# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 668
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13345 "2017-11-08T20:10:13Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … > He was setting himself up to be the worlds biggest attention whore troll, who would make headlines with outrageous accusations against the government, leading a bunch of rubes who would fill his pockets. And instead he is… oh, wait… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13346 "2017-11-08T20:11:42Z")
No, I did in fact mean the Shitgibbon. Max Bialystok was the beefy Broadway guy in _The Producers_ who seized upon the idea of raking in the dough from a failed play. Which I think sums up the situation. We are supposed to support our president, whosoever it might be, but if our president’s [del]apparent[/del] obvious goal is failure, rooting for him to fail (at failure) seems appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13347 "2017-11-08T20:22:04Z")
So, this “exciting news” we were promised was just a bunch of prattle about trying to correct the trade deficit with China? I suppose a resignation _was_ way too much to hope for. ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13348 "2017-11-08T21:25:43Z")
Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13349 "2017-11-08T21:30:00Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad That’s a low bar–the end of the world. I’ll grant you he has not yet ended the world. Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13350 "2017-11-08T21:43:06Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad You guess incorrectly. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13351 "2017-11-08T21:44:08Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad EXACTLY what we’ve been saying for over 260 pages now! We’re all very impressed. ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13352 "2017-11-08T21:46:26Z")
Excellent, glad we are all on the same page. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13353 "2017-11-08T21:53:22Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad The Trump regime is actually collapsing a lot faster than I expected. So far, so bad. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13354 "2017-11-08T21:53:26Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Michael Lewis (“The Blind Side”, “The Big Short”) has written a series of articles for Vanity Fair on how the Trump Administration managed the transition, and staffed, the Executive Branch – focusing primarily on Agriculture and Energy. > > He’s making the interview rounds; [here’s a transcript of his appearance on Fresh Air](https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=562246599). It’ll make you weep. > [@Max\_Torque](#): > > [Here’s one of the _Vanity Fair_ articles](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/usda-food-stamps-school-lunch-trump-administration), so you can get the long-form version. Insanity. This is a long quote, but it’s only a fraction of the article: And here’s my favorite quote from the NPR interview (with my emphasis): > [@](#): > > We know nothing yet. I mean, the question is - it’s very hard to see what they’re doing now. I mean, it’s still early days. And the sad truth is that you could put someone who is wholly unqualified into that job, and the society wouldn’t feel the effects for a very long time because the kind of research that’s being done is research in - is research that will pay off 30 years from now or 40 years from now. > > So this is to me - there’s a theme in the sort of risks that the Trump administration are taking by putting people who are not suited for jobs into the jobs. And one of the themes is that they’re - \*\*a willingness to tax the distant future for the political present because the distant future really doesn’t have a voice at the table. > \*\* ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13355 "2017-11-08T21:54:03Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Ok, AF1 will be landing in Danang for President Bialystok’s meeting with his Puppetmaster. This is just way too much cog-dis for me. More cognitive dissonance: Trump restricts travel & trade with Cuba just before going to Vietnam. We normalized relations with a nation that killed thousands of Americans and kept POWs in horrid conditions but we simply can’t have normalized relations with Cuba [del]because NObama was the one who tried to normalize them[/del]. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13356 "2017-11-08T21:58:41Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > More cognitive dissonance: Trump restricts travel & trade with Cuba just before going to Vietnam. We normalized relations with a nation that killed thousands of Americans and kept POWs in horrid conditions but we simply can’t have normalized relations with Cuba [del]because NObama was the one who tried to normalize them[/del]. :rolleyes: You have to remember that AFAIK the Vietnamese didn’t nationalize any American holdings. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13357 "2017-11-08T21:58:52Z")
> [@thestake](#): > > excellent, glad we are all on the same page. {{{group hug!!!}}} ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13358 "2017-11-08T22:01:58Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > … we simply can’t have normalized relations with Cuba [del]because NObama was the one who tried to normalize them[/del]. :rolleyes: Well, obviously. Because that other guy was never the legitimate president. Shitgibbon was _in Kenya_, just the other day, so he knows it for a fact. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13359 "2017-11-08T22:07:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Well, obviously. Because that other guy was never the legitimate president. Shitgibbon was _in Kenya_, just the other day, so he knows it for a fact. Yeah, I agree…this has nothing to do with finances or diplomacy; our Cuba policy is driven entirely by anti-Obama spite. I think it was the Daily Show…when Trump announced his new de-normalization of Cuba relations, they put up a photo-shopped picture of a Trump campaign rally with a supporter holding a sign that read “MAKE IT HARDER FOR US TO TRAVEL TO CUBA!” ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13360 "2017-11-08T22:15:31Z")
Just being Americans in general I’d think we would want him to succeed. He is the potus. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13361 "2017-11-08T22:23:24Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Just being Americans in general I’d think we would want him to succeed. He is the potus. It depends on your definition of “success”. For Trump to succeed in implementing his agenda, it would mean destruction of everything about this country that I hold dear. For him to “succeed” in what I consider a President’s job, it would mean he would become something other than Trump…and that’s not likely. So I want him to fail so badly that his term ends as quickly as possible. Failing that, I want him to be completely stymied in everything he does, so his 4 years do as little damage as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13362 "2017-11-08T22:25:51Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad Really? Trump was supposed to end the whole world within a year?! I’ll grant that the Trump administration has fucked up a lot since he took office, but he’s got a helluva lot of inertia to overcome to pull that off, don’t ya think? The world has been pretty well established for some time. Just how much can he possibly accomplish in a year’s time through inaction and ineffectual “leadership”? He talks a big game, but he’s not having a whole lot of success. He needs to try harder. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13363 "2017-11-08T22:35:11Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > … I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad Trump’s not going to bed? Whuh? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13364 "2017-11-08T22:39:48Z")
Your wasting your fingers. \*\*TheStake \*\*is one of those “lib’rul tears” guys from election night. And I gotta say, after last night I don’t get the love for the taste of tear drops. Conservative tears taste like battery acid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=667) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=669)