# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 768
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15345 "2018-01-12T20:47:53Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Is it as horrible in person as it looks on my tv? I feel like we need start an apology tour for it. I’ve only seen photos but I think it looks better than the [old one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_London#/media/File:US_Embassy_London_view_from_SE.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15346 "2018-01-12T20:49:15Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > The rate at which one loses cognitive function due to mental degradation is often related to how much stress they are under. > > Does trump have a stressful job? He could cut back on the stress of his main activity by switching from full-course golf to the putt-putt version (though he might still want to use a cart). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15347 "2018-01-12T20:49:49Z")
Wall Street Journal is reporting that a Trump lawyer arranged a $130,000 deal to keep a porn star quiet about her relationship with Trump. (I can only see the first part of this article because I don’t have a WSJ subscription) > **[Trump Lawyer Arranged $130,000 Payment for Adult-Film Star’s Silence](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678)** > > A lawyer for President Donald Trump arranged a $130,000 payment to a former adult-film star a month before the 2016 election as part of an agreement that precluded her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Mr. Trump. But the full story is at The Daily Beast > **[Report: Trump Lawyer Arranged $130K Hush Money to Keep Porn Star Quiet](https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-trump-lawyer-arranged-dollar130k-hush-money-to-keep-porn-star-quiet)** > > Cohen allegedly paid Stormy Daniels to keep silent about alleged Trump tryst. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15348 "2018-01-12T20:50:54Z")
Maybe we should consider if Trump is being an asshole like a fox? After all, no one is talking about the House’s vote for unlimited government surveillance, or how credulous and easily led the evangeliproles are. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15349 "2018-01-12T20:54:31Z")
> [@naita](#): > > At least they’ve lost the “‘Person’s briefed about the meeting’, ‘anonymous sources’ whatever. #MAGA”-excuse after Senator Durbin confirmed the contents of the reports: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/951822358649737217) It’s not often that I’m proud to be an Illinoisan, but when I am it’s usually due to Senators Durbin and/or Duckworth. (And Rep Mike Quigley – I live in his district.) ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15350 "2018-01-12T21:00:22Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Maybe we should consider if Trump is being an asshole like a fox? After all, no one is talking about the House’s vote for unlimited government surveillance, or how credulous and easily led the evangeliproles are. He posted about FISA and then changed his mind in the same day, so if he’s trying to distract us, tweeting about it confusingly isn’t exactly 12 D chess. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15351 "2018-01-12T21:08:12Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > He posted about FISA and then changed his mind in the same day, so if he’s trying to distract us, tweeting about it confusingly isn’t exactly 12 D chess. It isn’t even 2D chess. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15352 "2018-01-12T21:19:34Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It isn’t even 2D chess. It’s checkers on a board that’s just one row of squares. And all the pieces are the same color. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15353 "2018-01-12T21:26:51Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Anyone see comments from McConnell or Ryan? No, of course not. Forget I asked. :rolleyes: From the article in the other thread, Ryan calls it “very unfortunate, unhelpful” and actually says something positive about immigration. I hate Trump for making me think a shithole like Ryan is sometimes a reasonable guy. I’m sure it won’t last. \<\\> [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-acknowledges-tough-language-but-appears-to-deny-sthole-remark/ar-AAuAKbR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-acknowledges-tough-language-but-appears-to-deny-sthole-remark/ar-AAuAKbR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15354 "2018-01-12T21:29:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Single slits get grabbed. I’m not sure married ones are safe, though. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15355 "2018-01-12T21:29:10Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > So, if we are actually watching someone fall into senility or dementia, I’m wondering: Is there any typical timetable for how long the decline takes? What do we have to expect in the next year or three that he will perhaps be in our lives? We have a Presidential case study. President Reagan started noticeably having cognitive difficulty while still presidenting, which ended in 1989. He didn’t die until 2004, 15+ years later. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15356 "2018-01-12T21:35:42Z")
So apparently Sarah Huckabee canceled today’s press conference? Or was it always scheduled not to be held? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15357 "2018-01-12T21:36:04Z")
Trump’s lawyer [paid off a porn star](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678) a month before the election to cover up Trump’s affair. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15358 "2018-01-12T21:36:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Wall Street Journal is reporting that a Trump lawyer arranged a $130,000 deal to keep a porn star quiet about her relationship with Trump. > (I can only see the first part of this article because I don’t have a WSJ subscription) > [https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-arranged-130-000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence-1515787678) > > But the full story is at The Daily Beast > [Report: Trump Lawyer Arranged $130K Hush Money to Keep Porn Star Quiet](https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-trump-lawyer-arranged-dollar130k-hush-money-to-keep-porn-star-quiet) Now would be about the right time for TV producer Mark Burnett to finally release those “Apprentice” outtake tapes, of Trump discussing women’s body parts and using the “N” word. > [@](#): > > Burnett issued a statement late Monday, attempting to deflect growing calls for the executive producer of Trump’s The Apprentice reality series to produce any video or audiotapes of Trump talking about women in sexist and obscene terms from the 14 seasons he starred on Apprentice. > No can do, Burnett says. (from an October 2016 story) [Mark Burnett of 'Apprentice' tells why he can't release Trump tapes (if they exist)](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2016/10/10/mark-burnett-apprentice-cant-release-trump-tapes/91875804/) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15359 "2018-01-12T21:39:54Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > “First thing that came to my mind was: Very unfortunate, unhelpful,” he said. “But you know what I thought of right away? I thought about my own family. … It is a beautiful story of America, and that is a great story and that is the story we have today and that is a story we had yesterday and that is what makes this country so exceptional and unique in the first place. So I see this as a thing to celebrate, and I think it’s a big part of our strength.”\>\> What a pathetic, weasel-worded “condemnation.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15360 "2018-01-12T21:49:06Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Now would be about the right time for TV producer Mark Burnett to finally release those “Apprentice” outtake tapes, of Trump discussing women’s body parts and using the “N” word. Save them for Trump’s presidential library. It’s not like there are going to be _books_ there. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15361 "2018-01-12T21:54:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Save them for Trump’s presidential library. It’s not like there are going to be _books_ there. “Yes, folks, today we are proud to inaugurate the first All-Tweets Presidential Library!” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15362 "2018-01-12T22:10:30Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Save them for Trump’s presidential library. It’s not like there are going to be _books_ there. Heh. True enough. > [@digs](#): > > “Yes, folks, today we are proud to inaugurate the first All-Tweets Presidential Library!” “Tweets, plus tapes made by people who could not BELIEVE what was coming out of this guy’s pie-hole, and therefore recorded it to prove they hadn’t dreamed it!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15363 "2018-01-12T22:14:02Z")
And maybe a small video room in the back that’s separated from the rest of the library by a curtain. You must be 21 to enter. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15364 "2018-01-12T22:17:15Z")
Haven’t been 21 for…a while. Don’t really want to go in, anyway, but exclusion annoys me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=767) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=769)