# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 714
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14265 "2017-12-12T22:15:09Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > is “-USED” some sort of twitter speak? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Is that like pwnd? If it is, pwn would totally fucking pwn -USED. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14266 "2017-12-13T00:31:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > “If your family tree does not fork, you might be a redneck.”-Jeff Foxworthy Or as a former coworker of mine once put it “My family tree is a telephone pole.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14267 "2017-12-13T01:24:46Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > While I absolutely, one hundred percent believe the USA is vulnerable to such things just as anyone is, the fact that the states hold the elections whether the feds like it or not makes it quite unlikely such a thing will happen. I could totally see Trump convincing his sycophants to do this, but convincing 50 state governments all at the same time? Because you have to convince all of them (or, to do it permanently through a Constitutional amendment, 38 of them.) Not super likely - if you try to do it one state at a time, the first state is conceding its power over the feds to every subsequent state that doesn’t get on board. In this regard the founding fathers were very clever. > > I would further say that I do not think for an instant Donald Trump gives a shit about democracy, and he would cancel elections in an instant if he thought it to his advantage - but to do so would be very, very hard, and would require more intelligence and foresight than he is capable of. > > It is of course sad that we’re even at the point that if a President were to try this he WOULDN’T be impeached in a day. Under most of the circumstances I can think of, I would agree. But suppose there’s a shock event - a massive war? Something that changes the dynamics from what they are now, considerably. A national emergency. Suppose that it’s not just Trump who insists on having emergency powers but Generals Mattis, McMaster, and Kelly who (retired or not) still have considerable influence over the military apparatus, work the congress to pass this emergency legislation? There wouldn’t be a Colin Powell or Henry Kissinger to bounce moderate their influence this time; the State Department is withering on the vine as we speak. Suppose that there is more of a concerted effort in the next year or two by not only the White House but the Republican party to attack the Washington Post, New York Times, and perhaps CNN and MSNBC. Take away those four networks and it would neutralize major players in the modern free press. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14268 "2017-12-13T04:02:54Z")
After the Alabama election, a number of Republicans are going to start taking a serious look at Trump’s ability to lead the party electorally. It may be quiet at first, but it _will_ happen, and it will start now. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14269 "2017-12-13T04:06:40Z")
How many illegal voters will Trump say gave the election to Jones? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14270 "2017-12-13T04:10:51Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > How many illegal voters will Trump say gave the election to Jones? 641,173. And counting, probably. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14271 "2017-12-13T04:34:27Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > How many illegal voters will Trump say gave the election to Jones? I half-suspect that in some quiet room somewhere, a Republican in a position of authority is saying, “you know, if we could somehow have disenfranchised another 10,000 or so blacks, we’d have taken this thing…” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14272 "2017-12-13T05:40:56Z")
Nate Silver just tweeted, “GILLIBRAND-JONES 2020” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14273 "2017-12-13T05:48:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Nate Silver just tweeted, “GILLIBRAND-JONES 2020” 😕 Not sure why he would do that. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14274 "2017-12-13T05:59:41Z")
A beautiful night! Trump and Bannon’s candidate, Roy Moore, goes down in flames. Republicans lose a Senate seat and Trump/Bannon lose credibility. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14275 "2017-12-13T06:06:27Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > A beautiful night! Trump and Bannon’s candidate, Roy Moore, goes down in flames. > > Republicans lose a Senate seat and Trump/Bannon lose credibility. Coffee pots are going to get tossed around in the White House halls tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14276 "2017-12-13T06:58:33Z")
Keurignacht Zwei. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14277 "2017-12-13T07:33:30Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump’s lawyer wants a special counsel to investigate the special counsel. > [Trump’s lawyer calls for a special counsel investigation of alleged corruption at FBI and Justice Department - The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/12/12/trumps-lawyer-calls-for-a-special-counsel-investigation-of-alleged-corruption-at-fbi-and-justice-department/?utm_term=.299ee3a32729) It’s special counsels all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14278 "2017-12-13T11:40:47Z")
I like Matt Oswalt’s (Patton’s brother) take on the Alabama senatorial election: “I hope Roy Moore’s defeat is a lesson to all Republicans that no matter how many kids you fuck NEVER admit to having a jew lawyer.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14279 "2017-12-13T12:46:05Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > How many illegal voters will Trump say gave the election to Jones? “Alabama”… it even sounds like a word in Mexican! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14280 "2017-12-13T14:02:32Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I half-suspect that in some quiet room somewhere, a Republican in a position of authority is saying, “you know, if we could somehow have disenfranchised another 10,000 or so blacks, we’d have taken this thing…” I expect a movement to get the black vote count as 3/5s of the white vote any day now. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14281 "2017-12-13T14:33:51Z")
So that makes two losers in Alabama he’s backed. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14282 "2017-12-13T15:10:26Z")
I guess Omarosa is going to take the fall for losing in Alabama: [https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiyj5zAoofYAhWJ5YMKHavtBfgQqUMIKzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2017-12-13%2Fprominent-black-supporter-of-trump-set-to-leave-white-house&usg=AOvVaw0dqASl\_qwWt25Ou1\_NanpA](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiyj5zAoofYAhWJ5YMKHavtBfgQqUMIKzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2017-12-13%2Fprominent-black-supporter-of-trump-set-to-leave-white-house&usg=AOvVaw0dqASl_qwWt25Ou1_NanpA) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14283 "2017-12-13T15:40:28Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > 😕 Not sure why he would do that. If Doug Jones wants to remain an elected offiical that might be his best move. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14284 "2017-12-13T15:46:12Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > I guess Omarosa is going to take the fall for losing in Alabama: > > [https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiyj5zAoofYAhWJ5YMKHavtBfgQqUMIKzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2017-12-13%2Fprominent-black-supporter-of-trump-set-to-leave-white-house&usg=AOvVaw0dqASl\_qwWt25Ou1\_NanpA](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiyj5zAoofYAhWJ5YMKHavtBfgQqUMIKzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2017-12-13%2Fprominent-black-supporter-of-trump-set-to-leave-white-house&usg=AOvVaw0dqASl_qwWt25Ou1_NanpA) But…how will they ever find a replacement to do all those things no one was aware that she was doing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=713) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=715)