# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13365 "2017-11-08T22:42:40Z")

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Well I never. I was just seeing how the general vibe was. I think he hasn’t screwed up anything yet and feel that maybe feelings for him might have changed a tad

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13366 "2017-11-08T22:43:59Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Your wasting your fingers. \*\*TheStake \*\*is one of those “lib’rul tears” guys from election night. And I gotta say, after last night I don’t get the love for the taste of tear drops. Conservative tears taste like battery acid.

What about Loser Donnie’s [historic victory](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/fox-ignores-dem-wins-and-celebrates-trumps-historic-victory-by-playing-highlights-from-2016-election-night/)? :dubious:

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> Fox & Friends on Wednesday empaneled a group of voters to relive President Donald Trump’s “historic victory” instead of acknowledging Tuesday’s huge win for Democrats.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13367 "2017-11-08T22:56:08Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Just being Americans in general I’d think we would want him to succeed. He is the potus.

I general, I do, but specifically, I want him to take a fuckin’ hike before he does something we can’t recover from.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13368 "2017-11-08T22:58:00Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Well I never. I was just seeing how the general vibe was. I think he hasn’t screwed up anything yet and feel that maybe feelings for him might have changed a tad

Where have you been since January…Ganymede? Trump has screwed up a lot already. One glaringly obvious thing is his Muslim ban along with his reactioin to the courts correctly restricting that.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13369 "2017-11-08T22:58:09Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Just being Americans in general I’d think we would want him to succeed. He is the potus.

No, because Republican policies are awful and should not be put into practice.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13370 "2017-11-08T23:20:34Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Well I never. I was just seeing how the general vibe was. I think he hasn’t screwed up anything yet and feel that maybe feelings for him might have changed a tad

Totally. I feel he’s becoming more intelligent, handsome and eloquent with each passing day. I bet he couldn’t put a foot wrong even if he tried. And is it just me, or does he look like he’s loosing weight?!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13371 "2017-11-08T23:23:04Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> What about Loser Donnie’s [historic victory](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/fox-ignores-dem-wins-and-celebrates-trumps-historic-victory-by-playing-highlights-from-2016-election-night/)? :dubious:

Best part of that link:  
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Within minutes, the panel devolved into a shouting match about whether NFL players should be allowed to kneel during the National Anthem.\*

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13372 "2017-11-08T23:32:06Z")

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> [@John\_Bredin](#):
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> More cognitive dissonance: Trump restricts travel & trade with Cuba just before going to Vietnam. We normalized relations with a nation that killed thousands of Americans and kept POWs in horrid conditions but we simply can’t have normalized relations with Cuba [del]because NObama was the one who tried to normalize them[/del]. :rolleyes:

I agree about Cuba and Obama, but your observation about Vietnam is ridiculous.

The Vietnamese “killed thousands of Americans” because those same Americans prevented democratic elections, supported a corrupt and unpopular puppet government in the South, invaded their nation, destroyed its countryside and infrastructure, and killed somewhere around one to two million of their people.

America shouldn’t just normalize relations with Vietnam; it should pay massive reparations.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13373 "2017-11-08T23:43:43Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> And here’s my favorite quote from the NPR interview (with my emphasis):

That does say it all. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13374 "2017-11-08T23:45:29Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Well I never. I was just seeing how the general vibe was. I think he hasn’t screwed up anything yet and feel that maybe feelings for him might have changed a tad

Did you at least bring pie?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13375 "2017-11-09T00:15:23Z")

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Don’t let the troll derail the thread. It’s what they do when they lose.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13376 "2017-11-09T00:17:02Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Where have you been since January…Ganymede?

Under a bridge, rather obviously.

Trump really has had the idiot troll demographic sewed up from the start (unsurprisingly).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13377 "2017-11-09T00:40:48Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Just being Americans in general I’d think we would want him to succeed. He is the potus.

But his goal is to make the USA into a third-world client state of Putin’s USSR ver 2.0.  
Why would any American want THAT project to succeed?

You know, unless they hated America as much as that fuckstick does.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13378 "2017-11-09T01:16:40Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Don’t let the troll derail the thread.

Hey we have had a master troll feeding this thread for over 13K posts, with a skill that **TheStake** could only dream of imagining.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13379 "2017-11-09T01:21:53Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Well I never. I was just seeing how the general vibe was. I think he hasn’t screwed up anything yet and feel that maybe feelings for him might have changed a tad

Yes… A tad. His poll numbers have been steadily dropping, dropping, dropping. RCP numbers (poll conglomerater) from 46% approval in Feb to 38% approval now. Historically low approval numbers for any president. Republicans and independents are the ones shifting their opinion. Trump is losing support among every single group.

But of course, this is “liberal math”

You sad little trolling muppet.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13380 "2017-11-09T01:25:24Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Hey we have had a master troll feeding this thread for over 13K posts, with a skill that **TheStake** could only dream of imagining.

\<Checks **Happy Lendervedder** ’s post count…\>  
Hey, **HL** , I think **eschereal** is calling you out.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13381 "2017-11-09T02:36:23Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> …he’s losing weight?!

OMG! I thought it was just ME! I think his ass looks just like a RIPE PEACH.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13382 "2017-11-09T02:44:54Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad

:spit take:

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13383 "2017-11-09T02:58:38Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Well it’s been some time now, so I decided to check in with you guys. Seems the world hasn’t ended yet. I guess maybe Trump’s not doing to bad

Without trying to sound like a glib douche as hard as you can, enumerate in point form exactly how he’s not doing too bad.

> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> This is truly the The Producers administration. It even has stupid nazis!

_Springtime, for Donald, and the alt riiiiiiiiiiiight,  
Grabbing, as much pussy, as he caaaaaaaan,  
He’s marching, to, a, FAS-ter pace,_  
Look out, here comes, the, MAS-ter race!\*\*

\*other than the pronoun, I figured - fuck it - why bother changing those lyrics?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13384 "2017-11-09T05:38:07Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Well I never. I was just seeing how the general vibe was. I think he hasn’t screwed up anything yet and feel that maybe feelings for him might have changed a tad

Not really. Trump remains somewhere between a complete laughingstock and a serious threat worldwide. The main areas where he’s seen any success in his agenda is worsening the culture war. The government is being staffed by incompetent ideologues and there’s [serious rot](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis) going on beneath the surface. It’s probably a good thing that the Trump administration failed to repeal Obamacare, but he’s still been leaning very hard on sabotage. It has not been a good year.

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