# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 708
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14145 "2017-12-07T21:16:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I thought they’d say if Putin can’t go, we’re not going either. Ha! That was my first thought, too. “Doping is fake news! We stand with Russia!” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14146 "2017-12-07T21:37:55Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > One of the interesting and rather salutary effects of the current presidential clusterfuck is a growing number of people recognizing the need for quality journalism. On a personal level…Prior to the rise of Trump I was your basic apolitical slightly-left-of-centre shmoe who almost never watched the news, and had to drag himself out to vote mainly because politicians basically seemed like all the others. The observations going on with the elections last fall was what mainly got me caught up in this site, and when President преЦАРдент got elected, I don’t think I’ve missed one single PRS Newshour since (never watched it even once prior to then). This shit-show has so absofrickenlutely _g-a-l-v-a-n-i-z-e-d_ yours truly and if I lived south of the border I would be so high on the hog with whatever grassroots involvement that I could possibly throw myself into (flyering, protests, fundraising events, certainly not missing a town hall meeting) ([The Indivisible Movement](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-progressive-activists-are-leading-the-trump-resistance-w499221) certainly sounds like a ‘thing’.) (scroll seven paragraphs down to get to the I.M. stuff). That’s about as much of a salutary effect that I can get out of this dire shittiness so far. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14147 "2017-12-07T21:47:00Z")
Seth Abramson live tweeting Erik Prince’s testimony before the House Intelligence Committee has a lot of damning commentary: > ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14148 "2017-12-07T22:40:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Erik Prince’s plan to privatize the Afghan War includes mining Afghanistan’s minerals to pay for it. > [Private War: Erik Prince Has His Eye On Afghanistan's Rare Metals](https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/private-war-erik-prince-has-his-eye-on-afghanistans-rare?utm_term=.ii8Q5z6Ld#.kfN9nMQx4) Ah, good ol’ colonial imperialism–_profits_! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14149 "2017-12-07T23:03:58Z")
Prince had an affair with his nanny while his wife was dying of cancer. Just another hypocritical republican piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14150 "2017-12-07T23:16:43Z")
Good God, man, he boinked his nanny? Oh, wait, his _child’s_ nanny, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14151 "2017-12-08T00:16:12Z")
Well in all fairness, he _did_ marry the nanny. And then later divorced her. But there’s a sanctity to marriage that is ordained by GOD. Good thing for conservatives that this only applies to _other_ kinds of people, and not pussy-lovin’ dudes and dick-lovin girls. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14152 "2017-12-08T00:19:16Z")
This is a guy who built a business that resulted in the bloody murder of a number of Iraqi civilians. He should spend his days in repentance and good works. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14153 "2017-12-08T00:33:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > This is a guy who built a business that resulted in the **bloody murder of a number of Iraqi civilians.** He should spend his days in repentance and good works. Hell, no. _That’s_ what he considers good works. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14154 "2017-12-08T00:41:25Z")
Remember, too, that Erik Prince is Secretary of Education (_shudder_) Betsy DeVos’s brother. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14155 "2017-12-08T00:56:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Good God, man, he boinked his nanny? Oh, wait, his _child’s_ nanny, perhaps? You could have stopped at 56,877 ya know. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14156 "2017-12-08T02:32:25Z")
Actually, no. I couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14157 "2017-12-08T08:07:39Z")
[Trump’s approval rating is at 32%](http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/index.html). I don’t know whether to be shocked that it’s so low, or shocked that it’s so high. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14158 "2017-12-08T08:32:39Z")
Trump actually did something I agree with…and it actually kind of highlighted for me just how much of a clusterfuck his administration is. Out of hundreds of different statements and actions I’ve been aware of the Trump administration taking in the last year, there was only one other time I actually agreed with Trump. When he killed the T.P.P. at the beginning of his administration. Pretty much everything else he and his gang have done hasn’t just been wrong; it’s been objectively damaging and morally reprehensible. [Trump Urges Saudi Arabia To End Blockade of Goods to Yemen](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-yemen-saudi-blockade.html)It’s lacking an “or else” that is warranted given the utterly depraved actions of Saudi Arabia, but it’s a good start. [URL=“[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-yemen-saudi-blockade.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-yemen-saudi-blockade.html)”] ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14159 "2017-12-08T09:22:48Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > [Trump’s approval rating is at 32%](http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/index.html). I don’t know whether to be shocked that it’s so low, or shocked that it’s so high. His base is [27%](http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html). He’s not going below that. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14160 "2017-12-08T09:29:14Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Trump actually did something I agree with…and it actually kind of highlighted for me just how much of a clusterfuck his administration is. Out of hundreds of different statements and actions I’ve been aware of the Trump administration taking in the last year, there was only one other time I actually agreed with Trump. When he killed the T.P.P. at the beginning of his administration. Pretty much everything else he and his gang have done hasn’t just been wrong; it’s been objectively damaging and morally reprehensible. Here, have a [third](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/12/trump-afghan-girls-robots-240474). ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14161 "2017-12-08T11:51:46Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > His base is [27%](http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html). He’s not going below that. But put Trump up against a Democrat in a real election, and his support would be higher. I know a lot of people believe that Bernie Sanders would have a fighting chance - and he probably does - but I think we might be surprised at how easy he would become for the right wing to smear with their negative information war campaigns. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14162 "2017-12-08T12:55:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > How far back does one have to go before the Clinton Administration didn’t happen? > > You’re not making sense, Grandma. In my experience and from my personal observation of the news over 6+ decades, the deep, gut-level, ongoing, will-not-die hatred of Obama and Hillary Clinton by the Right far surpasses anything ever directed at white, male Democratic politicians. This is my opinion. Yours is different. Good for you. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14163 "2017-12-08T13:38:13Z")
Holy hell, Thelma, the returds on Fox News keeps harping on impeaching the Clinton administration. Goes to show: the group most upset about Hillary’s loss is, in fact, the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14164 "2017-12-08T14:37:52Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Trump actually did something I agree with…and it actually kind of highlighted for me just how much of a clusterfuck his administration is. Out of hundreds of different statements and actions I’ve been aware of the Trump administration taking in the last year, there was only one other time I actually agreed with Trump. When he killed the T.P.P. at the beginning of his administration. Pretty much everything else he and his gang have done hasn’t just been wrong; it’s been objectively damaging and morally reprehensible. > > [Trump Urges Saudi Arabia To End Blockade of Goods to Yemen](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-yemen-saudi-blockade.html)It’s lacking an “or else” that is warranted given the utterly depraved actions of Saudi Arabia, but it’s a good start. > [URL=“[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-yemen-saudi-blockade.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-yemen-saudi-blockade.html)”] I’m curious. What are the things Trump has done that you agree with and why do you agree with them? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=707) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=709)