# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15405 "2018-01-13T04:27:03Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Why yes, I’m sure optimism _is_ warranted this time!

Republicans have seen what happened to Roy Moore: black voters turned out in record numbers for a non-presidential election. If that happens this November, the Republicans are in huge trouble. They can’t afford a President who motivates people to show up to vote against his party, even if he’s not on the ballot.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15406 "2018-01-13T04:31:29Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Sorry, shithole-gate is more scandalous IMHO.

I realize there have been seven or eight new Trump scandals since Wednesday but I think the Deutsche Bank scandal is the biggest one this week.

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**Author:** ![GinoC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@GinoC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GinoC)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15407 "2018-01-13T04:32:27Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Didi you put the air quotes around Excellent? Or was that a direct quote from the Dr at Walter Feed?

Yeah, I think there need to be more details. Perhaps he meant “excellent considering he is an overweight man of advancing years who eats a crap diet, has major stress issues, and rapidly declining cognitive abilities”.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15408 "2018-01-13T04:41:34Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> While he was married. And his wife was pregnant. So, the good Christians in the Republican party will certainly have a problem with it, I’m sure.

I"m sure they will. How dare that evil hussy use her wiles to tempt such a good, Christian, family man.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15409 "2018-01-13T04:55:24Z")

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Most white christians aren’t really religious and don’t believe in God. They just use God to make their existence on earth better. Living a Christian life isn’t what matters. Being white and having attended church or owning a hand-me-down family bible is what matters.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15410 "2018-01-13T05:16:55Z")

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Umm… Correct me if I’m wrong. But Melania did some soft core ‘lesbian’ porn didn’t she? And trump had some modeling agencies I think. hmmm.

Melania is just a gold digger, we know that. And I suspect she is much, much more intelligent than trump and caught up in a mess. Don’t really give a shit about her, but if it was the shoe was on the other foot, republicans would be having kittens about a President marred to an eastern European woman that had done porn. I guess there really is no need to bring more of their hypocrisy into it, but sheeesss.

I also wonder if Melania has been in any way a comfort to trump as a person that would maybe say a kind word to him, and if she knew about his… indiscretions with other women.

I would guess that Melania did know, but now that it is becoming more public, she will feel that this will be an incredible insult to her.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15411 "2018-01-13T05:26:25Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Here’s a headline I never expected to see, from Politico: [Demoralized Trump aides grapple with ‘shithole’-gate](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/12/trump-shithole-comment-aides-react-337961)

Demoralized? They all knew he was a scumbag anyway. They are getting exactly what they signed up for.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15412 "2018-01-13T05:29:31Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> While he was married. And his wife was pregnant. So, the good Christians in the Republican party will certainly have a problem with it, I’m sure.

The good christians that support him and support Arpaio and support Roy Moore? Those good christians?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15413 "2018-01-13T05:31:40Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> The good christians that support him and support Arpaio and support Roy Moore? Those good christians?

Not even Cafeteria Christians. They’re dumpster-diving Freegan Christians .

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15414 "2018-01-13T05:33:10Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Most white christians aren’t really religious and don’t believe in God. They just use God to make their existence on earth better. Living a Christian life isn’t what matters. Being white and having attended church or owning a hand-me-down family bible is what matters.

This.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15415 "2018-01-13T05:42:13Z")

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I bet this news has people scrambling to porn sites to look her up. So to speak. **GIGO? Vinny**? What are you seeing at your favorites? Just the top five, quick overview.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15416 "2018-01-13T06:02:56Z")

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A second porn star says that the first one AND Trump invited her to a threesome.

> **[Second porn star claims President Trump invited her to hotel room wearing...](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/porn-star-claims-trump-daniels-invited-hotel-room-article-1.3754209)**
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> "Picture him chasing me around his hotel room in his tighty-whities," the porn star said Daniels told her.

James O’Keefe, in his upcoming book, says that Trump asked him to break into Columbia University to steal Obama’s records.

> **[James O'Keefe says Trump asked him to go on birther-linked mission](https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/12/media/james-okeefe-trump-obama-columbia-records/index.html)**
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> Donald Trump in 2013 asked James O'Keefe, the controversial conservative filmmaker, if he could "get inside" Columbia University and obtain President Obama's sealed college records, according to a passage in O'Keefe's forthcoming book.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15417 "2018-01-13T06:06:04Z")

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What happened to Trump’s Fake News awards, that were supposed to come out Wednesday and then again, today?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15418 "2018-01-13T06:08:13Z")

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That is _sooo_ last week!

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15419 "2018-01-13T06:09:58Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Most white christians aren’t really religious and don’t believe in God. They just use God to make their existence on earth better. Living a Christian life isn’t what matters. Being white and having attended church or owning a hand-me-down family bible is what matters.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> This.

This again. I’ve said the same thing myself various times on this message board.

The meme that the U.S. is such a religious, God-fearing country is bull. Americans just like to _ **say** _ they’re religious and believe in God.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15420 "2018-01-13T06:14:53Z")

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So, what WILL precipitate Trump’s downfall? It’s gotta happen, right?

☹

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15421 "2018-01-13T06:29:09Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Melania is just a gold digger, we know that. And I suspect she is much, much more intelligent than trump and caught up in a mess. Don’t really give a shit about her, but if it was the shoe was on the other foot, republicans would be having kittens about a President marred to an eastern European woman that had done porn.

If Melania were so intelligent, she would not have chose to campaign against cyberbullying since her husband is the world’s number one cyberbully.

She did nude modeling but she did not have sex on film. In my opinion, she didn’t do porn although YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15422 "2018-01-13T06:29:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> James O’Keefe, in his upcoming book, says that Trump asked him to break into Columbia University to steal Obama’s records.  
> [James O'Keefe says Trump asked him to go on birther-linked mission](http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/12/media/james-okeefe-trump-obama-columbia-records/index.html)

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> O’Keefe wrote that during the 2013 meeting Trump suggested O’Keefe infiltrate Columbia and obtain the sealed records: “‘Nobody else can get this information,’” O’Keefe quoted Trump as saying. “‘Do you think you could get inside Columbia?’”  
> O’Keefe said he explained to Trump that the request did not fall into his “line of work,” and that he considered himself and his colleagues to be journalists, not “private eyes.”

I don’t know what’s more surprising; that Trump thought O’Keefe could infiltrate Columbia and get Obama’s records, or that _O’Keefe has journalistic standards._

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15423 "2018-01-13T12:14:41Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> So, what WILL precipitate Trump’s downfall? It’s gotta happen, right?
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> ☹

As long as Republicans have the congressional majority: nothing will. Possibly Mueller, but that’s wisful thinking IMO.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15424 "2018-01-13T13:18:29Z")

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It would also really, really help if news outlets would stop asking _if_ the president actually said the word “shithole,” as if there is a legitimate doubt about the veracity of eyewitness reports. We can simply assume that it was said and that the anti-truth party will simply deny reality.

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