# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 695
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13885 "2017-11-29T14:52:45Z")
> [@TomMaker](#): > > Trump is oonly one tough on the immigration invasion He’s also the only one who will fight off the gremlins in your hubcaps along with all the other imaginary beasts you come up with. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13886 "2017-11-29T14:53:47Z")
> [@TomMaker](#): > > it is a fraud > they found 12 points of fraud on his bc List them you gutless, vile, cowardly scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13887 "2017-11-29T15:42:25Z")
The certificate’s font is Helvetica 12pt, and the entire certificate is a lie, so, well, study it out. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13888 "2017-11-29T16:42:00Z")
> [@TomMaker](#): > > it is a fraud > they found 12 points of fraud on his bc **Tom** , I know you are new around here, but even in the Pit there are standards of evidence for claims by posters. Poorly-produced YouTube videos (which one would only know about if one happened to stumble on your other thread on the subject) do not meet that standard. You have made a couple of assertions, without any concrete evidence; now, how about making an actual argument? Also, you might want to remind yourself of the actual topic of the thread. This is about the Trump administration and its general incompetence, not a re-litigation of Birtherism. I politely suggest this might be better discussed in another thread. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![pieceoftheuniverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@pieceoftheuniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pieceoftheuniverse)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13889 "2017-11-29T17:58:05Z")
Trump administration, you say? General incompetence, you say? Look no further than yesterday’s [“Myth vs Fact” statement from the FCC](http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1128/DOC-347961A1.pdf) (warning: PDF) on net neutrality. As near as I can tell, they swapped the word “myth” for “fact” and vice versa, as that’s the only way that it lines up with reality. There’s only one citation in the entire document to back up their claims, and even that one doesn’t back up the claim established in the “fact”. Ironically, the document they link to shows how previous administrations’ released “Fact sheets”: approximately every statement has a footnote referring to some citation, so the reader can verify the data. I might give some leeway to the idea that this is an “unofficial” document from the head of the FCC, if it didn’t sound like a propaganda piece directly from the Ministry of Truth. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13890 "2017-11-29T18:09:30Z")
Wow, I wasn’t aware of all the bad things that came from “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” Good thing they mentioned “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” a few times so that I could grasp the full unbiased results of “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13891 "2017-11-29T18:48:44Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > And you think Trump would give two shits about that because … My concern would be that, under the rationale of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, Trump would warmly embrace the Libyan slave traders. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13892 "2017-11-29T19:00:44Z")
Is there a rogue FCC twitter account like the National Parks has? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13893 "2017-11-29T19:02:29Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Wow, I wasn’t aware of all the bad things that came from “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” Good thing they mentioned “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” a few times so that I could grasp the full unbiased results of “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13894 "2017-11-29T19:58:31Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Wow, I wasn’t aware of all the bad things that came from “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” Good thing they mentioned “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” a few times so that I could grasp the full unbiased results of “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” Sorry… I didn’t quite get that. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13895 "2017-11-29T20:44:57Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Wow, I wasn’t aware of all the bad things that came from “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” Good thing they mentioned “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” a few times so that I could grasp the full unbiased results of “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” This is obviously why this **tomaker** is trolling the birth certificate: Obama held the office illegally, so anything done under his administration is invalid. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13896 "2017-11-29T21:51:28Z")
Reviving bin Laden is gonna be a mean trick. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13897 "2017-11-29T21:56:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Reviving bin Laden is gonna be a mean trick. And they gotta plug the holes. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13898 "2017-11-29T23:04:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And they gotta plug the holes. Talk about leaks! ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13899 "2017-11-29T23:13:13Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Wow, I wasn’t aware of all the bad things that came from “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” Good thing they mentioned “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” a few times so that I could grasp the full unbiased results of “Obama Administration’s heavy-handed 2015 Internet regulations” I think that fact sheet was written by doorhinge. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13900 "2017-11-30T00:14:44Z")
Was it shortened? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13901 "2017-11-30T00:20:14Z")
It was in crayon. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13902 "2017-11-30T01:20:44Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So you’re saying Trump was _lying_ last year when [he declared that Obama was born here](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html)? You know full well that [Trump doesn’t stand behind anything he says](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO8L_YkOXXAhWr6oMKHYEyAw4QtwIIJzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DK6pyzb6o4Z4&usg=AOvVaw1Kn0t2aIXltiUDGgWqi5cE). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13903 "2017-11-30T06:47:04Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Oh right, that category. Goodness. > > I think ‘crass’ works pretty well. Fuck you too. [Moderating] Saying “Fuck you” to other posters is a violation of the Pit’s language rules. Please avoid this in the future. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/13904 "2017-11-30T15:57:47Z")
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