# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 692
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13825 "2017-11-28T02:45:25Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Pocahontas was a Navajo? Huh. Learn something new every day. Trump wouldn’t know a Navajo from a member of the [Pontifical Swiss Guard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_Swiss_Guard). Anyway, all Indians [sic] are basically the same, amirite? Not white, Anglo-Saxon/European, and that’s the only distinction that needs to be made. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13826 "2017-11-28T03:00:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Melania’s first attempt at Christmas decor for the White House looks like something out of a horror film > A tweet from her communications director: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/StephGrisham45/status/934945910467031041) Jesus wept. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13827 "2017-11-28T03:14:31Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump wouldn’t know a Navajo from a member of the [Pontifical Swiss Guard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_Swiss_Guard). Anyway, all Indians [sic] are basically the same, amirite? Not white, Anglo-Saxon/European, and that’s the only distinction that needs to be made. :rolleyes: And he wouldn’t know code from white noise. He doesn’t even have much of a clue about the code called “English”. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13828 "2017-11-28T03:40:27Z")
It’s clear that Trump is making bullying and harassment fashionable again. Here we had what we thought was a special occasion on which we hoped that he could just momentarily behave magnanimously, in a manner befitting of the office. And here he finds himself the chief representative of the historically white federal government, juxtaposed against a group of people who’ve served this country admirably whilst suffering greatly at the hands of the white power establishment, and he proceeds to use them as props and uses another Native American figure to taunt a woman. Trump is nothing if not tearing down the boundaries of what is acceptable and decent in public political discourse, and worse, normalizing such juvenile, narcissistic conduct. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13829 "2017-11-28T03:55:39Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Melania’s first attempt at Christmas decor for the White House looks like something out of a horror film > A tweet from her communications director: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/StephGrisham45/status/934945910467031041) It’s obvious that she is is mourning the death of someone. Christmas, Easter… same thing. The Pocahontas remark was, I’m sorry, I can’t even think of the right adjective. He’s said worse, so it’s not the worst thing he’s said. It’s not the most disgraceful thing he’s said. I guess at this point we just chalk it up to one of those incredibly disgraceful, disrespectful, hateful, things he says. I can’t even process what is worse than what anymore. Un-fucking-believeable. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13830 "2017-11-28T04:26:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Melania’s first attempt at Christmas decor for the White House looks like something out of a horror film > A tweet from her communications director: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/StephGrisham45/status/934945910467031041) That’s how they decorate in her native Transylvania. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13831 "2017-11-28T04:35:21Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > That’s how they decorate in her native Transylvania. The one in Transexual? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13832 "2017-11-28T04:39:04Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > That’s how they decorate in her native Transylvania. You’re not far off. Here’s a pic of the interior staircase entrance in the library in Ljubljana, Slovenia, designed by the great Slovenian architect Jose Plecnik: [https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA\_enUS620US620&hl=en-US&biw=1024&bih=653&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=heccWu3RBYjF\_QbJlICoBQ&q=plecnik+library+ljubljana+interior&oq=plecnik+library+ljubljana+interior&gs\_l=mobile-gws-img.3...23654.25307.0.26644.10.10.0.0.0.0.313.1022.7j1j0j1.9.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-img..1.0.0....110.mIaiUatNddI#imgdii=DxfM887nbzJjMM:&imgrc=ie11\_ZTWsPTZMM:](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS620US620&hl=en-US&biw=1024&bih=653&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=heccWu3RBYjF_QbJlICoBQ&q=plecnik+library+ljubljana+interior&oq=plecnik+library+ljubljana+interior&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3...23654.25307.0.26644.10.10.0.0.0.0.313.1022.7j1j0j1.9.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-img..1.0.0....110.mIaiUatNddI#imgdii=DxfM887nbzJjMM:&imgrc=ie11_ZTWsPTZMM:) Look familiar? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13833 "2017-11-28T08:03:12Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > At an event honoring [Navajo code talkers](http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/27/politics/trump-pocahontas-navajo-code-talkers/index.html), Trump referenced “Pocahontas” and said “But you know what, I like you. You are special people.” There’s some additional babbling about who’s been where longer. I, for one, am truly surprised he didn’t double down and insert the word _papoose_ or, worse yet, _squaw_ into his diatribe. > [@](#): > > I can’t speak for all Americans, but I extend my apologies to Native Americans for this president. I didn’t vote for him, but he’s still there, making an ass of himself, and us, every day. I don’t apologize for things that are not my fault. I do, however, agree with you on your description of the moron occupying the White House. > [@](#): > > This has been today’s reminder to vote. Yep! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13834 "2017-11-28T08:06:29Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I, for one, am truly surprised he didn’t double down and insert the word _papoose_ or, worse yet, _squaw_ into his diatribe. He’d have to _know_ those words in order to be able to use them in a hateful manner. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13835 "2017-11-28T09:16:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He’d have to _know_ those words in order to be able to use them in a hateful manner. But he should at least be able to greet them all with “How!” — Even for Trump, that should be simple enough. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13836 "2017-11-28T09:36:19Z")
It’s all good; one of these days he’s gonna deny that it was he who said it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13837 "2017-11-28T09:58:11Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > But he should at least be able to greet them all with “How!” — Even for Trump, that should be simple enough. “How… are you doing? Are you having a good time? I guarantee you Pocahontas would never have asked you that. I was talking to my generals, I said, has any president ever greeted the Indians? And they said to me, Mr. Trump, ten months ago we never would have believed a president would do that. And here I am. Have a good time.” ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13838 "2017-11-28T10:25:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I, for one, am truly surprised he didn’t double down and insert the word _papoose_ or, worse yet, _squaw_ into his diatribe. > > I don’t apologize for things that are not my fault. I do, however, agree with you on your description of the moron occupying the White House. > > Yep! Can’t help but notice that the photo op was in front of the Andrew Jackson portrait. Happy coincidence? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13839 "2017-11-28T11:08:18Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > Can’t help but notice that the photo op was in front of the Andrew Jackson portrait. > > Happy coincidence? > > Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk One wonders if that was an intentional insult or just sheer ignorance on the part of the White House staff. [https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24058870\_1695617007140247\_977833411456607978\_n.jpg?oh=b196bafb6932d846bf89d710782b2916&oe=5AD19546](https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24058870_1695617007140247_977833411456607978_n.jpg?oh=b196bafb6932d846bf89d710782b2916&oe=5AD19546) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13840 "2017-11-28T11:08:20Z")
He probably only has one or two thoughts about Native Americans rattling around in his head, and this is one of them. They’re almost lucky that he didn’t recount his fight against tribal gaming. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13841 "2017-11-28T12:36:04Z")
“I think we can now forget that Custer incident, you did a tremendous job, so it’s not true that only dead Indians are good. I’d say that’s a pretty catching blanket statement. I was never myself at war, but don’t scalp me, 'cause I had those bone spurs, luckily it wasn’t a wounded knee, that would’ve really been a trail of tears…” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13842 "2017-11-28T13:11:55Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Melania’s first attempt at Christmas decor for the White House looks like something out of a horror film > A tweet from her communications director: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/StephGrisham45/status/934945910467031041) A lot of people have been having fun with that image: > **[Spooky White House Christmas Chamber Is Creeping Everyone The Heck Out](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-house-christmas-nightmare_n_5a1d1259e4b04e8b2a83f8dd?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)** > > It's getting compared to everything from "The Shining" to "The Blair Witch Project." ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13843 "2017-11-28T14:51:51Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > Can’t help but notice that the photo op was in front of the Andrew Jackson portrait. > > Happy coincidence? [Even happier.](http://www.gocomics.com/lil-donnie/2017/11/27) ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13844 "2017-11-28T15:13:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > In fairness, that one shot doesn’t tell the whole story. Check out this [slide show.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-unveils-christmas-white-slideshow-wp-145220833/photo-p-white-house-christmas-tree-photo-145220250.html)The hall of branches looks quite stylish under brighter lighting. You’re right, but this isn’t HuffPost coming up with the most unflattering shot to publish. This is the FLOTUS communication director choosing that shot, despite all options. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=691) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=693)