# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1301 "2017-02-15T08:29:39Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Dude, you’re delusional.

Or a troll. It’s insane that it’s no longer possible to lay odd on which is most likely.

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**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1302 "2017-02-15T08:38:30Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Or a troll. It’s insane that it’s no longer possible to lay odd on which is most likely.

Delusional liberals here that march in lockstep also laughed, mocked and claimed that I was delusional when I wrote that Trump would win more than a year ago. We all know how that worked out.

Their credibility, along with much of the MSM has worn out a long time ago, and that credibility is now hanging on for dear life.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1303 "2017-02-15T08:58:20Z")

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Thanks for that. Smart money’s now on troll.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1304 "2017-02-15T10:17:01Z")

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Don’t let Blinky hijack this thread. Once you start engaging with him, the whole thing will go off the rails like other threads have done.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1305 "2017-02-15T11:11:30Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Holy fucking shit.
> 
> [Is it just me, or is this latest sort of a big deal:](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/donald-trump-aides-russians-campaign/index.html)
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> Several of Trump’s closest advisors had contacts with senior Russian government officials, including intelligence officials, both before and right after the election. This includes Flynn and Manafort, and others. US intelligence recorded these calls, as they were monitoring the Russians.
> 
> OK. So Trump KNEW that Flynn in particular was in contact with Russian government officials before the election, and right after the election. He KNEW THIS before the inauguration. He was TOLD THIS in a briefing by US security officials.
> 
> YET HE STILL MADE FLYNN THE NATIONAL FUCKING SECURITY ADVISOR. **And then let Pence go out and lie about it.**
> 
> WHAT.  
> THE.  
> HELL.
> 
> How is this defensible, by anyone, anytime, even if they do try to put party before country?

The bolded part is why I wonder if Pence will be the next President. He might get dragged down in this whirlpool as well. (Lord, I’m not a prayin’ cat but if you can do this one thing for me…)

Also, wasn’t Manafort fired from the campaign due to his Russian contacts? _sigh_

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1306 "2017-02-15T13:03:51Z")

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[Relax, Trump is Stone-Cold Sane](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/15/relax-trump-is-stone-cold-sane.html)

> [@Dr. Keith Ablow](#):
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> Anecdotally, by the way, I have never had one bad Trump experience. Not one. I own several of his ties — all of them of the highest quality. I have stayed in his hotels and never had a single complaint (and I am a born complainer). I have eaten in his New York restaurant — flawless service, excellent food. I own an apartment at Trump Place in Manhattan. Impeccable design, sturdy construction, fabulous amenities. A mentally unstable man would be unlikely to deliver superior products across multiple industries, don’t you think?

The most amazing thing about this is how The Onion has spoofed Fox News’s url.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1307 "2017-02-15T13:18:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Stephen Miller, senior White House policy adviser]  
our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial _ **and will not be questioned** _.  
[/QUOTE]

Any examples of similar diction from any White House in the pre-Trump Era?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1308 "2017-02-15T13:48:43Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> [Relax, Trump is Stone-Cold Sane](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/15/relax-trump-is-stone-cold-sane.html)
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> The most amazing thing about this is how The Onion has spoofed Fox News’s url.

Wow. That article would be really great satire.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1309 "2017-02-15T13:52:07Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Any examples of similar diction from any White House in the pre-Trump Era?

What color is the Kremlin? Reichstag? Imperial Star Cruiser?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1310 "2017-02-15T13:53:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Republican Rep. Chris Collins says his party’s members are silent over the resignation of Michael Flynn[because they’re celebrating Valentine’s Day with their wives](http://billingsgazette.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/collins-gop-silent-because-of-valentine-s-day/html_28268bfd-5386-5754-9e5c-d4f5bf4c6ca5.html).

Mistresses, more likely, but whatever. 😉

> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Thanks for that. Smart money’s now on troll.

Unquestionable troll. You can actually believe what you say and still be a troll.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1311 "2017-02-15T14:02:25Z")

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Remember all those people who said they didn’t want to deal with the endless drama of having the Clintons back in the White House?

If only.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1312 "2017-02-15T14:03:12Z")

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If you can’t ignore blinkerbrains, can you at least stop quoting him in your replies? You’re just giving him more attention.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1313 "2017-02-15T14:05:05Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Remember all those people who said they didn’t want to deal with the endless drama of having the Clintons back in the White House?
> 
> If only.

Good one! 😃

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1314 "2017-02-15T15:56:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The most amazing thing about this is how The Onion has spoofed Fox News’s url.

so scary that it doesn’t make any difference - Fox? The Onion? whatever

rump is SANE because reasons\*! :dubious:

\*he has the love and respect of his wife and kids made me LOL

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1315 "2017-02-15T16:05:34Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Good one! 😃

Thanks! Not completely original, but I like to think I improved on the tweet I saw that had the basic gist of this. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1316 "2017-02-15T16:08:19Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> \*he has the love and respect of his wife and kids made me LOL

Yeah, _his money_ has the love and respect of his wife and kids. 😃

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1317 "2017-02-15T16:22:46Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Unquestionable troll. You can actually believe what you say and still be a troll.

…Aren’t you a moderator? Couldn’t you, in theory, _solve_ this problem?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1318 "2017-02-15T16:31:53Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> …Aren’t you a moderator? Couldn’t you, in theory, _solve_ this problem?

Other than spammers, bans are generally a group thing.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1319 "2017-02-15T16:46:45Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> …Aren’t you a moderator? Couldn’t you, in theory, _solve_ this problem?

Like insults, a degree of trolling is tolerated in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1320 "2017-02-15T17:05:26Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> so scary that it doesn’t make any difference - Fox? The Onion? whatever
> 
> rump is SANE because reasons\*! :dubious:
> 
> \*he has the love and respect of his wife and kids made me LOL

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Yeah, _his money_ has the love and respect of his wife and kids. 😃

He can’t be insane because people love him?

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