# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1501 "2017-02-20T03:46:28Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > That poll is… I don’t know. It’s something, all right. > > “On which issues does the mainstream media do the worst job of representing Republicans? (Select as many that apply.)” . . . Have you stopped beating your wife? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1502 "2017-02-20T04:11:19Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > A not so small percentage of liberals have severe mental issues But thanks to the Republicans, they’ll have no problem buying guns. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1503 "2017-02-20T04:19:15Z")
More Putin/Russia connections: > **[A Back-Channel Plan for Ukraine and Russia, Courtesy of Trump Associates...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0)** > > Amid scrutiny of President Trump’s possible ties to Russia, his personal lawyer advances an opposition Ukrainian lawmaker’s sealed plan to the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1504 "2017-02-20T04:23:19Z")
The news is reporting Congress – or some Senate committee? – has ordered the administration not to destroy ANY documents that may relate to Russian contacts by anyone on the Trump team. Could this be a second Watergate in the making? Or is this just purely routine? Or maybe this is just some more fake news. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1505 "2017-02-20T04:28:48Z")
[Trump aide Stephen Miller called the federal attorney defending the Muslim ban at his home, and told him how to defend it.](http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/stephen-miller-called-u-s-attorney-travel-ban-defense-article-1.2975873?cid=bitly) ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1506 "2017-02-20T05:06:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > More Putin/Russia connections: > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&\_r=0](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0) My newsletter revealed that Putin has connections to Russia several months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1507 "2017-02-20T07:35:46Z")
So much for my google-fu. (gettin _sleepy…_) Curious if any previous administrations, a month into office, had as few as 60 out of a possible 691 White House positions filled. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1508 "2017-02-20T14:13:31Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > So much for my google-fu. (gettin _sleepy…_) > > Curious if any previous administrations, a month into office, had as few as 60 out of a possible 691 White House positions filled. Hey, what does he need people for? He’s so smart he can do it all himself with just a couple of family members. When you hire others, sooner or later they say mean things about you and you have to fire them anyway, so why bother? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1509 "2017-02-20T16:29:25Z")
Trump’s information security woes continue. [A site apparently used to collect campaign donations has been compromised and defaced](https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/secure-trump-website-defaced-by-hacker-claiming-to-be-from-iraq/). Yesterday afternoon, the site secure2[dot]donaldjtrump[dot]com was replaced with a film noir style image of a guy in a fedora, and the text: > [@\-defaced Trump page](#): > > Hacked By Pro\_Mast3r ~ > Attacker Gov > Nothing Is Impossible > Peace From Iraq The site was down as of 4:00 PM Eastern yesterday. I was one of those who criticized Clinton for being an idiot with her email server, although it was not a big enough issue for me to keep me from voting for her. But after Trump and many of his supporters beat that issue to death, it’s surprising\* that Trump’s ineptitude in the security area is not getting more attention from Trump and criticism from his disappointed supporters. \*Not really surprising. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1510 "2017-02-20T16:36:37Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Trump’s information security woes continue. [A site apparently used to collect campaign donations has been compromised and defaced](https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/secure-trump-website-defaced-by-hacker-claiming-to-be-from-iraq/). Yesterday afternoon, the site secure2[dot]donaldjtrump[dot]com was replaced with a film noir style image of a guy in a fedora, and the text: > > The site was down as of 4:00 PM Eastern yesterday. > > I was one of those who criticized Clinton for being an idiot with her email server, although it was not a big enough issue for me to keep me from voting for her. But after Trump and many of his supporters beat that issue to death, _it’s surprising that Trump’s ineptitude in the security area is not getting more attention from Trump and criticism from his disappointed supporters._\* > > \*Not really surprising. Because he has declared such reports to be “fake news” and the faithful believe it like gospel. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1511 "2017-02-20T17:07:44Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Trump’s information security woes continue. [A site apparently used to collect campaign donations has been compromised and defaced](https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/secure-trump-website-defaced-by-hacker-claiming-to-be-from-iraq/). Yesterday afternoon, the site secure2[dot]donaldjtrump[dot]com was replaced with a film noir style image of a guy in a fedora, and the text: > > The site was down as of 4:00 PM Eastern yesterday. > > I was one of those who criticized Clinton for being an idiot with her email server, although it was not a big enough issue for me to keep me from voting for her. But after Trump and many of his supporters beat that issue to death, it’s surprising\* that Trump’s ineptitude in the security area is not getting more attention from Trump and criticism from his disappointed supporters. > > \*Not really surprising. For the record, it wasn’t me. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1512 "2017-02-20T18:00:06Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > For the record, it wasn’t me. Of course it wasn’t! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1513 "2017-02-20T18:53:53Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > For the record, it wasn’t me. You would say that, wouldn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1514 "2017-02-20T19:01:29Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > The news is reporting Congress – or some Senate committee? – has ordered the administration not to destroy ANY documents that may relate to Russian contacts by anyone on the Trump team. Could this be a second Watergate in the making? Or is this just purely routine? Or maybe this is just some more fake news. How’s that working for them??? Trump is very well known, from all his lawsuits, of “losing” documentation exactly when he needs to, even when judges order him to produce records. He will override or ignore any orders to not “lose” or destroy records same as always. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1515 "2017-02-20T19:02:21Z")
I don’t know if this belongs here, per se, but we’ve got [another dead Russian ambassador on our hands](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/russias-ambassador-united-nations-dies-nyc-64-45614567). Assassinated? Too soon to say, but the dude \*did \*drop dead suddenly at his desk in NYC after “falling ill” earlier in the day. Is that the sound of Trump’s anus puckering that I hear? I don’t know about you, but if I have any sort of connection to Moscow, “falling ill” would be one off my biggest fears. This is going to make a great movie someday. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1516 "2017-02-20T19:04:01Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I don’t know if this belongs here, per se, but we’ve got [another dead Russian ambassador on our hands](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/russias-ambassador-united-nations-dies-nyc-64-45614567). Assassinated? Too soon to say, but the dude \*did \*drop dead suddenly at his desk in NYC after “falling ill” earlier in the day. Is that the sound of Trump’s anus puckering that I hear? > > I don’t know about you, but if I have any sort of connection to Moscow, “falling ill” would be one off my biggest fears. > > This is going to make a great movie someday. Was there an umbrella lying nearby? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1517 "2017-02-20T19:12:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Was there an umbrella lying nearby? A felt-tip pen. The kind that can be read from across the room. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1518 "2017-02-20T19:15:35Z")
Man dies at the exact age he is expected to die as a Russian male (64). The real story here is: why are Russians so sick? Is it the vodka? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1519 "2017-02-20T19:22:26Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Man dies at the exact age he is expected to die as a Russian male (64). > > The real story here is: why are Russians so sick? Is it the vodka? The average life expectancy for Russian men isn’t because most die at 64, but because so many die before 55. So if you make it past 55 you should have more than 9 years left. This [article](http://www.upi.com/Twenty-five-percent-of-Russian-men-die-before-the-age-of-55/53201391229919/) does suggest it may be the vodka. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1520 "2017-02-20T19:24:47Z")
I’m familiar with that logic from infant mortality rates being factored into life expectancy, but I don’t think it works that way for drinking yourself to death. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=75) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=77)