# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 676
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13505 "2017-11-13T18:37:12Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > We will inevitably, eventually reach the Republican Singularity, but it might take forever. If you mean the worst possible President, you’re there. Trump isn’t as bad as everyone thinks. He’s far worse. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13506 "2017-11-13T18:42:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If you mean the worst possible President, you’re there. Trump isn’t as bad as everyone thinks. He’s far worse. This raises the question: what would it take to be worse? It’s hard to come up with criteria. More bellicose? Not sure that’s possible. More in the pocket of a hostile power? Less intelligent? Lazier? More ill-mannered? Less empathy for others? Try as I might, I can’t conceive how anyone beats him on any aspect of the race to the bottom. I can’t think of any politician who exhibits any single character trait worse than his. SO I have to concur, this is as bad as it can possibly get. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13507 "2017-11-13T18:42:07Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If you mean the worst possible President, you’re there. Trump isn’t as bad as everyone thinks. He’s far worse. Hear, hear. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13508 "2017-11-13T18:44:25Z")
Jeez, feels weird actually giving Mitch McConnell something called…um…credit, here? Feels that Roy Moore should [get outta Dodge](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/13/i-believe-the-women-mcconnell-calls-on-moore-to-step-aside-over-report-he-had-sexual-contact-with-14-year-old.html). Meanwhile the gun-totin’ creep is filing suit against WaPo for their allegations against him. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13509 "2017-11-13T19:16:07Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > This raises the question: what would it take to be worse? It’s hard to come up with criteria. More bellicose? Not sure that’s possible. More in the pocket of a hostile power? Less intelligent? Lazier? More ill-mannered? Less empathy for others? Try as I might, I can’t conceive how anyone beats him on any aspect of the race to the bottom. I can’t think of any politician who exhibits any single character trait worse than his. SO I have to concur, this is as bad as it can possibly get. Please don’t let Trump think of that as a challenge. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13510 "2017-11-13T19:18:02Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Jeez, feels weird actually giving Mitch McConnell something called…um…credit, here? > Feels that Roy Moore should [get outta Dodge](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/13/i-believe-the-women-mcconnell-calls-on-moore-to-step-aside-over-report-he-had-sexual-contact-with-14-year-old.html). > > Meanwhile the gun-totin’ creep is filing suit against WaPo for their allegations against him. No chance he follow through with that. He knows better than anybody that discovery will not be kind to him. He’s just following the Trump playbook of threatening suits you never actually file. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13511 "2017-11-13T19:18:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > True… and when THEY are drowning in the enlarged swamp they’ll just blame Obama and Hillary. That’s exactly what will happen. Is happening. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13512 "2017-11-13T19:22:25Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Jeez, feels weird actually giving Mitch McConnell something called…um…credit, here? > Feels that Roy Moore should [get outta Dodge](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/13/i-believe-the-women-mcconnell-calls-on-moore-to-step-aside-over-report-he-had-sexual-contact-with-14-year-old.html). > > Meanwhile the gun-totin’ creep is filing suit against WaPo for their allegations against him. I don’t believe that Moore has any intention of suing the Washington Post over that story. Ninja’d as usual. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13513 "2017-11-13T19:55:06Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > This raises the question: what would it take to be worse? It’s hard to come up with criteria. More bellicose? Not sure that’s possible. More in the pocket of a hostile power? Less intelligent? Lazier? More ill-mannered? Less empathy for others? Try as I might, I can’t conceive how anyone beats him on any aspect of the race to the bottom. I can’t think of any politician who exhibits any single character trait worse than his. SO I have to concur, this is as bad as it can possibly get. You could be worse, but you’d be removed via the 25th Amendment and then you wouldn’t be worse anymore. Trump is staggeringly corrupt, stupid, and emotionally unstable, but he manages to control himself enough to convince the Republicans he’ll give them what they want. Trump is the first President ever who actually does not care about the United States or its people. You cannot theoretically be worse than that. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13514 "2017-11-13T20:15:14Z")
We haven’t yet gone to war with NoKo or Iran because of a late night rage. That’s something that could plausibly make him worse. Or as a distraction from Mueller, if that gets bad for him. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13515 "2017-11-13T20:23:51Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Jeez, feels weird actually giving Mitch McConnell something called…um…credit, here? > Feels that Roy Moore should [get outta Dodge](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/13/i-believe-the-women-mcconnell-calls-on-moore-to-step-aside-over-report-he-had-sexual-contact-with-14-year-old.html). > > Meanwhile the gun-totin’ creep is filing suit against WaPo for their allegations against him. No credit to McConnell for a coldly calculated political decision. The Republicans best shot at holding that seat is to get Moore out and a strong write in campaign going, ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13516 "2017-11-13T20:24:35Z")
I attribute that more to a grasp of reality on the part of DPRK and Iranian leadership - a desire not to be nuked, and a lack of trust that the button can be kept away from his stubby little fingers. “Diplomacy is the art of saying ‘Nice doggy’ while you search for a stick.” Well, they’re telling Trump “Nice doggy”. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13517 "2017-11-13T20:36:27Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > No credit to McConnell for a coldly calculated political decision. The Republicans best shot at holding that seat is to get Moore out and a strong write in campaign going, ASAP. I realise Democrat Doug Jones probably would’ve taken Moore in their Dec. 12 election because of this scandal, but I’m just so sick of seeing Reps left right and centre either defending or equivocating on Moore, so this news is a slightly refreshing change, for once. ETA: Sure, there have been other anti-Moore Reps, like Comstock and Curbelo, but nowhere near enough of them. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13518 "2017-11-13T20:44:00Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > No credit to McConnell for a coldly calculated political decision. The Republicans best shot at holding that seat is to get Moore out and a strong write in campaign going, ASAP. No, that will just split the vote - some fairly large % (10-20 IMHO) are going to vote for Moore no matter what, because they believe that a good man is being smeared by the leftists and the establishment. That rolls Jones right into office (something to be sincerely hoped and worked for). ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13519 "2017-11-13T20:53:27Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > No, that will just split the vote - some fairly large % (10-20 IMHO) are going to vote for Moore no matter what, because they believe that a good man is being smeared by the leftists and the establishment. Some percentage would vote for Moore never having heard about the scandal or that there was a write-in campaign. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13520 "2017-11-13T21:07:44Z")
This guy has become Orange Freddy. We were setting up a blast shield to deal with an attack when I saw a flash off to the left and said “it’s over there”. But it was not a bomb going off, it was a flare from a silo. And then there were so many missiles launching that the air was haboob-grey from all the smoke and dust. I think the general anxiety is getting to me – he is invading my dreams now. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13521 "2017-11-13T21:22:01Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This guy has become Orange Freddy. We were setting up a blast shield to deal with an attack when I saw a flash off to the left and said “it’s over there”. But it was not a bomb going off, it was a flare from a silo. And then there were so many missiles launching that the air was haboob-grey from all the smoke and dust. I think the general anxiety is getting to me – he is invading my dreams now. Ya know, this gives me an idea: if he’s still alive and not President someday, I bet Trump could star in a new set of _Phantasm_ movies, in place of Angus Scrimm. His character could even be called The Orange Man, and all he’d have to do is leer creepily and slur a handful of words of dialogue for each movie. I bet they could even just CG in his voice convincingly, using a few samples of incoherent gibberish as a starting point for their algorithm. He’d be convincingly and confusingly terrifying in the low-budget-but-still-works way that the franchise is built on, IMO. I’m a huge fan of the _Phantasm_ movies and Don Coscarelli and I think this… um… Waitaminnit… WHAT IF WE’RE IN A IRL PHANTASM AND TRUMP REALLY IS THE ORANGE MAN??? :eek: ffs everyone: keep your eyes peeled for any weird zombie dwarves running around near Trump! ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13522 "2017-11-13T22:07:29Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He meant “Training the Swamp”. We just misheard him. Bigly. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13523 "2017-11-13T23:33:44Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > [Trump judge nominee, 36, who has never tried a case, wins approval of Senate panel](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-judge-nominee-36-who-has-never-tried-a-case-wins-approval-of-senate-panel/ar-BBEOWih?li=BBnb7Kz) > > Gorammit, this should piss everyone off. I get that you want to nominate people who support your views. And I get that the Senate would want to approve someone that supported their views on this or that. But are you telling me that they could not find one lawyer \*who actually tried a case \*who could fit that bill??? For Fuck’s sake, are you kidding me??? [Trump Judicial Pick Did Not Disclose He Is Married to a White House Lawyer](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-judicial-pick-did-not-disclose-he-is-married-to-a-white-house-lawyer/ar-BBEVtty) Not only unqualified, but then lies on a standard form to disclose possible conflicts of interest. Which is either dishonest or stupid. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13524 "2017-11-14T00:18:42Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > … Which is either dishonest or stupid. Or both. IOW eminently qualified to serve in this administration. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=675) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=677)