# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1401 "2017-02-17T01:12:56Z")
According to a Jake Tapper Tweet: “A friend of Harward’s says he was reluctant to take NSA job bc the WH seems so chaotic; says Harward called the offer a ‘shit sandwich.’” ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1402 "2017-02-17T02:38:21Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump’s choice for national security adviser has turned down offer: sources](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-harward-idUSKBN15V2Z7) Smart guy. From the article: > [@](#): > > The president also made clear why he asked Flynn to resign, saying it was because the retired lieutenant general had not been completely truthful with Pence about his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak. > > “The thing is, he didn’t tell our vice president properly, and then he said he didn’t remember. So either way, it wasn’t very satisfactory to me,” Trump said. It’s interesting that he’s been sitting on that information for weeks now and only now decides to cut him loose. I don’t believe it’s a stretch to imagine that it didn’t bother him in the least until Flynn’s lies became public. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1403 "2017-02-17T02:39:25Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Somebody give Snowflake Blinkie his blankie, already… He gets a pit thread: [• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819325) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1404 "2017-02-17T04:18:04Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > He gets a pit thread: [• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819325) He already had one. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1405 "2017-02-17T04:19:41Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > At Trump’s presser today, [he asked a black reporter, April Ryan, the Washington bureau chief for the American Urban Radio Networks, if members of the Congressional Black Caucus were “friends of hers” and asked if she could set up a meeting with the CBC for him.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-congressional-black-caucus-april-ryan-235102?cmpid=sf) He should have asked Frederick Douglass (to steal from Andy Borowitz). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1406 "2017-02-17T04:22:05Z")
[Six White House staffers escorted off the grounds after failing security clearances.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/02/white-house-failed-background-checks-dismissals-235112) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1407 "2017-02-17T04:23:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Six White House staffers escorted off the grounds after failing security clearances.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/02/white-house-failed-background-checks-dismissals-235112) I wonder if Trump could pass it. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1408 "2017-02-17T04:25:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Six White House staffers escorted off the grounds after failing security clearances.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/02/white-house-failed-background-checks-dismissals-235112) Well-oiled machine. Problem is they’re using Oil of Olay. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1409 "2017-02-17T04:27:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Six White House staffers escorted off the grounds after failing security clearances.](http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/02/white-house-failed-background-checks-dismissals-235112) They wouldn’t happen to have been Russian nationals, would they? Man oh man, what a press conference. Major news anchors on CNN are laughing their asses off, probably not the effect Trump intended. I think starting with the 2018 congressional elections, it’s going to be a Night of the Long Knives for the Republicans. And I wouldn’t mind much if that were true in a very literal sense for Republicans everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1410 "2017-02-17T05:22:22Z")
Maybe this is the price to pay for getting rid of the Republicans once and for all. If Clinton had won, they’d regroup and maybe grow stronger. I think Trump could very well finish them off. Maybe a few years of this is a small price to pay. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1411 "2017-02-17T08:00:43Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Maybe this is the price to pay for getting rid of the Republicans once and for all. If Clinton had won, they’d regroup and maybe grow stronger. I think Trump could very well finish them off. Maybe a few years of this is a small price to pay. As soon as the Republicans chose that fool to be their presidential candidate, I started saying, “This is the death knell of the Republican party”. Sometimes I hate being right. It’s not that it bothers me that the 'pubbies will go away as a party; it’s the damage the fool is doing now and will do before he finally ups and quits that bothers me. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1412 "2017-02-17T09:12:32Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Maybe this is the price to pay for getting rid of the Republicans once and for all. If Clinton had won, they’d regroup and maybe grow stronger. I think Trump could very well finish them off. Maybe a few years of this is a small price to pay. Well this is what I thought when he became the GOP nominee. Trump would obviously get tanked in an election vs an adult. Heck, he’d lose to an avergae 9th grader on understanding of world politics or maturity. Then the GOP would have to rethink how crazy the party had become, and we’d have a saner political discourse. But then something happened at the large hadron collider, and we got dropped into a bizarre reality where tens of millions voted trump (and the moon became made of cheese, but we’ve yet to discover that). Now all bets are off. Also, being a little more serious for a moment, they’ll be a conservative majority on the SC for perhaps a generation, so we’re hardly getting rid of the guys, no matter what happens. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1413 "2017-02-17T09:40:33Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Let me take a guess … “what do you think the play is about?” That shit? My point was that the play (which I haven’t seen; I’ve only read the synopsis) is about Alexander Hamilton, a signer of the Constitution, and, apparently, is set, partially, during the Constitutional convention. _**(I know, too many commas; I can’t help it)**_ [my emphasis] Whether perverse or just bored, this prompted me to examine a variety of texts to see how deviant your six commas (with a semi-colon inside a parenthesis) were. My results were so interesting I’m tempted to start an IMHO thread, but instead will content myself with a sentence from Charles Dickens’ _David Copperfield_ … The way in which I listened to all the incidents of the house that made themselves audible to me; the ringing of bells, the opening and shutting of doors, the murmuring of voices, the footsteps on the stairs; to any laughing, whistling, or singing, outside, which seemed more dismal than anything else to me in my solitude and disgrace - the uncertain pace of the hours, especially at night, when I would wake thinking it was morning, and find that the family were not yet gone to bed, and that all the length of night had yet to come - the depressed dreams and nightmares I had - the return of day, noon, afternoon, evening, when the boys played in the churchyard, and I watched them from a distance within the room, being ashamed to show myself at the window lest they should know I was a prisoner - the strange sensation of never hearing myself speak - the fleeting intervals of something like cheerfulness, which came with eating and drinking, and went away with it - the setting in of rain one evening, with a fresh smell, and its coming down faster and faster between me and the church, until it and gathering night seemed to quench me in gloom, and fear, and remorse - all this appears to have gone round and round for years instead of days, it is so vividly and strongly stamped on my remembrance. … that has 25 commas, 2 semi-colons, and 7 dashes. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1414 "2017-02-17T09:47:50Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Maybe this is the price to pay for getting rid of the Republicans once and for all. If Clinton had won, they’d regroup and maybe grow stronger. I think Trump could very well finish them off. Maybe a few years of this is a small price to pay. Yes, and maybe the average republican will come to realize that Obama was actually a pretty decent president. And maybe they’ll come to realize that when Trump speaks about 3 million illegal votes, he’s talking out of his ass. And maybe my ass will sprout wings and fly me to the fucking sherbert kingdom. We had eight years of gross incompetence and mismanagement under Bush, followed by 8 years of pretty darn decent presidenting from Obama. The FOX News/Talk Radio/Internet shitbag crowd _doesn’t care_. They’ll keep spreading their propaganda. It took all of _two years_ for the republican party to recover from that disaster. Why would you assume anything resembling sanity or rationality _now_? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1415 "2017-02-17T10:00:59Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yes, and maybe the average republican will come to realize that Obama was actually a pretty decent president. And maybe they’ll come to realize that when Trump speaks about 3 million illegal votes, he’s talking out of his ass. And maybe my ass will sprout wings and fly me to the fucking sherbert kingdom. We had eight years of gross incompetence and mismanagement under Bush, followed by 8 years of pretty darn decent presidenting from Obama. The FOX News/Talk Radio/Internet shitbag crowd _doesn’t care_. They’ll keep spreading their propaganda. It took all of _two years_ for the republican party to recover from that disaster. Why would you assume anything resembling sanity or rationality _now_? Yeah, apparently the Donald thinks that he inherited a mess. A mess, I tell you. He has no idea what Obama has to deal with following W. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1416 "2017-02-17T11:48:10Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yes, and maybe the average republican will come to realize that Obama was actually a pretty decent president. And maybe they’ll come to realize that when Trump speaks about 3 million illegal votes, he’s talking out of his ass. And maybe my ass will sprout wings and fly me to the fucking sherbert kingdom. We had eight years of gross incompetence and mismanagement under Bush, followed by 8 years of pretty darn decent presidenting from Obama. The FOX News/Talk Radio/Internet shitbag crowd _doesn’t care_. They’ll keep spreading their propaganda. It took all of _two years_ for the republican party to recover from that disaster. Why would you assume anything resembling sanity or rationality _now_? Exactly. As clownish and incompetent as Trump is, he hasn’t (probably only because he hasn’t yet had time) started a disastrous war, or devastated the economy. Bush took a budget SURPLUS and turned it into a huge deficit that benefited only the rich; he literally threw away money and lives in a war he lied us into; and then he took us within an inch of total economic disaster. And the fucking morons in the red states, and even some of the traditionally blue states, voted for Trump because they hated the idea of affordable health care. You simply cannot overestimate the stupidity of the American electorate. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1417 "2017-02-17T13:20:47Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > He already had one. But you have to admit, that is an amusing hyperlink text. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1418 "2017-02-17T20:16:33Z")
[Trump administration considers mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants.](https://twitter.com/AP/status/832608704855937024) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1419 "2017-02-17T20:24:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Trump administration considers mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants.](https://twitter.com/AP/status/832608704855937024) Trump: “[Find who leaked that and punish them!](http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-white-house-denies-report-that-trump-is-1487348685-htmlstory.html)” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1420 "2017-02-17T20:45:30Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yes, and maybe the average republican will come to realize that Obama was actually a pretty decent president. And maybe they’ll come to realize that when Trump speaks about 3 million illegal votes, he’s talking out of his ass. And maybe my ass will sprout wings and fly me to the fucking sherbert kingdom. We had eight years of gross incompetence and mismanagement under Bush, followed by 8 years of pretty darn decent presidenting from Obama. The FOX News/Talk Radio/Internet shitbag crowd _doesn’t care_. They’ll keep spreading their propaganda. It took all of _two years_ for the republican party to recover from that disaster. Why would you assume anything resembling sanity or rationality _now_? You are sadly correct. Already, there are GOP voters who “remember” that Obama just sat there in the White House doing nothing when those planes hit the twin towers on 9/11. No, I am not making this up In future years, GOP voters will “remember” how Obama killed hostages in Iran, how he set up death panels and killed their grandma, and how Obama personally opened a portal to hell, releasing the demon spawn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=72)