# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 735
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14685 "2017-12-23T18:04:23Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Who is the “you” of whom you speak? You: the nation of assholes who elected Donald president. Feel free to claim extra special snowflake status: Your country still elected him to represent you and send us a walking “fuck you”- note: Fuck you too. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14686 "2017-12-23T18:13:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > …sawed off doors… ☹ Not a family man, but this still puts a pit in the ole tummy-wums: fuck those families of illegals, eh? The WH will show’em, and [separate their kids from them.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/trump-immigrant-families-separate.html?module=ArrowsNav&contentCollection=U.S.&action=keypress®ion=FixedLeft&pgtype=article) > [@](#): > > The policy is favored by the White House, and has been approved by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, according to three officials at the Department of Homeland Security and one at the White House who have all been briefed on the proposal but declined to be named because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. The officials said that the new Homeland Security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, who has final approval power, has yet to sign off on the proposal. > [@](#): > > But even without a formal change in policy, immigrant advocates say that families are already being separated on occasion. The Women’s Refugee Commission and other organizations filed a complaint this month that said it had documented more than 150 cases in 2017. > > “It interferes with due process, and is really just cruel,” said Michelle Brané, director of the Migrant Rights and Justice program at the organization. “Children feel that they are being abandoned, literally being ripped out of their parents’ arms.” > [@](#): > > Another proposal involves random spot checks of the homes where the children are taken, which would most likely result in even more immigration arrests, as those homes often contain other undocumented immigrants. Like…WTF? It’s like I can’t even _think_, now, of what depths they’ll stoop to. > [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You: the nation of assholes who elected Donald president. Feel free to claim extra special snowflake status: Your country still elected him to represent you and send us a walking “fuck you”- note: Fuck you too. Yeah? Puttin that on all of us? A little flounceadelic, but oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14687 "2017-12-23T18:21:20Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You: the nation of assholes who elected Donald president. Feel free to claim extra special snowflake status: Your country still elected him to represent you and send us a walking “fuck you”- note: Fuck you too. Speaking as an American who most certainly did not vote for Donald Trump I just have to say … yeah, ok, fair enough. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14688 "2017-12-23T18:22:08Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Speaking as an American who most certainly did not vote for Donald Trump I just have to say … yeah, ok, fair enough. Sorry. Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14689 "2017-12-23T18:23:07Z")
Yeah, it’s fucked. Unfortunately, we have so much other shit to atone for that “kiss and make up with the Dutch” is pretty far down the to-do list. _Het spijt me._ ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14690 "2017-12-23T18:25:37Z")
Yes, apparently part of MAGA! is sending incompetent assholes around to represent us. Sorry, too, rest of the world. Trump ain’t gonna last forever, lets just hope he doesn’t take us down with him. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14691 "2017-12-23T18:46:40Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You: the nation of assholes who elected Donald president. Feel free to claim extra special snowflake status: Your country still elected him to represent you and send us a walking “fuck you”- note: Fuck you too. Let me see. Trump just bulldozed your ancestral home to make a golf course? I feel your pain. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14692 "2017-12-23T18:54:17Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yes, apparently part of MAGA! is sending incompetent assholes around to represent us. Sorry, too, rest of the world. Trump ain’t gonna last forever, lets just hope he doesn’t take us down with him. Four years is going to feel like forever. And if he manages to stumble into nuclear war, well, it’ll be forever for most people. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14693 "2017-12-23T19:05:33Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Four years is going to feel like forever. And if he manages to stumble into nuclear war, well, it’ll be forever for most people. But the good news is that fine people like Donald, and his VP, Sessions, Rand, Probably even Roy Moore, Etc. will all survive deep in their secret nuclear bunker. They’ll be there to build the new perfect society when the radiation subsides. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14694 "2017-12-23T19:25:00Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > But the good news is that fine people like Donald, and his VP, Sessions, Rand, Probably even Roy Moore, Etc. will all survive deep in their secret nuclear bunker. They’ll be there to build the new perfect society when the radiation subsides. We’re replaced the conservative’s nuclear bunker with one of [these.](https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/18168098-55bb-45b8-8fc5-cee60f523baa/svn/black-flag-insect-traps-hg-11020-64_1000.jpg) Let’s see if they find out. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14695 "2017-12-23T19:50:52Z")
Or they could hang out with [Pete.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf9iTZ433zs) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14696 "2017-12-23T20:11:16Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You: the nation of assholes who elected Donald president. Feel free to claim extra special snowflake status: Your country still elected him to represent you and send us a walking “fuck you”- note: Fuck you too. Fuck _you!_ I didn’t vote for Trump; neither did most of the people posting in this thread; and he lost the popular vote by three million votes. So your ire is understandable but poorly aimed. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14697 "2017-12-23T20:54:37Z")
[Another example](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/politics/trump-immigration.html) of what happens when you put a barroom loudmouth in charge: > [@](#): > > …According to six officials who attended or were briefed about the meeting, Mr. Trump then began reading aloud from the document, which his domestic policy adviser, Stephen Miller, had given him just before the meeting. The document listed how many immigrants had received visas to enter the United States in 2017. > > More than 2,500 were from Afghanistan, a terrorist haven, the president complained. > > Haiti had sent 15,000 people. They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there. > > Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office… ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14698 "2017-12-23T21:44:55Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Trump’s “broad shoulders” are mainly pads (compare pictures in suits with golfing ones). Pence must have spent the Armani Years in a swoon. I wouldn’t be surprised. _Something_ certainly inspired him to make the persecution of gay people his mission in life. (I hope it’s obvious, but: mockery of Pence for his fixation on broad shoulders is not intended as a put-down of homosexuality, but instead as a put-down of hypocritical closeted politicians who actively work to harm fellow-gays.) > [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You: the nation of assholes who elected Donald president. Feel free to claim extra special snowflake status: Your country still elected him to represent you and send us a walking “fuck you”- note: Fuck you too. Technically, blaming all the people who voted against Trump, _for_ Trump, is kind of anti-democratic. Do you suggest we should have rebelled against the lawful government and its electoral system? But, yeah. It’s tough to blame you for being angry. Americans won’t recover from the shame of being associated with that vile mental-case for decades–if ever. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14699 "2017-12-23T21:59:57Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Another example](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/politics/trump-immigration.html) of what happens when you put a barroom loudmouth in charge: Yes, this shows what our Fuhrer thinks of blacks and immigrants in general. David Duke and other Nazis must be delighted. I don’t know how I can tolerate 3 more years of this. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14700 "2017-12-23T22:40:39Z")
“Unbelievable.” Eckels breathed, the light of the Machine on his thin face. “A real Time Machine.” He shook his head. “Makes you think. If the election had gone badly yesterday, I might be here now running away from the results. Thank God Hillary won. She’ll make a fine President of the United States.” “Yes,” said the man behind the desk. “We’re lucky. If Drumpf had gotten in, we’d have the worst kind of dictatorship. There’s an anti-everything man for you, a militarist, antiChrist, anti-human, anti-intellectual. People called us up, you know, joking but not joking. Said if Drumpf became President they wanted to go live in 1492. Of course it’s not our business to conduct Escapes, but to form Safaris. Anyway, Hillary’s President now. All you got to worry about is—” “Shooting my dinosaur,” Eckels finished it for him. _–Ray Dinglebury_, “A Sound of Trumpets” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14701 "2017-12-23T23:06:17Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Fuck _you!_ I didn’t vote for Trump; neither did most of the people posting in this thread; and he lost the popular vote by three million votes. So your ire is understandable but poorly aimed. Anger at America has a **lot** more behind it than just the election of Donald Trump. He’s a symptom of our ignorance. Anyone who’s being objective - even the most loyal and red, white, and blue American - should be able to understand the frustration that people have with America right now. As I’ve said in other threads, Donald Trump and the Republican party aren’t meteors that fell out of the sky; we put them into power. They are a reflection of us in the collective. I absolutely agree that there’s a lot more to us than the orange-haired shitgibbon and we’re better than this, but the only way we’re going to change perceptions about us is to come to our senses and start really getting a healthy dose of skepticism and curiosity about things outside of our own daily experience. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14702 "2017-12-23T23:20:39Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Anger at America has a **lot** more behind it than just the election of Donald Trump. He’s a symptom of our ignorance. > > Anyone who’s being objective - even the most loyal and red, white, and blue American - should be able to understand the frustration that people have with America right now. As I’ve said in other threads, Donald Trump and the Republican party aren’t meteors that fell out of the sky; we put them into power. They are a reflection of us in the collective. I absolutely agree that there’s a lot more to us than the orange-haired shitgibbon and we’re better than this, but the only way we’re going to change perceptions about us is to come to our senses and start really getting a healthy dose of skepticism and curiosity about things outside of our own daily experience. It just strikes me as innumerate. They hated us for Dubya; then they were over the moon about Obama; now this. But I voted Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama, Clinton; that’s true for nearly half the country. To blame or praise us based on the whims of a small slice of swing voters who are vastly outnumbered by stalwart Democrats and Republicans just doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14703 "2017-12-23T23:26:41Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > It just strikes me as innumerate. They hated us for Dubya; then they were over the moon about Obama; now this. But I voted Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama, Clinton; that’s true for nearly half the country. To blame or praise us based on the whims of a small slice of swing voters who are vastly outnumbered by stalwart Democrats and Republicans just doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense? Did we stop him/them? :dubious: Did we prevent this situation? What are we doing now to prevent it from getting any worse? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/14704 "2017-12-23T23:35:27Z")
We tried to prevent it; and I moved to Minnesota this year to fortify it and be part of the blue state resistance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=734) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=736)