# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1541 "2017-02-22T21:34:14Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> This is easy to deal with, at least in some cases. The remaining daycare staff can be assigned to caring for the children of people who didn’t support Trump, and the children of Trump supporters can do without. It’s what they wanted, after all. It’s what they voted for.

My first thought when I read this article was, “good.” Those in the military voted overwhelmingly for Trump. This is what they wanted.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1542 "2017-02-24T04:42:02Z")

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[Border Patrol checking “papers” on domestic flights](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/border-patrol-agents-stop-domestic-travelers-at-new-york-airport-w468643). Well, at least one.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1543 "2017-02-24T17:10:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Border Patrol checking “papers” on domestic flights](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/border-patrol-agents-stop-domestic-travelers-at-new-york-airport-w468643). Well, at least one.

They’ve been doing this for many years at the Buffalo main Amtrak station to wholly domestic trains (not just the NYC-Toronto _Maple Leaf_) simply because it’s near(ish) the border. [Lots of Border Patrol on the Lake Shore Limited material here.](https://www.google.com/search?q=CBP+searching+Lake+Shore+Limited&rlz=1C1FLDB_enUS513US513&oq=CBP+searching+Lake+Shore+Limited&aqs=chrome..69i57.12575j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1544 "2017-02-24T19:07:10Z")

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Somebody handed out Russian flags with Trump’s name on them at CPAC, and the attendees were waving them enthusiastically during Trump’s speech, till staffers came around to collect them.

> **[CPAC scrambles to control damage after attendees wave Russian flags during...](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/cpac-scrambles-to-control-damage-after-attendees-wave-russian-flags-during-trump-speech/)**
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> Staffers at CPAC quickly scrambled to confiscate Russian flags with the word "TRUMP" written on the front that were being waved by attendees during President Donald Trump's speech on Friday.The trouble began when some attendees took out pro-Trump...

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1545 "2017-02-24T19:08:30Z")

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Trump to press: “[No more anonymous sources!](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-demands-no-anonymous-sources-w-h-briefing-article-1.2981338) Print the source’s name [sub]so I know who to go after![/sub]”

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1546 "2017-02-24T19:18:09Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Trump to press: “[No more anonymous sources!](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-demands-no-anonymous-sources-w-h-briefing-article-1.2981338) Print the source’s name [sub]so I know who to go after![/sub]”

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> Bringing the point home Friday to the CPAC crowd, Trump painted the media as “very smart, very cunning, and very dishonest” and advocated for exposing “their false stories.”
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> “No one loves the First Amendment more than me,” the president said before again making an us-versus-them claim that media corporations “have their own agenda and its not your agenda.”
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> **“We’re gonna do something about it,” Trump vowed.**

What is this So-Called president gonna do?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1547 "2017-02-24T19:25:02Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> What is this So-Called president gonna do?

He’s gonna grab the first amendment by the pussy of course.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1548 "2017-02-24T19:25:41Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> What is this So-Called president gonna do?

The same so-called president that once posed as his own press secretary to plant fake stories in the media?

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1549 "2017-02-24T19:59:01Z")

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> CNN and other news outlets were blocked Friday from an off-camera White House press briefing, raising alarm among media organizations and First Amendment watchdogs.
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> The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and Politico were also excluded from the meeting, which is known as a gaggle and is less formal than the televised Q-and-A session in the White House briefing room. The gaggle was held by White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

> **[White House blocks news organizations from press briefing](https://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/index.html)**
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> CNN, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and Politico were among the news outlets excluded.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1550 "2017-02-24T20:21:13Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> [http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/index.html](http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/index.html)

2009: "We’re going to treat them [Fox News] the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1551 "2017-02-24T20:25:25Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> 2009: "We’re going to treat them [Fox News] the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

When was Fox News ever denied access?

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1552 "2017-02-24T20:28:58Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> 2009: "We’re going to treat them [Fox News] the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

What actions followed? From which press conferences was Fox News barred?

This being the Pit: Fox News has a poor reputation for veracity. They were against Obama before he was President. The major media were a bit too kind to The Donald, early on.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1553 "2017-02-24T20:29:11Z")

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> [@SingleMalt](#):
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> When was Fox News ever denied access?

When were they ever a legit news organization?

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1554 "2017-02-24T20:31:52Z")

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Up next: This So-Called president and republicans tell all of America to **sit down and shut up.**

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1555 "2017-02-24T20:44:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> In a brief statement defending the move, administration spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said the White House “had the pool there so everyone would be represented and get an update from us today.”  
> The pool usually includes a representative from one television network and one print outlet. In this case, four of the five major television networks – NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox News – were invited and attended the meeting, while only CNN was blocked.

NBC, ABC and CBS needs to shake this issue like a dog with a bone and never let up. The pressure from these networks need to be relentless.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1556 "2017-02-24T20:46:43Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> NBC, ABC and CBS needs to shake this issue like a dog with a bone and never let up. The pressure from these networks need to be relentless.

If they want to bother Trump, just stop all coverage of him.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1557 "2017-02-24T20:52:53Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> If they want to bother Trump, just stop all coverage of him.

That was my first thought, but then America’s info will largely only come from the REAL fake news sites.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1558 "2017-02-24T21:29:03Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> If they want to bother Trump, just stop all coverage of him.

The only coverage, day after day, from all of the media should be:

“Today in Washington, Donald Trump again said a bunch of stupid things, and his Republican colleagues in the House let him get away with it. And now for the weather.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1559 "2017-02-24T21:47:21Z")

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[70 year old, white, Australian children’s book author Mem Fox was held and interrogated in US customs for two hours because of an alleged invalid visa, which turned out not to be the case.](http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/accused-of-having-an-incorrect-visa-mem-fox-detained-by-immigration-officials-at-la-airport/news-story/aa712d3867d1509c52c3608798e19db5)

She says she will never travel to the United States again.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1560 "2017-02-24T21:50:34Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> 2009: "We’re going to treat them [Fox News] the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

And yet Fox News was never banned.

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