# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13765 "2017-11-25T06:52:34Z")

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Nah, Trump uses “I got a call ftom someone” the same way an Audi Murphy movie character used “I read in a book…”. The Murphy character was completey illiterate, and, well, you already know about Trump.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13766 "2017-11-25T13:59:16Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Given the Psychology of Trumps, initially made it up, almost immediately came to believe it.

And then he tells the story and his Trumpniks believe it. If he believes it and his deplorables believe it, that’s all that matters. They live in their own little world of Trump’s creation.

I’ll bet if you survey hard core Trump supporters about this and actually read them the statement from TIME about how how they pick PoftheY, they’ll say TIME is lying because they’re embarrassed that Trump turned them down.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13767 "2017-11-25T21:08:45Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Nah, Trump uses “I got a call ftom someone” the same way an Audi Murphy movie character used “I read in a book…”. The Murphy character was completey illiterate,

Destry? What gave you that idea?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13768 "2017-11-25T21:10:33Z")

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As a former Person of the Year, I can confirm that I did not receive a request for an interview nor a photo shoot.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13769 "2017-11-25T21:52:37Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> As a former Person of the Year, I can confirm that I did not receive a request for an interview nor a photo shoot.

I’ve never been Person of the Year, and yet they call me up for an interview and photo shoot all the time.  
ETA: Hmmm, wait, that may be just them trying to get me to buy a subscription.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13770 "2017-11-25T22:08:30Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I’ve never been Person of the Year, and yet they call me up for an interview and photo shoot all the time.  
> ETA: Hmmm, wait, that may be just them trying to get me to buy a subscription.

> **[You (Time Person of the Year)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_(Time_Person_of_the_Year))**
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> "You" was the official choice for Time's Person of the Year in 2006. The magazine set out to recognize the millions of people who anonymously contribute user-generated content to websites such as YouTube, MySpace, Facebook, Wikipedia and other wikis, and the multitudes of other websites featuring user contribution.
> While the status had been given before to inanimate objects, with the personal computer being the "Machine of the Year" for 1982, as well as collections of people or an abstract re...

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13771 "2017-11-25T22:35:27Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> As a former Person of the Year, I can confirm that I did not receive a request for an interview nor a photo shoot.

OMG!!! Mighty Girl is George W. Bush!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13772 "2017-11-25T22:36:40Z")

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Too funny. No way.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13773 "2017-11-26T05:24:51Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I’ve never been Person of the Year, and yet they call me up for an interview and photo shoot all the time.  
> ETA: Hmmm, wait, that may be just them trying to get me to buy a subscription.

What are you? 11?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13774 "2017-11-26T05:27:07Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> OMG!!! Mighty Girl is George W. Bush!!! 😃

I am not. As proof I offer that I am a lousy painter.

Oh, wait…

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13775 "2017-11-26T06:09:13Z")

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I believe Mighty\_Girl is referencing how she, like each of us, was Person of the Year in 2006 (“You,” alluding to the internet’s democratization of “published” content, from YouTube videos to TripAdvisor ratings).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13776 "2017-11-26T11:59:18Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> I am not. As proof I offer that I am a lousy painter.
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> Oh, wait…

You…you didn’t REALLY just confess to being Hitler, did you? :eek:

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13777 "2017-11-26T13:31:04Z")

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Trump and his time on the golf course. (CNN! Fake News!) Boy oh boy Republicans sure have suddenly decided not to give a shit how much time the pres. spends on the golf course. Lordy, for the life of me I sarcastically can’t figure why.

> **[Trump could be on track to triple Obama's time on the golf course | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/25/politics/trump-golfing-record/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump could be on track to spend as much as triple the time former President Barack Obama did on the golf course in his first year in office -- and to play more than former President George W. Bush did in eight years in office.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13778 "2017-11-26T13:57:51Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Trump and his time on the golf course. (CNN! Fake News!) Boy oh boy Republicans sure have suddenly decided not to give a shit how much time the pres. spends on the golf course. Lordy, for the life of me I sarcastically can’t figure why.
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/25/politics/trump-golfing-record/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/25/politics/trump-golfing-record/index.html)

Maybe because he’s distracted on the golf course and it’s hard for him to do [del]any[/del] as much bad Presidentin’ there.

Oh, you probably meant that, right?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13779 "2017-11-26T14:04:57Z")

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Hey, people have died on golf courses, right? Let’s encourage the orange twerp to spend even more time golfing, to increase the odds.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13780 "2017-11-26T14:05:32Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Trump and his time on the golf course. (CNN! Fake News!) Boy oh boy Republicans sure have suddenly decided not to give a shit how much time the pres. spends on the golf course. Lordy, for the life of me I sarcastically can’t figure why.
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/25/politics/trump-golfing-record/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/25/politics/trump-golfing-record/index.html)

It’s not just the time on the course, it’s the cost of traveling _every_ weekend. Remember how Trump and the GOP bitched about the cost of Obama’s travel?  
Trump is up to over [81 million](http://trumpgolfcount.com/) at this point, Obama spent [106 million](https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/judicial-watch-total-obama-travel-costs-so-far-106-million) in eight years.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13781 "2017-11-26T14:38:57Z")

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Boy, what could be the difference there? I’m sure it’s something black and white, but I’m drawing a blank.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13782 "2017-11-26T16:13:08Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Boy, what could be the difference there? I’m sure it’s something black and white, but I’m drawing a blank.

So you’re implying something about him without actually knowing what it is? Well, that’s low of you… one might almost describe it as niggardly.

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**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13783 "2017-11-26T16:29:01Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It’s not just the time on the course, it’s the cost of traveling _every_ weekend. Remember how Trump and the GOP bitched about the cost of Obama’s travel?  
> Trump is up to over [81 million](http://trumpgolfcount.com/) at this point, Obama spent [106 million](https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/judicial-watch-total-obama-travel-costs-so-far-106-million) in eight years.

According to your second cite, Trump has cost taxpayers only 7.5 million as of Sept 17. Tbere’s a big difference between 81 million and 7.5 million. They must be measuring different things and therefore are useless to compare.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13784 "2017-11-26T16:34:49Z")

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> According to your second cite, Trump has cost taxpayers only 7.5 million as of Sept 17. Tbere’s a big difference between 81 million and 7.5 million. They must be measuring different things and therefore are useless to compare.

Yeah, The same source([Judicial Watch](https://www.judicialwatch.org/)) that estimated Obama’s costs suddenly decided that Trump has far fewer costs for the same travel.

The first cite I gave uses the numbers Judicial Watch used for Obama to estimate Trump’s costs.

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