# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 767
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15325 "2018-01-12T16:55:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And besides, both sides do it, amirite? :smack: Only in double slit configurations. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15326 "2018-01-12T17:51:10Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Christ, he’s really starting to lose it. It seems apparent that he is not as “sharp” as he was 20 or 10 or even 5 years ago. I feel like he was even more in control of his mental faculties when descended that escalator into our lives 2.5 years ago. So, if we are actually watching someone fall into senility or dementia, I’m wondering: Is there any typical timetable for how long the decline takes? What do we have to expect in the next year or three that he will perhaps be in our lives? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15327 "2018-01-12T18:35:54Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Well Trump has officially denied that he ever said it, so all is well then. Republicans might as well use Trump’s Roy Moore playbook and just repeat disingenuously: “Look, he denied it.” > > “Okay, but others were there and multiple witnesses said that he undeniably used this language.” > > “Right, but he denied that he said it. He’s entitled to a fair hearing.” > > Jesus Mary Mother of Christ! Would not surprise me in the least if the Republican party tried to pass a constitutional amendment outlawing wave function collapse. At least they’ve lost the “‘Person’s briefed about the meeting’, ‘anonymous sources’ whatever. #MAGA”-excuse after Senator Durbin confirmed the contents of the reports: > ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15328 "2018-01-12T18:42:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Only in double slit configurations. Single slits get grabbed. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15329 "2018-01-12T18:55:27Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > It seems apparent that he is not as “sharp” as he was 20 or 10 or even 5 years ago. I feel like he was even more in control of his mental faculties when descended that escalator into our lives 2.5 years ago. > > So, if we are actually watching someone fall into senility or dementia, I’m wondering: Is there any typical timetable for how long the decline takes? What do we have to expect in the next year or three that he will perhaps be in our lives? The rate at which one loses cognitive function due to mental degradation is often related to how much stress they are under. Does trump have a stressful job? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15330 "2018-01-12T18:57:09Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Does trump have a stressful job? I’m not sure. He seems to watch TV a lot. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15331 "2018-01-12T19:00:14Z")
Breaking news from my Twitter feed - “Entire squadron of F-52s defects to Nambia.” ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15332 "2018-01-12T19:04:54Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > I’m not sure. He seems to watch TV a lot. TV definitely has been stressing me out more in the past year+ for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15333 "2018-01-12T19:10:19Z")
> [@naita](#): > > At least they’ve lost the “‘Person’s briefed about the meeting’, ‘anonymous sources’ whatever. #MAGA”-excuse after Senator Durbin confirmed the contents of the reports: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/951822358649737217) That was an amazing albeit brief speech; thank you for that link **naita**. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15334 "2018-01-12T19:12:38Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Well Trump has officially denied that he ever said it, so all is well then. Republicans might as well use Trump’s Roy Moore playbook and just repeat disingenuously: “Look, he denied it.” > > “Okay, but others were there and multiple witnesses said that he undeniably used this language.” > > “Right, but he denied that he said it. He’s entitled to a fair hearing.” > > Jesus Mary Mother of Christ! Would not surprise me in the least if the Republican party tried to pass a constitutional amendment outlawing wave function collapse. And Senators Perdue and Cotton “don’t recall” Trump using those words. Shouldn’t they be paying attention when their President speaks? Or maybe they’re both experiencing rapid cognitive decline, and should be examined by a doctor. I mean, what other explanation could there be? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15335 "2018-01-12T19:14:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And Senators Perdue and Cotton “don’t recall” Trump using those words. > > Shouldn’t they be paying attention when their President speaks? Or maybe they’re both experiencing rapid cognitive decline, and should be examined by a doctor. I mean, what other explanation could there be? If they had an sense at all, they were listening to the Hamilton soundtrack during the meeting. I could get behind that explanation. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15336 "2018-01-12T19:16:46Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And Senators Perdue and Cotton “don’t recall” Trump using those words. > > Shouldn’t they be paying attention when their President speaks? Or maybe they’re both experiencing rapid cognitive decline, and should be examined by a doctor. I mean, what other explanation could there be? Cannabis is legal in the District of Columbia. I have heard that it can affect one’s memory. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15337 "2018-01-12T19:29:17Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > \*\*And Senators Perdue and Cotton “don’t recall” Trump using those words. \*\* And that’s exactly what I - and probably most of us here - predicted their response would be. It’s one thing for Eric Greitens to deny that he intended to blackmail his ex lover with revenge porn - that’s classic he said/she said. What the GOP is doing is trying to gaslight the country. Unfortunately, they’re probably correct in their assumptions that the average person just processes this as another day in Trumpland. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15338 "2018-01-12T19:50:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And Senators Perdue and Cotton “don’t recall” Trump using those words. It’s telling that they’re only going as far as saying they don’t recall it. They’re not actually denying it. They’re leaving themselves enough room to walk it back if and when Trump’s story collapses. I’ve noticed that this story is getting a different response than most of Trump’s screw-ups. Because even some Republicans are publicly condemning Trump. In some cases that might indicate genuine outrage. In other cases, it might be politicians reading the numbers and figuring they need to distance themselves from Trump to save their own careers. Either way, this could be the beginning of the real end for Trump. If Republicans decide that Trump is more dangerous as a friend than as an enemy, they’ll turn on him. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15339 "2018-01-12T19:54:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Either way, this could be the beginning of the real end for Trump. If Republicans decide that Trump is more dangerous as a friend than as an enemy, they’ll turn on him. Why yes, I’m sure optimism _is_ warranted this time! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15340 "2018-01-12T19:54:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Either way, this could be the beginning of the real end for Trump. If I had a nickel for every time I thought it was the beginning of the end for Trump, I’d have at least a couple dollars by now. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15341 "2018-01-12T20:04:17Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > If I had a nickel for every time I thought it was the beginning of the end for Trump, I’d have at least a couple dollars by now. It’s refreshing to not see exaggeration here. I’d have a couple of bucks too. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15342 "2018-01-12T20:07:46Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > If I had a nickel for every time I thought it was the beginning of the end for Trump, I’d have at least a couple dollars by now. My problem is that I pay hundreds of dollars for non refundable reservations for a celebration that it is is finally the beginning of the end for trump. That adds up fast, spare a nickel? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15343 "2018-01-12T20:25:46Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > God, I miss the wit and wisdom of George W Bush. During Obama’s two terms, my coworker had a picture of smirking Bush with the caption, “Miss me yet?” Yes, now I do. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15344 "2018-01-12T20:44:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ll have to go to the new embassy later this year to get my daughter’s passport renewed so we’ll see how that goes. Is it as horrible in person as it looks on my tv? I feel like we need start an apology tour for it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=766) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=768)