# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 705
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14085 "2017-12-07T03:35:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > During Donnie Junior’s interrogation before the House Intelligence Committee today, he tried to claim that his conversations with his father were covered by attorney-client privilege because there was an attorney in the room. > [https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/donald-trump-privilege-questions-284841](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/donald-trump-privilege-questions-284841) Oh, FFS - they let him get away with it! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14086 "2017-12-07T03:53:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I think it virtually impossible that it was Trump’s idea. Somebody had to have whispered in his ear, to make this a campaign promise, virtually out of the blue. It’s not like “move the embassy to Jerusalem” was something just percolating in the zeitgeist, that _everybody_ has an opinion on. Trump is such a patsy for the religious far right, I’d find it quite unlikely that this wasn’t their idea. Of course, it doesn’t have a blame thing to do with what’s good or right for Israel nor for the Palestinians. It’s all about bringing about what the evangelicals consider to be the ultimate good thing, the Second Coming. Come on, you don’t seriously believe they, or even Trump, give a tinker’s damn about Jews or Muslims, do you? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14087 "2017-12-07T04:03:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The most likely thing is that DJT had loose lower dentures. Some claim (I have yet to view it) that you can see this in the video if you are looking for it. Ugh. There’s not enough eye bleach in the world to take that away. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14088 "2017-12-07T04:23:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [“Trump’s unintentionally profound insight into American politics”](http://theweek.com/articles/741495/trumps-unintentionally-profound-insight-into-american-politics) > > It’s pretty clear that the Republicans have adopted this as policy. Say anything, lie at will, make shit up, and people will believe you. Who says the Pubs have no principles or direction? Well, all I know is, if Hillary were president right now, who knows what she’d be doing right now? I mean she could be deleting her spam folder or using her Windows disk defragmenter. I mean, Jesus Christ, she might be emptying her recycle bin for all we know! Thank God for Trump! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14089 "2017-12-07T04:44:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Ugh. There’s not enough eye bleach in the world to take that away. It’s my earballs that concern me, so I watched it silently. It’s a thing, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14090 "2017-12-07T05:06:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The most likely thing is that DJT had loose lower dentures. Some claim (I have yet to view it) that you can see this in the video if you are looking for it. Looked and sounded like loose dentures to me too. I didn’t actually see the dentures moving around, but the way he was moving his mouth suggested to me that he was trying to keep dentures in place. And the hissing/whistling reminded me of my grandpa, many years ago. Trump is an idiot, a crook, and a threat to world peace, but I don’t think he was slurring his speech due to drugs or alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14091 "2017-12-07T05:17:10Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Looked and sounded like loose dentures to me too. I didn’t actually see the dentures moving around, but the way he was moving his mouth suggested to me that he was trying to keep dentures in place. And the hissing/whistling reminded me of my grandpa, many years ago. It’s mere speculation based on an anecdote, but [Loser Donald might have wound up in dentures because he insisted on having his veneers replaced twice a year.](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/denturegate-dentist-says-trump-may-have-destroyed-his-teeth-with-too-many-veneers/) > [@](#): > > Veneers are a layer of hard white resin that dentists glue to the front of a patient’s tooth to make it appear whiter, longer or more symmetrical to the teeth around it. They are semi-permanent and usually intended to stay on the teeth for 10 to 20 years. > > Trump would demand that his be changed twice a year. > > “I tell him that if they are too white, they won’t look real,” the dentist said to Scotti, “but he won’t listen. So he picks a shade, and I make them about one-quarter as white as the shade he selects, and he goes away happy.” > > Dr. Shapiro said that — if true — this could be potentially disastrous to Trump’s oral health. Each time veneers are removed, some of the original tooth gets taken away as well, leaving the remaining material weakened. > > “I hope this dentist informed Trump that if he continued replacing his veneers every six months, he will soon have no tooth left to veneer — crowns, root canals, extractions, implants will be in his future, if the future is not already here,” Shapiro wrote. It certainly sounds like the behavior we’d expect from someone as vain and obsessed with hiding any sign of aging as Donnie has shown himself to be. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14092 "2017-12-07T05:31:39Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Looked and sounded like loose dentures to me too. I didn’t actually see the dentures moving around, but the way he was moving his mouth suggested to me that he was trying to keep dentures in place. And the hissing/whistling reminded me of my grandpa, many years ago. > > Trump is an idiot, a crook, and a threat to world peace, but I don’t think he was slurring his speech due to drugs or alcohol. You’re no fun any more. Gotta admit I’m mildly curious as to why they’d be falling out. He can usually bloviate at length without difficulty. Maybe they’ve just had enough. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14093 "2017-12-07T06:13:37Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Gotta admit I’m mildly curious as to why they’d be falling out. Perhaps he had an [incautious probation officer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsrvURzZmDM&t=3m13s)? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14094 "2017-12-07T06:18:19Z")
I’d just like to note that today is this thread’s one-year anniversary. One whole year, and it’s never once dropped off the first page of the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14095 "2017-12-07T07:27:35Z")
Germany’s foreign minister says Germany and the EU have to move on their own and not rely on the United States. > **[Gabriel: EU must step up if it is to survive – DW – 12/05/2017](https://www.dw.com/en/sigmar-gabriel-to-survive-the-eu-must-become-more-assertive/a-41654557)** > > Sigmar Gabriel declared at a foreign policy forum that relations with the US will "never be the same" after Trump. He warned institutions like the EU and the UN that they were running the risk of becoming irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14096 "2017-12-07T07:30:47Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’d just like to note that today is this thread’s one-year anniversary. One whole year, and it’s never once dropped off the first page of the Pit. Nor will it until the Trump Admin/Civilization ends. Whichever is first. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14097 "2017-12-07T10:41:26Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Strange. When I have a dry throat, it sounds like a dry throat. Not like I’m holding a roll of quarters in my mouth, or just came out of general anaesthesia, or… what the flaming hell was that? I watched that live, and I honestly thought he was starting to change into his true form — and as he finished up, would make a run for it before he sprouted his leathery wings. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14098 "2017-12-07T11:00:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Germany’s foreign minister says Germany and the EU have to move on their own and not rely on the United States. > [Gabriel: EU must step up if it is to survive – DW – 12/05/2017](http://www.dw.com/en/sigmar-gabriel-to-survive-the-eu-must-become-more-assertive/a-41654557) It’s clear that the United States is isolating itself diplomatically and that Europe is on its own, powerless to defend itself against whatever Vladimir Putin does to disrupt European unity, which will probably strengthen the hand of nationalist movements in Europe. Keep in mind, whatever weakens a United Europe, weakens the United States globally, too. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14099 "2017-12-07T12:03:32Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’d just like to note that today is this thread’s one-year anniversary. One whole year, and it’s never once dropped off the first page of the Pit. Thanks to a generous grant from the Donald J. Trump administration, the grift that keeps on giving. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14100 "2017-12-07T12:23:46Z")
I knew that Jared’s dad was sent to prison by Chris Christie but I had never read about it his actual deeds. From the wiki: > [@](#): > > In 2005, following an investigation by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey,[13] U.S. Attorney Chris Christie negotiated a plea agreement with Kushner, under which he pleaded guilty to 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering.[14] The witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner’s act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther’s husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators; **Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister.** We’re being ruled by the silver-spoon, dingbat offspring of real estate industry parasites. What a sad parade. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14101 "2017-12-07T12:31:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > 1. Because Obama did not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Everything Trump does is pretty much based on Anti-Obama. Absolutely. If Obama eradicated cancer, Donald would try to bring it back. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14102 "2017-12-07T12:41:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Absolutely. If Obama eradicated cancer, Donald would try to bring it back. We’re gonna make cancer great again, folks, believe me! On a serious note, is it me, or is Trump’s obsession with Obama also indicative of racial disdain? I think Trump’s biggest problem with Obama is that he doesn’t know his place and that he’s uppity. The fact that he ridiculed him at a public dinner probably sticks with him to this day. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14103 "2017-12-07T13:46:25Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …On a serious note, is it me, or is Trump’s obsession with Obama also indicative of racial disdain? I think Trump’s biggest problem with Obama is that he doesn’t know his place and that he’s uppity. The fact that he ridiculed him at a public dinner probably sticks with him to this day. I’ve said this over and over from Day One. Obama’s main offense is not (just) being black, but being an UPPITY black. Blacks are fine in their place–thump employs them at his properties, although I’ve read that they must all vanish when thump comes into the room. (Sorry, no cite.) But my God, Obama went to Harvard, for fuck’s sake! Who does he think he is?? Does he think he’s as good as or \ \*better \*than a white man?? And married a black girl who also went to Harvard–someone has got to take this boy down a notch. All the way to the bottom where he belongs. Frankly, I believe that was McConnell’s basic problem with Obama, too. However, Mitch seems to realize that Obama isn’t President anymore, a fact which thump can’t seem to wrap his tiny [del]hands[/del] brain around. The visceral hatred of Obama wouldn’t be nearly as strong as it is if he weren’t black. Just like the visceral hatred of Hillary wouldn’t be as strong as it is if she weren’t a woman. Can anyone name a white male Democrat who is hated or has ever been hated by the Right as much as these two are? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14104 "2017-12-07T14:00:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Absolutely. If Obama eradicated cancer, Donald would try to bring it back. DT would have no choice, what with being a cancer himself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=704) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=706)