# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1521 "2017-02-20T19:29:00Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I’m familiar with that logic from infant mortality rates being factored into life expectancy, but I don’t think it works that way for drinking yourself to death. Is there any evidence he drank himself to death? The article I posted does blame vodka but: The study said heavy drinkers mainly die from alcohol poisoning, accidents, violence, suicide, cancer, tuberculosis, pneumonia, pancreatitis, liver disease and heart disease, RIA Novosti reported. So even when vodka is a culprit actual cause of death may be quite different. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1522 "2017-02-20T19:36:55Z")
I have no idea. My point is just that, without knowing more (like that he is unusually healthy), this is not an unusual death. It would help Americans to imagine the story as if the man were 78 and died unexpectedly. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1523 "2017-02-20T20:12:28Z")
Trump has appointed McMaster as National Security Advisor. That should make all of us sleep a little better. He is a perfectly sane person. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1524 "2017-02-20T20:14:55Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Trump has appointed McMaster as National Security Advisor. > > That should make all of us sleep a little better. He is a perfectly sane person. How long will he last? IOW how long until he puts his foot in it? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1525 "2017-02-20T20:54:43Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Was there an umbrella lying nearby? It was telling the truth and had a rock-solid alibi. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1526 "2017-02-20T22:47:58Z")
Trump should be worried. [Trump motorcade hit by 2x4, 5 students face charges](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trump-motorcade-hit-2x4-students-face-charges-45588725) > [@](#): > > Authorities say a vehicle in President Donald Trump’s motorcade was struck by a “2x4” and _five middle school students_ are now facing charges. > > Palm Beach County Sheriff’s office spokeswoman Teri Barbera said in a statement Saturday that the incident happened Friday around 1:45 p.m. > > Officers assisting the U.S. Secret Service reported that a vehicle in the motorcade had been struck by what was believed to be a small, hard object. > > Several members of the motorcade returned to the scene after completing the motorcade to look for witnesses and objects along the roadway. > > A child from a local middle school confessed to throwing the wood at the motorcade and also implicated four additional students. > > Charges will be filed with the Palm Beach County States Attorney’s Office. > > No additional information was given. If the Secret Service can’t even spot kids with a length of wood and they got close enough to throw it, Trump is in trouble. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1527 "2017-02-20T23:20:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Was there an umbrella lying nearby? No, but there was a report of strange [laughter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rag_UHK5lT0) being overheard. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1528 "2017-02-21T04:07:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How long will he last? IOW how long until he puts his foot in it? Really. How long will he last, before he quits or gets fired? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1529 "2017-02-21T04:43:24Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Really. How long will he last, before he quits or gets fired? Before he pisses off the pope and gets shown the door. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1530 "2017-02-22T04:58:40Z")
[Trump’s federal hiring freeze has required two military bases to curtail or shut down its daycare programs because they can’t hire people to replace those workers who are leaving.](http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/02/21/federal-hiring-freeze-suspends-army-child-care-programs.html) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1531 "2017-02-22T13:50:23Z")
We interrupt this thread wiith the following. Some people on this planet are into [something good.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D27HlqEZWiY) Carry on with . . . whatever. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1532 "2017-02-22T15:32:56Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I don’t know if this belongs here, per se, but we’ve got [another dead Russian ambassador on our hands](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/russias-ambassador-united-nations-dies-nyc-64-45614567). Assassinated? Too soon to say, but the dude \*did \*drop dead suddenly at his desk in NYC after “falling ill” earlier in the day. Is that the sound of Trump’s anus puckering that I hear? > > I don’t know about you, but if I have any sort of connection to Moscow, “falling ill” would be one off my biggest fears. > > This is going to make a great movie someday. Russians dead since Steele Dossier: Erovinkin, Krivov, Karlov, Melanin, Chandelon, Polshikov, Churkin all connected to Dossier. [NYC medical examiner says more study needed in death of Russian diplomat](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyc-medical-examiner-says-more-study-needed-in-death-of-russian-diplomat/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=34735711) Yesterday, Spain arrested Manafort associate (to put it nicely) Firtash hours after he was supposed to be extradited to Chicago on racketeering charges. The US Justice Department had been trying to extradite him from Austria for three years. Whether this is an attempt to prevent him from spilling what he knows about Trump-Russia ties is unknown. One wonders if Manafort knows too much and now has an iffy life expectancy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1533 "2017-02-22T15:38:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Trump’s federal hiring freeze has required two military bases to curtail or shut down its daycare programs because they can’t hire people to replace those workers who are leaving.](http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/02/21/federal-hiring-freeze-suspends-army-child-care-programs.html) This is easy to deal with, at least in some cases. The remaining daycare staff can be assigned to caring for the children of people who didn’t support Trump, and the children of Trump supporters can do without. It’s what they wanted, after all. It’s what they voted for. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1534 "2017-02-22T15:41:32Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Russians dead since Steele Dossier: Erovinkin, Krivov, Karlov, Melanin, Chandelon, Polshikov, Churkin all connected to Dossier. Well that’s not fishy at all. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1535 "2017-02-22T19:20:24Z")
As hard as it may be to believe, Betsy DeVos is actually defending transgender kids in a fight with Jeff Sessions. > **[Trump Rescinds Rules on Bathrooms for Transgender Students (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html)** > > The administration reversed a policy that allowed students to use the bathrooms of their choice at school, an order that caused an internal rift. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1536 "2017-02-22T19:38:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > As hard as it may be to believe, Betsy DeVos is actually defending transgender kids in a fight with Jeff Sessions. > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html) But in the end… > [@](#): > > Mr. Trump sided with his attorney general, these Republicans said, telling Ms. DeVos in a meeting in the Oval Office on Tuesday that he wanted her to drop her objections. And Ms. DeVos, faced with the choice of resigning or defying the president, has agreed to go along. The Justice Department declined to comment on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1537 "2017-02-22T19:38:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > As hard as it may be to believe, Betsy DeVos is actually defending transgender kids in a fight with Jeff Sessions. > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html) Folded like a napkin, she did. > [@](#): > > Mr. Trump sided with his attorney general, these Republicans said, telling Ms. DeVos in a meeting in the Oval Office on Tuesday that he wanted her to drop her objections.\*\* And Ms. DeVos, faced with the choice of resigning or defying the president, has agreed to go along.\*\* The Justice Department declined to comment on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1538 "2017-02-22T19:47:47Z")
Making america Great Again, ala [Shit For Brains](http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-trump-deportation-job-market-20170222-story.html). ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1539 "2017-02-22T19:54:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Folded like a napkin, she did. Fine tuned machine. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1540 "2017-02-22T20:30:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > As hard as it may be to believe, Betsy DeVos is actually defending transgender kids in a fight with Jeff Sessions. > [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/politics/devos-sessions-transgender-students-rights.html) What’s also interesting is that we know about these internal “discussions” at all…and apparently it’s because of “3 Republicans” with inside knowledge, who have no compunctions at all about picking up the phone and spilling to the NY Times. Sad! Actually, it’s very happy. This administration leaks like a sieve and it’s a beautiful thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=78)