# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15465 "2018-01-14T07:14:44Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> My honest impression of Melania Trump is that she is stupid.

My impression of her is that she is scared.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15466 "2018-01-14T07:34:50Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> My impression of her is that she is scared.

I have thought this too. She may be mainly afraid of her being shamed or sued beyond belief if she ever says anything against or even mildly anti-orange yam in this whole mess.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15467 "2018-01-14T12:51:12Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Well, Kennedy had Marilyn Monroe, who was also literally a porn star, though 50s style.

Actually, no. She had done some spreads but most of her job was mainstream.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15468 "2018-01-14T14:36:34Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> My impression of her is that she is scared.

Her husband’s supporters are xenophobes, and she is an immigrant who doesn’t speak 100% perfect English. Of course she’s scared.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15469 "2018-01-14T14:42:19Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Her husband’s supporters are xenophobes, and she is an immigrant who doesn’t speak 100% perfect English. Of course she’s scared.

Remember, during the campaign, there was a question of whether she had been working here illegally.  
And there will be no pardon coming from her husband. There’s a pre-nup at stake.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15470 "2018-01-14T14:46:10Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I have thought this too. She may be mainly afraid of her being shamed or sued beyond belief if she ever says anything against or even mildly anti-orange yam in this whole mess.

Does she even have a dime in her own name? The pre-nup is probably more complicated and convoluted than trumps tax returns.

Anyone that is willingly close to trump has been shamed. And shammed.

And yes. I suspect she is scared.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15471 "2018-01-14T14:55:36Z")

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Melania knows how ruthless Donald can be, and she also knows that he tends to get away with whatever he wants to do to people. Who wouldn’t be scared? It’s like being married into the mob.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15472 "2018-01-14T16:08:48Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Does she even have a dime in her own name? The pre-nup is probably more complicated and convoluted than trumps tax returns.
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> Anyone that is willingly close to trump has been shamed. And shammed.
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> And yes. I suspect she is scared.

If Tom Steyer really wanted to fight Trump, he should set up legal defense funds and financial support for all these women. Much more effective than impeachment ads.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15473 "2018-01-14T16:12:29Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> If Tom Steyer really wanted to fight Trump, he should set up legal defense funds and financial support for all these women. Much more effective than impeachment ads.

That’s a really good idea.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15474 "2018-01-14T16:55:53Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Melania knows how ruthless Donald can be, and she also knows that he tends to get away with whatever he wants to do to people. Who wouldn’t be scared? It’s like being married into the mob.

To be fair, Trump’s other ex-wives have done OK for themselves.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15475 "2018-01-14T17:20:53Z")

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The difference being that it was Trump who wanted the divorce because he had a new one.  
On the other way round they would’ve been destroyed.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15476 "2018-01-14T18:00:46Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> [To be fair, Trump’s other ex-wives have done OK for themselves.

I have to believe n that both Ivana and Marla have divorce settlements that take care of them quite well, in exchange for very punitive legal language in which they’ve agreed to never say a negative word about Donald.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15477 "2018-01-14T18:02:14Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Saw this on Snopes:
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> [World Media Struggle to Translate Trump’s Africa Insult](https://www.snopes.com/2018/01/13/world-media-struggle-translate-trumps-africa-insult/?utm_source=bme&utm_medium=manual&utm_campaign=saturday_update&bt_ee=6DvkqHOLvbL5hUFJTNY42qU6I+MDVV3UfuobANuvqw1QSKuL5xwBdvn6XthOLZhh&bt_ts=1515878480523&utm_source=bme&utm_medium=manual&utm_campaign=saturday_update&bt_ee=WLLQCiuiqWJzA/3hwFzNAeokdnfImrYws/sdkDbQ7x9P+spyWOsjkhYd5HQ5GLuL&bt_ts=1515878480415)

“cesspit” is perfect

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15478 "2018-01-14T18:30:01Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I have to believe n that both Ivana and Marla have divorce settlements that take care of them quite well, in exchange for very punitive legal language in which they’ve agreed to never say a negative word about Donald.

Yep. This was detailed in a book put together by the WSJ a while back called Trump Revealed. Marla was getting 350,000 per month alimony contingent on a non-disclosure agreement with Twitler.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15479 "2018-01-14T18:42:51Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Does she even have a dime in her own name? The pre-nup is probably more complicated and convoluted than trumps tax returns.

How much would Melania Trump get in a book deal if she went to a publisher and said “I wanna write/have written for me, a biography. The title should be Me Too, and I’ll let you guess from that what he contents will be”? She’d get a hundred million dollars. They couldn’t print them fast enough.

The kind of joke narrative about Melania Trump is that she’s a prisoner of the marriage. I think a likelier explanation is that she actually likes being married to Donald Trump. I think it’s quite possible she kind of agrees with Trump on a lot of things. She might well be a racist.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15480 "2018-01-14T18:59:36Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> How much would Melania Trump get in a book deal if she went to a publisher and said “I wanna write/have written for me, a biography. The title should be Me Too, and I’ll let you guess from that what he contents will be”? She’d get a hundred million dollars. They couldn’t print them fast enough.
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> The kind of joke narrative about Melania Trump is that she’s a prisoner of the marriage. I think a likelier explanation is that she actually likes being married to Donald Trump. I think it’s quite possible she kind of agrees with Trump on a lot of things. She might well be a racist.

There could be a NDA in along with the pre-nup, which would also take any earning she may make by spilling the “fake news” of her experiences with trump.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15481 "2018-01-14T19:53:01Z")

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The First Slut will begin separation proceedings with преЦАРдент Trump this October.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15482 "2018-01-14T20:30:13Z")

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The fact is that we (the general public) know next to NOTHING about the private Melania Trump, so all of this speculation and chin-wagging is 100% pointless. And boring. Even more pointless and boring than some of the other tangents this board has flown off on.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15483 "2018-01-14T20:36:26Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The fact is that we (the general public) know next to NOTHING about the private Melania Trump, so all of this speculation and chin-wagging is 100% pointless. And boring. Even more pointless and boring than some of the other tangents this board has flown off on.

Agreed.

But the first lady (or first husband) is always part of the clusterfuck. 😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15484 "2018-01-14T20:37:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The fact is that we (the general public) know next to NOTHING about the **private Melania Trump** , so all of this speculation and chin-wagging is 100% pointless. And boring. Even more pointless and boring than some of the other tangents this board has flown off on.

We know more about her private parts than we do about her public parts.

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