# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 675
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13485 "2017-11-12T18:04:46Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > We went from a Black president to an orange one ! That is historic but not in a good way. It’s all about colors with you, isn’t it? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13486 "2017-11-12T20:28:31Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > So the guy who picked Sarah Palin to be his veep thinks Trump is unfit to be President. Palin at least had been a state governor, and hadn’t been proclaiming her unfitness for the office for two years via Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13487 "2017-11-12T22:39:08Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Palin at least had been a state governor, and hadn’t been proclaiming her unfitness for the office for two years via Twitter. Did you ever think you’d see the day when we’d be saying “Sarah Palin wasn’t the \*absolute \*bottom of the barrel”? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13488 "2017-11-12T22:59:08Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Did you ever think you’d see the day when we’d be saying “Sarah Palin wasn’t the \*absolute \*bottom of the barrel”? I was trying to think how to phrase that. Just nine years ago Palin’s blatant unsuitability helped cost McCain the election. That someone immeasurably less qualified won at the top of the ticket, when his inadequacy was obvious from the beginning, just shows how far we have fallen. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13489 "2017-11-12T22:59:48Z")
Am I the only Naomi Klein fan here? I consider her an intellectual but [in this video from April](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mxExkIVw-c) she plays agitator, advocating ways to diminish Trump’s wealth. Spread the word! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13490 "2017-11-12T22:59:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I was trying to think how to phrase that. > > Just nine years ago Palin’s blatant unsuitability helped cost McCain the election. That someone immeasurably less qualified won at the top of the ticket, when his inadequacy was obvious from the beginning, just shows how far we have fallen. QFT ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13491 "2017-11-13T00:09:52Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Just nine years ago Palin’s blatant unsuitability helped cost McCain the election. You give her too much weight. Tundra Barbie was a skinny little plastic thing who was only marginally relevant. The biggest players in that election were the markets, vastly overshadowing any glimmer of a hope that old Wetstart might have had. The economic outlook of the public is the primary decider in elections. Whenever it goes the other way, there have been shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13492 "2017-11-13T01:53:31Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Did you ever think you’d see the day when we’d be saying “Sarah Palin wasn’t the \*absolute \*bottom of the barrel”? Donald Trump has forced more recalibration than Lord Kelvin. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13493 "2017-11-13T01:57:11Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Donald Trump has forced more recalibration than Lord Kelvin. That was cold. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13494 "2017-11-13T02:04:59Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That was cold. Absolutely so. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13495 "2017-11-13T02:09:07Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Palin at least had been a state governor, and hadn’t been proclaiming her unfitness for the office for two years via Twitter. > [@Catamount](#): > > Did you ever think you’d see the day when we’d be saying “Sarah Palin wasn’t the \*absolute \*bottom of the barrel”? I’ve been thinking for some time that THAT particular barrel, in defiance of all known physical laws, _has_ no bottom. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13496 "2017-11-13T02:12:16Z")
We will inevitably, eventually reach the Republican Singularity, but it might take forever. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13497 "2017-11-13T08:13:18Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I’ve been thinking for some time that THAT particular barrel, in defiance of all known physical laws, _has_ no bottom. It’s shitgibbons all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13498 "2017-11-13T14:33:42Z")
[Here’s a good recent documentary on the Trumpsterfuck.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY) Among other things we learn that the spelling-predictor on your smartphone will produce more coherent speech than the tired neurons operating the Trumpster-brain. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13499 "2017-11-13T16:54:44Z")
[Trump is really draining that swamp; yes he is!](https://apnews.com/1dbf0153e4b046bf9549871bd088745d/Trump-names-former-drug-exec-as-new-health-secretary) > [@](#): > > Turning to an industry he’s rebuked, President Donald Trump on Monday picked a former top pharmaceutical and government executive to be his health and human services secretary, overseeing a $1 trillion department responsible for major health insurance programs, medical research, food and drug safety, and public health. > > The nomination of Alex Azar is unusual because HHS secretaries have tended to come from the ranks of elected officials such as governors, leaders in academia and medicine, or top executive branch managers — not industries regulated by the department. > > “He will be a star for better healthcare and lower drug prices!” Trump tweeted in announcing the nomination Monday morning. > [@](#): > > Azar admirers say Azar’s drug industry experience should be considered an asset, not a liability. > > “To the extent that the Trump administration has talked about lowering drug prices, here’s a guy who understands how it works,” said Tevi Troy, who served with Azar in the Bush administration and now leads the American Health Policy Institute, a think tank focused on employer health insurance. > > “Would (Azar) have been better off if he had been meditating in an ashram after serving as deputy secretary?” asked Troy. Maybe, but _we_’d definitely be better off if had spent the time lowering drug prices instead of raising them. I think the GOP voters should have made sure they knew what Trump meant when he said he’d “drain the swamp”, because it sure seems to mean something different than most people thought. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13500 "2017-11-13T17:08:23Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Trump is really draining that swamp; yes he is!](https://apnews.com/1dbf0153e4b046bf9549871bd088745d/Trump-names-former-drug-exec-as-new-health-secretary)Maybe, but _we_’d definitely be better off if had spent the time lowering drug prices instead of raising them. > > I think the GOP voters should have made sure they knew what Trump meant when he said he’d “drain the swamp”, because it sure seems to mean something different than most people thought. Maybe they misunderstood, and what he really said (or meant) was “Swamping the Drain”. If you swamp the drain, it backs up, and your swamp gets bigger, and thrives. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13501 "2017-11-13T17:40:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I think the GOP voters should have made sure they knew what Trump meant when he said he’d “drain the swamp”, because it sure seems to mean something different than most people thought. What are you talking about? He’s doing exactly what his voters want him to do. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13502 "2017-11-13T18:16:25Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > What are you talking about? He’s doing exactly what his voters want him to do. True… and when THEY are drowning in the enlarged swamp they’ll just blame Obama and Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13503 "2017-11-13T18:20:10Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Trump is really draining that swamp; yes he is!](https://apnews.com/1dbf0153e4b046bf9549871bd088745d/Trump-names-former-drug-exec-as-new-health-secretary)Maybe, but _we_’d definitely be better off if had spent the time lowering drug prices instead of raising them. > > I think the GOP voters should have made sure they knew what Trump meant when he said he’d “drain the swamp”, because it sure seems to mean something different than most people thought. He meant “Training the Swamp”. We just misheard him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13504 "2017-11-13T18:24:00Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I think the GOP voters should have made sure they knew what Trump meant when he said he’d “drain the swamp”, because it sure seems to mean something different than most people thought. Oh, come on, you have to skim it first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=674) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=676)