# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 657
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13125 "2017-11-02T20:19:34Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Maybe Stan Lee is in charge of recruiting and hiring… Beat me to it. ☹ CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13126 "2017-11-02T20:20:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Maybe Stan Lee is in charge of recruiting and hiring… Can’t wait for the next press briefing by Green Goblin. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13127 "2017-11-02T20:34:30Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Maybe Stan Lee is in charge of recruiting and hiring… Either that or Trump gets his views on personnel hiring from comic books. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13128 "2017-11-02T20:48:56Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > That’s assuming this guy isn’t just some dumb shit that was actually acting on his own but swore allegiance to ISIS without any contact with them. Even if he had no official contacts with official ISIS members, he will have been influenced to do what he did by online conversations and by what he found on certain websites, and possibly by in-person acquaintances or associates. It’s worth knowing what “works” to convince someone to commit these murders. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13129 "2017-11-02T20:56:07Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Unclear at the moment. > > [https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/926161097463345158](https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/926161097463345158) It’s unclear whether he nixed it or just thought it should be nixed. I don’t believe it was unclear that Sessions was aware of Papadopoulos contacting Russia. Which, just being aware, makes him a liar in front of congress during sworn testimony. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13130 "2017-11-02T21:00:51Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > It’s unclear whether he nixed it or just thought it should be nixed. I don’t believe it was unclear that Sessions was aware of Papadopoulos contacting Russia. Which, just being aware, makes him a liar in front of congress during sworn testimony. So perhaps this will be the ultimate defense of many T. Administration denizens, regarding the perjury charges that (we will learn) can be brought against them: You let Sessions get away with it! So how can you prosecute ME? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13131 "2017-11-02T21:12:28Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Weird alliterations I just noticed > > The Whitehouse mouthpiece is **S** arah **S** anders > Who replaced **S** ean **S** picer in that position > Whose boss, the communications director, is **H** ope **H** icks > > Certainly nothing there. But it creeps me out. I saw it as SS, SS, HH. It makes sense with our Nazi-loving yam. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13132 "2017-11-02T21:30:17Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I saw it as SS, SS, HH. It makes sense with our Nazi-loving yam. Yes, **that** was what was creeping me out. But then I consoled myself that the chief of staff and the minister of graft are both j/k. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13133 "2017-11-02T21:39:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Can’t wait for the next press briefing by Green Goblin. Can;t - he’s already the COS. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13134 "2017-11-02T21:46:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Yes, **that** was what was creeping me out. But then I consoled myself that the chief of staff and the minister of graft are both j/k. Ivanka & Jared Kushner - IJK ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13135 "2017-11-02T22:18:05Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Maybe Stan Lee is in charge of recruiting and hiring… That would explain a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13136 "2017-11-02T22:49:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Even if he had no official contacts with official ISIS members, he will have been influenced to do what he did by online conversations and by what he found on certain websites, and possibly by in-person acquaintances or associates. > > It’s worth knowing what “works” to convince someone to commit these murders. Have you considered that you might have this reversed? My thought is that he had already decided to kill, but was looking for something, anything to use as an excuse. That doesn’t sound rafional, of course. And that’s because the killer is irrational. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13137 "2017-11-02T23:33:38Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Sounded odd to me, too. I could buy that the Washington _Times_ was fond of Trump, but not the _Post_. He must have meant the Washington Times. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13138 "2017-11-03T00:17:27Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > It’s unclear whether he nixed it or just thought it should be nixed. I don’t believe it was unclear that Sessions was aware of Papadopoulos contacting Russia. Which, just being aware, makes him a liar in front of congress during sworn testimony. Carter Page just testified to congress that he told Sessions he was traveling to Russia for campaign business. That’s three people, including Sessions himself, that claim Sessions lied under oath. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13139 "2017-11-03T00:41:36Z")
Letter from Franken to Sessions: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7iIRjahNvNcUXMxazhmcTR0c3c/view?ICID=ref\_fark](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7iIRjahNvNcUXMxazhmcTR0c3c/view?ICID=ref_fark) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13140 "2017-11-03T02:44:50Z")
In tonight’s [sit-down with Fox News](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trump-admits-he-has-certain-anger-at-the-media-after-lambasting-the-media-for-reporting-hes-angry/), Loser Donald shows how far he’s slipping by claiming that his tax plan has been universally acclaimed, that “the wall” is ahead of schedule, that the immigration legislation he hasn’t proposed yet is about to be signed into law, says it’s fake news that he’s angry at anyone, and then declares ten seconds later that he’s angry with the media. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13141 "2017-11-03T02:57:00Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Letter from Franken to Sessions: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7iIRjahNvNcUXMxazhmcTR0c3c/view?ICID=ref\_fark](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7iIRjahNvNcUXMxazhmcTR0c3c/view?ICID=ref_fark) Holy shit, that looks very long and important! Can’t wait to hear Sessions ignore it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13142 "2017-11-03T02:59:49Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Carter Page just testified to congress that he told Sessions he was traveling to Russia for campaign business. That’s three people, including Sessions himself, that claim Sessions lied under oath. I can’t be the only one thinking that this is fixed to get Sessions fired and replaced with an AG willing to fire Mueller, can I? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13143 "2017-11-03T03:02:42Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I can’t be the only one thinking that this is fixed to get Sessions fired and replaced with an AG willing to fire Mueller, can I? Sessions is out of the way already. Remember, he recused himself. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is the one who either fires Mueller or takes the honorable way out. Then it’s a matter of working down the chain until you find a toady _cough_ Bork! _cough_ willing to do the deed. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13144 "2017-11-03T03:06:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Sessions is out of the way already. Remember, he recused himself. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is the one who either fires Mueller or takes the honorable way out. > Then it’s a matter of working down the chain until you find a toady _cough_ Bork! _cough_ willing to do the deed. Yes, but Sessions’ replacement would not be recused. He or she could fire Mueller. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=656) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=658)