overhaul bill “the Cut Cut Cut Act,” two senior administration officials told ABC News.
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> \<snip\>
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> The sources said it has been decided that the Ways and Means Committee will have the final say over the name.
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> Ryan initially kicked the naming over to Trump because of his knack for branding, according to a senior Hill aide.
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> Trump has been insistent that the bill be called the Cut Cut Cut Act, according to the administration officials.
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> Ryan and Brady have pushed back on the name of the bill. However, Trump has held firm.

It’s like when a family gets a puppy and decides to let the four-year-old name it. That’s a risky move.

I’m not sure which part of the story is the most cringe worthy:  
[ol]  
[li]Apparently the President of the United States has only a trivial role in major tax legislation;[/li][li]The President of the United States thinks the Cut Cut Cut Act is a good name;[/li][li]Congressional Republicans are acting like everything is perfectly normal.[/li][/ol]

I guess we can be thankful it won’t be named the Trump Act.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13071 "2017-11-01T20:19:44Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> [Get ready for the Cut, Cut, Cut Act!](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-hill-leaders-disagree-upcoming-tax-reform-bill/story?id=50863220)

Spelled with a “K” of course.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13072 "2017-11-01T20:23:53Z")

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I was hoping for the Cutty McTaxFace Act.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13073 "2017-11-01T20:25:48Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Spelled with a “K” of course.

_slow clap_

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13074 "2017-11-01T20:35:19Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> It’s like when a family gets a puppy and decides to let the four-year-old name it.

What else would you expect from one who admits to having the mentality of a grade-schooler?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13075 "2017-11-01T20:36:51Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I can’t imagine it would be a tough case to prosecute.
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> Even a Trump-appointed prosecutor should be able to do it.

Trump-appointed proseuctors are the best. You won’t believe how good they are. They’re the most amazing people in the world, trust me.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13076 "2017-11-01T20:44:16Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Spelled with a “K” of course.

> [@Greathouse](#):
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> _slow clap_

I guess Trump has never heard the expression “too on the nose”.

“Cut cut cut” isn’t a dog whistle. That’s a freakin’ bullhorn.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13077 "2017-11-01T20:44:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> In a photo op today, Trump said he would “consider” sending the NY truck-driver terrorist suspect to Guantanamo. …

For Trump, the information that might be gained from this guy–contacts and influences still out there working to produce more terrorists and terrorist acts–is valueless. What _counts_ is that Trump look like Mr. Tough Guy.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13078 "2017-11-01T21:03:21Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> In a photo op today, Trump said he would “consider” sending the NY truck-driver terrorist suspect to Guantanamo.
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> Apparently, NY jails and the federal justice system aren’t working.

The whole point of sending foreign nationals apprehended outside the US to Guantanamo is to avoid having US Constitutional protections apply to them (although some still do). If the guy is already in the US, most of those rights already apply.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13079 "2017-11-01T21:03:45Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I guess Trump has never heard the expression “too on the nose”.
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> “Cut cut cut” isn’t a dog whistle. That’s a freakin’ bullhorn.

_und am Kai geht Mackie Messer   
der von allem nichts gewußt_

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13080 "2017-11-01T21:08:00Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The whole point of sending foreign nationals apprehended outside the US to Guantanamo is to avoid having US Constitutional protections apply to them (although some still do). If the guy is already in the US, most of those rights already apply.

Why would they care if the rights apply? There is exactly zero chance a jury would acquit this guy. Are they just upset they can’t torture him?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13081 "2017-11-01T21:15:04Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Why would they care if the rights apply? There is exactly zero chance a jury would acquit this guy. Are they just upset they can’t torture him?

Trump surely doesn’t know the legal rationale of why Guantanamo exists. He just knows it’s a Very Bad Place to send bad hombres.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13082 "2017-11-01T23:20:17Z")

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Please excuse the aside, but authorities said the asshole “acted in the name of the self-described Islamic State and had been planning the attack for several weeks.” wtf requires planning in such an attack?

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13083 "2017-11-02T00:39:57Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Please excuse the aside, but authorities said the asshole “acted in the name of the self-described Islamic State and had been planning the attack for several weeks.” wtf requires planning in such an attack?

This has baffled me since 2001. If the terrorists are as thick on the ground as the Republican allege, why aren’t there 50 such attacks a day? Since these people seem to have no problem with getting caught or even killed when they carry out attacks, it would be absolutely impossible to stop them.

Anybody could take a couple of handguns into a movie theater and kill a dozen or so people in less than 30 seconds. He could probably even get away in the darkness and confusion if he just stood by an exit door when he did it. He could go into a crowded bus or nightclub or subway car or shopping mall, and kill a dozen people before anybody knew what was happening. He could take a scenic drive through our beautiful western forests in the summertime, tossing out molotov cocktails every 20 miles or so, and start forest fires that would tie up our National Guard for weeks, if not months, and destroy millions of dollars worth of property. He could take a shotgun on the same trip and shoot out long-distance power lines in remote areas, causing blackouts hundreds of miles away.

And none of this would take any planning, coordination, or access to unusual resources. It would take five minutes on Google maps to find a route for the drive just described. Thanks to the Republicans, it’s easier to buy a gun than to rent a car, and I doubt there is any location in any decent-sized city that is more than ten minutes away from a soft target full of people.

So, if there are thousands or millions of bad hombres in the US wanting to kill us, why are there only two or three attacks per year?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13084 "2017-11-02T00:48:04Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> So, if there are thousands or millions of bad hombres in the US wanting to kill us, why are there only two or three attacks per year?

Because we’re being lied to.

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