# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 776
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15505 "2018-01-16T02:35:05Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Silly press woman. She buys one of those voice thingies and then [complains](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/sarah-sanders-uses-white-house-twitter-account-complain-alexa-ordered-a-batman-toy-1074643) when her kid yells at it until it gives him a toy. > > What a fucking maroon. You get one of those things in order to buy stuff. Stop bitching about it working right. Wait, it sends me a toy rather than contacting the actual Batman? Fuck it, I’m going back to the Bat Signal. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15506 "2018-01-16T06:04:05Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I have thought this too. She may be mainly afraid of her being shamed or sued beyond belief if she ever says anything against or even mildly anti-orange yam in this whole mess. or beat up? Trump is a bully and always has been, so violence would not be out of the question - as long as it’s someone smaller and weaker. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15507 "2018-01-16T06:06:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Loser Donald claims the Wall Street Journal misquoted him as saying “I probably have a very good relationship with Kim Jong-Un” when he actually said “I’d”, and then [releases an audio recording of the interview that proves the WSJ right.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/trump-gets-into-spat-with-wall-street-journal-says-he-was-misquoted.html) > > Sad! and accuses them of FAKE NEWS. What an asshole. Why won’t he just die already? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15508 "2018-01-16T11:07:08Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > But it’s also very simple to go into the Echo settings (on the web or on the Alexa app) and disable voice purchasing, or set it to require a confirmation code. And of course, the account holder will get an e-mail notice any time a purchase is made through the Echo, with plenty of time available to cancel the order. Plenty of time to make the order in a way that (unlike a two-year-old yelling “NaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBatman\*”) will actually work, take a screenshot for brown-nose points in the boss’ feud with Bezos, and then cancel the order. \*It occurs to me that if it worked like Hucky Boo Boo wants us to believe, these figures would have sold out to people watching DVDs/reruns of the Adam West series. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15509 "2018-01-16T12:51:44Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Hucky Boo Boo Perfect 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15510 "2018-01-16T15:40:34Z")
[Der Spiegel](http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/donald-trump-white-house-goes-from-bad-to-worse-a-1187580.html) sums up well what the world thinks of the USA under thump: > [@](#): > > The Blight House > **Trump’s Presidency Sinks Below Rock Bottom** > > …Trump has transformed the U.S. into a country without a leader. There is hardly a diplomat or head of government anymore who takes what the president says seriously. America can no longer be relied upon. > > In just 12 months in office, Trump has made a nuclear war with North Korea conceivable and undermined the principle of international cooperation by terminating trade deals, weakening climate protection, cutting funding for UN organizations and questioning the nuclear deal with Iran. In doing so, he has not only endangered the Western model, but also liberal democracy itself. > > And as Wolff’s book shows, it all comes out of a combination of ignorance, narcissism, hunger for power and a lack of compassion. The book’s publication marks a new low point in U.S. history – even for those who thought the country had already hit rock bottom. > … The USA hasn’t hit rock bottom \*yet \*IMHO. There’s plenty of room for thump to descent even lower. And he will. There’s no doubt of that. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15511 "2018-01-16T16:12:58Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > The Echo (Alexa) needs to be associated with an Amazon account to work, and most users have a credit card number on file to allow 1-click orders. And voice purchasing _is_ enabled by default on the Echo. I’ve never used one of these devices, but is it reasonable to believe that it may place the order a specific Batman toy just from a little kid yelling “Batman”? That sounds like a stretch to me. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15512 "2018-01-16T16:23:20Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I’ve never used one of these devices, but is it reasonable to believe that it may place the order a specific Batman toy just from a little kid yelling “Batman”? That sounds like a stretch to me. I agree. How would it know what particular Batman toy to send? How could it assume authorization? If it was true, everyone who has the device in their bedroom would be inundated with Bibles for all the “Oh GOD!” cries. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15513 "2018-01-16T16:47:32Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I agree. How would it know what particular Batman toy to send? How could it assume authorization? If it was true, everyone who has the device in their bedroom would be inundated with Bibles for all the “Oh GOD!” cries. Alexa: Please confirm your order: Oh YES YES YES! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15514 "2018-01-16T16:56:35Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I agree. How would it know what particular Batman toy to send? How could it assume authorization? If it was true, everyone who has the device in their bedroom would be inundated with Bibles for all the “Oh GOD!” cries. “Wow, that must have been a big one, Sarah. Your eyelashes fell off”. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15515 "2018-01-16T17:15:09Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I don’t have an alexa but in order for that to work, there would have to be an account associated with the Alexa or at least a credit card, no? I do have an Alexa, and I don’t even know how to fuck to make that thing order stuff for me. I would assume there’s at least a layer or two of authorization involved, but I (and nobody I know) has ever used it for actually ordering stuff. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15516 "2018-01-16T17:26:39Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I’ve never used one of these devices, but is it reasonable to believe that it may place the order a specific Batman toy just from a little kid yelling “Batman”? That sounds like a stretch to me. Writing Batman on Amazon’s search gives 104,820 results. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15517 "2018-01-16T17:33:14Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Writing Batman on Amazon’s search gives 104,820 results. Basically - this was yet antoher attack on Amazon by the administration - one that thier base will just lap up. Has nothing to do with reality. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15518 "2018-01-16T17:38:19Z")
Hoping to put this discussion back on track. _"Alexa! Hibernate!_ Aren’t we supposed to get a detailed report today on thump’s physical? I want to hear the excellent nitty gritty on his excellent health. Weight, BMI, fasting blood sugar, cholesterol, blood pressure—you know, the good stuff. Any bets on whether such a detailed report will be forthcoming today or ever? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15519 "2018-01-16T17:41:08Z")
[Any moment now.](http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/16/donald-trump-physical/) Anyone’s guess if it will be another whitewash or not. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15520 "2018-01-16T17:49:22Z")
“Whitewash” implies there was a honest physical to whitewash in the first place. I’m not sure you can say that when his doctor is the Hamburglar. ETA: In September it was claimed Trump weighs 236 pounds. That is absolutely a falsehood. A man his height (he’s upwards of six-three) who’s that pudgy is 260, 270 at the absolute minimum. If I was the guy at the carnival who had to guess his weight I’d probably go with 285 or so. When I weighed 236 pounds I looked like Kate Middleton next to that lardass, and I’m two inches shorter. So his doctors seem happy to lie. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15521 "2018-01-16T17:56:22Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > “Whitewash” implies there was a honest physical to whitewash in the first place. I’m not sure you can say that when his doctor is the Hamburglar. > > ETA: In September it was claimed Trump weighs 236 pounds. That is absolutely a falsehood. A man his height (he’s upwards of six-three) who’s that pudgy is 260, 270 at the absolute minimum. If I was the guy at the carnival who had to guess his weight I’d probably go with 285 or so. When I weighed 236 pounds I looked like Kate Middleton next to that lardass, and I’m two inches shorter. So his doctors seem happy to lie. The doctor in this case is [an admiral](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson) who was appointed by Obama. ETA: I have seen it reported in various places that Trump lies about his height so that his BMI will be in the overweight range instead of the obese range. I have also seen photos of him side by side with Obama in which he appears to be the same height of slightly shorter than Obama. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15522 "2018-01-16T18:00:35Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > The doctor in this case is [an admiral](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson) who was appointed by Obama. And he’s the doc who examined Obama. So if thump does indeed get an excellent/stellar/perfect health report, one is forced to conclude that thump’s people are holding the admiral’s cat\* hostage somewhere. This is derived from one of my mother’s favorite sayings when someone would say, “I’m sorry,” to wit: _“‘Sorry’ doesn’t feed the admiral’s cat.”_ ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15523 "2018-01-16T18:01:27Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > “Whitewash” implies there was a honest physical to whitewash in the first place. I’m not sure you can say that when his doctor is the Hamburglar. In this case, the physician who conducted the physical last week wasn’t Trump’s wacky personal doctor, but [Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson), who holds the office of Physician to the President, and was appointed to the office by Obama. However, the initial press release from the White House about the physical, last week, included a quote, allegedly from Jackson, stating that it “went exceptionally well,” but then misspelled Jackson’s name (lending credence to those convinced that there could be some shenanigans involved in this physical). _Edit: ninja’d by Croaltus and ThelmaLou._ ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15524 "2018-01-16T18:14:08Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > In this case, the physician who conducted the physical last week wasn’t Trump’s wacky personal doctor, but [Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson), who holds the office of Physician to the President, and was appointed to the office by Obama. > > However, the initial press release from the White House about the physical, last week, included a quote, allegedly from Jackson, stating that it “went exceptionally well,” but then misspelled Jackson’s name (lending credence to those convinced that there could be some shenanigans involved in this physical). > > _Edit: ninja’d by Croaltus and ThelmaLou._ Rachel Maddow pointed out the misspelling of Ronny/Ronnie Jackson’s name last week. Another website pointing this out seems to have disappeared, but as of this writing, this one still has it: > **[Trump Accused Of Faking ‘Excellent Health’ Doctor’s Note, Spelling Ronny...](https://www.inquisitr.com/4736024/trump-accused-of-faking-excellent-health-doctors-note-spelling-ronny-jacksons-name-incorrectly-as-ronnie)** > > President Donald Trump may have left Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Friday with reports of “excellent health” in his wake, but controversy has followed that statement as well. Rumors floated around Twitter in the aftermath of the... > [@](#): > > Now eagle-eyed readers are noticing incorrect things about Trump’s short statement about the doctor allegedly professing Trump was “in excellent health” that have publications like the Root asking, “Did the White House Fake Trump’s Physical Results?” That’s because Ronny Jackson is the name of Trump’s physician. However, the statement released by the White House included the signature of “Dr. Ronnie Jackson,” a statement that clearly misspelled the doctor’s first name. > > As seen in the article from Fox News titled “White House physician: Trump in ‘excellent health’,” which was published on Friday, January 12, the original statement still visible in Google shows that the doctor’s name was originally misspelled as Ronnie and has since been corrected to Ronny. Is there a reason for the apparent spelling error? Did the Maddowblog learn about this and thus didn’t post about it? something odd here. Here, too: > **[Did the White House Fake Trump’s Physical Results?](https://www.theroot.com/did-the-white-house-fake-trump-s-physical-results-1822067412)** > > We all waited with bated breath for President Donald Trump’s physical results —asking how in the world could this rotund, KFC-and-McDonald’s-eating 71-year-old be in decent health? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=775) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=777)