# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 780
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15585 "2018-01-17T15:56:51Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Trump is not 6’3" or 6’4" tall, and he weighs more than 239 pounds. I have seen Obama’s height stated as 6’0" and 6’1" in various places. [Here](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/170901084930-trump-obama-780x439.jpg) is a picture of them together. Trump does not appear to be taller than Obama. Trump is a bit taller than me, and I’m a hair over six feet, but he ain’‘t 6’3". there are already a thousand photos out there comparing his height with men whose height shows he can’'t be that tall. As to his weight, I used to weigh well over 280 and now I’m maybe 220. I remember well what I looked like when I weighed 235-240. Donald Trump does not weigh 239 pounds. He weighs at least 280. He looks as least as fat as I was and a LOT fatter than I do now. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15586 "2018-01-17T16:09:57Z")
Remember “God bless the United Shdaash”? And how we were all certain that Trump’s dentures had slipped? Apparently we were wrong, as the doctor explicitly stated that Trump’s teeth are all his own. Oh well…can’t get 'em all. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15587 "2018-01-17T16:10:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > How can an **ethical doctor** sign his name to that? Weight is an important part of the overall health picture. A doctor just using a random number for that value is not ethical. Regardless of the patient. There would be very different health advice to a patient at 239 pounds vs 300 pounds. Bolding mine. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! “Ethical” “Trump Administration” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15588 "2018-01-17T16:11:45Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Remember “God bless the United Shdaash”? And how we were all certain that Trump’s dentures had slipped? Except for those who thought he was having a stroke. > [@](#): > > Apparently we were wrong, as the doctor explicitly stated that Trump’s teeth are all his own. He actually paid that bill? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15589 "2018-01-17T16:11:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Remember “God bless the United Shdaash”? And how we were all certain that Trump’s dentures had slipped? > > Apparently we were wrong, as the doctor explicitly stated that **Trump’s teeth are all his own.** Oh well…can’t get 'em all. Those dentures weren’t borrowed. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15590 "2018-01-17T16:48:30Z")
To be fair, he does weigh less than you’d think to look at him when you factor in his tiny hands, thin skin, and empty head. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15591 "2018-01-17T17:02:10Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Bolding mine. > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! “Ethical” “Trump Administration” > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The doctor is not part of the administration though. I have no problem understanding that the administration is a den of snakes, but the doctor’s actions seem out of character. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15592 "2018-01-17T17:10:12Z")
Meh, he needs the President’s say so to get promoted. I wouldn’t put it past him. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15593 "2018-01-17T17:13:33Z")
It’s hardly a secret that the way to manipulate Trump is through public flattery, the more obsequious the better. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15594 "2018-01-17T17:27:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The old joke about being too short for your weight … isn’t a joke? Yet, at the same time he is too tall for his hair… ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15595 "2018-01-17T17:30:48Z")
OK, this is just sad. It wasn’t too long ago that the opinion of (a) a non-partisan medical professional who is also (b) a member of the military and © appointed by Obama wouldn’t be subject to suspicion. Our trust in institutions has eroded so far it’s including institutions that it wouldn’t even have occurred to us to doubt, just a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15596 "2018-01-17T17:35:35Z")
Well, I wouldn’t have foreseen Patraeus throwing his career away over a piece of ass. Not to mention 3-star General Flynn. There are numerous other cases of high ranking officers lately doing what I would consider Un-Flag Rank activities. This one seems to pale in comparison “He told me his height and weight and I wrote it down. Why would the POTUS lie?” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15597 "2018-01-17T17:38:49Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > OK, this is just sad. > > It wasn’t too long ago that the opinion of (a) a non-partisan medical professional who is also (b) a member of the military and (c) appointed by Obama wouldn’t be subject to suspicion. > > Our trust in institutions has eroded so far it’s including institutions that it wouldn’t even have occurred to us to doubt, just a few years ago. This is the square I’m trying to circle. I don’t doubt the honesty of this doctor. But, I absolutely doubt these numbers, which appear ridiculous. In the general scheme of things, this is a very minor issue. But, it would have been useful for the White House not to have blown all of its credibility. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15598 "2018-01-17T17:41:08Z")
My very serious question about his physical is: _ **Did Donald Trump pull ‘Commander in Chief’ privilege and order him to lie?** _ Because I’m 5’11" and 235-240 pound range, and Trump, while being 4" taller than me, also appears to be heavier/thicker/fatter than me. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15599 "2018-01-17T17:43:16Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Republicans threaten to shut down the government because Republicans won’t meet their demands: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/AP/status/953467807722889216) > > “BREAKING: House conservatives say there are enough Republican opponents to reject GOP leaders’ plan to prevent government shutdown.” We’ve obtained footage. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/upvZdVK913I/hqdefault.jpg "the new sheriff scene from blazing saddles") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I&t=2m44s) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15600 "2018-01-17T18:06:17Z")
Nobody move or the sheriff gets it! > [@Slash1972](#): > > Well, I wouldn’t have foreseen Patraeus throwing his career away over a piece of ass. He’s male, isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15601 "2018-01-17T18:08:47Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s male, isn’t he? I’m male, and I wouldn’t do that. Nor would I suspect someone who made it to 4-Star General to be an idiot led by his dick. It was a surprise to me, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15602 "2018-01-17T18:20:29Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m male, and I wouldn’t do that. Nor would I suspect someone who made it to 4-Star General to be an idiot led by his dick. > > It was a surprise to me, that’s all. Robin Williams once said, “God gave man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to run one at a time.” Although, granted, you’d think someone smart enough and old enough to achieve that rank would have learned how to override that sort of thing. Maybe he thought his rank would protect him, or that he was too smart to be caught, or that he was a big enough fish it wouldn’t matter if he were caught or not. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15603 "2018-01-17T18:55:13Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Am I the only one who is utterly nonplussed by the news of Trump’s perfect score on the cognitive test? I keep saying my capacity to be shocked by anything Trump-related is surely saturated, yet keep finding new and different ways to be proven wrong. And this one is really, \*really \*different. How to explain his verbal incoherence, especially in contrast to interviews from the '80s and '90s (when he was already a douchebag but an articulate one)? If his cognitive abilities are still acceptable, then that means all the chaos he’s caused, all the shit he’s stirred, all the aggravation he’s fostered, all the damage he’s done, Was all out of spite and done deliberately. That makes it WORSE. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15604 "2018-01-17T19:03:09Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > We’ve obtained footage. > [https://youtu.be/upvZdVK913I?t=2m44s](https://youtu.be/upvZdVK913I?t=2m44s) Well played! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=779) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=781)