# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 781
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15605 "2018-01-17T19:04:56Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m male, and I wouldn’t do that. Nor would I suspect someone who made it to 4-Star General to be an idiot led by his dick. > > It was a surprise to me, that’s all. He should have been sent to Leavenworth federal prison, just like any lower ranked officer, noncom or enlisted man would have been. To let him off so easy for what he did was a serious miscarriage of justice. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15606 "2018-01-17T19:06:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > He should have been sent to Leavenworth federal prison, just like any lower ranked officer, noncom or enlisted man would have been. To let him off so easy for what he did was a serious miscarriage of justice. I agree. As I posted elsewhere, I tend to hold people with more authority to a higher standard. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15607 "2018-01-17T19:14:30Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > This is the square I’m trying to circle. I don’t doubt the honesty of this doctor. But, I absolutely doubt these numbers, which appear ridiculous. In the general scheme of things, this is a very minor issue. But, it would have been useful for the White House not to have blown all of its credibility. It is possible that this doctor only watches Fox news and is thus unaware that Trump may be less than perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15608 "2018-01-17T19:16:06Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > If his cognitive abilities are still acceptable, then that means all the chaos he’s caused, all the shit he’s stirred, all the aggravation he’s fostered, all the damage he’s done, > > Was all out of spite and done deliberately. > > That makes it WORSE. But, does it help with the claim that he is fit to stand trial? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15609 "2018-01-17T19:21:26Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Robin Williams once said, “God gave man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to run one at a time.” Chris Rock once said “A man is only as faithful as his opportunities.” ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15610 "2018-01-17T19:34:10Z")
C’mon, guys. There’s really no good reason not to trust the doc. So Trump _looks_ a little flabby. The number of people who have accurately guessed my weight is pretty darn small (although to be fair, they’re always on the _low_ end of things). Should we really consider our “eyeballing it” good evidence that a doctor we have no other reason to doubt is lying on Trump’s behalf? This is silly. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15611 "2018-01-17T19:35:01Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Chris Rock once said “A man is only as faithful as his opportunities.” I’m fairly certain it is “his options” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15612 "2018-01-17T19:44:24Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > C’mon, guys. There’s really no good reason not to trust the doc. So Trump _looks_ a little flabby. The number of people who have accurately guessed my weight is pretty darn small (although to be fair, they’re always on the _low_ end of things). Should we really consider our “eyeballing it” good evidence that a doctor we have no other reason to doubt is lying on Trump’s behalf? This is silly. Actually this weight casts the entire physical in doubt. I bet they didn’t weigh him at all. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15613 "2018-01-17T20:00:48Z")
VSG: Very Svelte Genius ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15614 "2018-01-17T20:06:08Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Actually this weight casts the entire physical in doubt. I bet they didn’t weigh him at all. The feed store scales were broken. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15615 "2018-01-17T20:11:13Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > C’mon, guys. There’s really no good reason not to trust the doc. So Trump _looks_ a little flabby. The number of people who have accurately guessed my weight is pretty darn small (although to be fair, they’re always on the _low_ end of things). Should we really consider our “eyeballing it” good evidence that a doctor we have no other reason to doubt is lying on Trump’s behalf? This is silly. why in the world would anyone think we could trust this doctor after he said - with a straight face - that that rump is 6 foot 3? _and we can see he is not_. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15616 "2018-01-17T20:41:13Z")
Did he actually _say_ that, or was it written in the report? You know the report where he misspelt his own name? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15617 "2018-01-17T20:48:41Z")
Mitch McConnell says he’ll put together an immigration bill once he figures out what Trump wants. > **[Mitch McConnell: Senate needs to figure out where Trump stands on immigration...](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/senate-will-take-up-immigration-daca-bill-that-trump-supports-mitch-mcconnell-says.html)** > > "I'm looking for something that President Trump supports. And he's not yet indicated what measure he's willing to sign," Mitch McConnell said. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15618 "2018-01-17T20:50:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mitch McConnell says he’ll put together an immigration bill once he figures out what Trump wants. > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/senate-will-take-up-immigration-daca-bill-that-trump-supports-mitch-mcconnell-says.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/senate-will-take-up-immigration-daca-bill-that-trump-supports-mitch-mcconnell-says.html) Why doesn’t Mitch just take the easy route and ask Stephen Miller? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15619 "2018-01-17T20:51:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mitch McConnell says he’ll put together an immigration bill once he figures out what Trump wants. > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/senate-will-take-up-immigration-daca-bill-that-trump-supports-mitch-mcconnell-says.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/senate-will-take-up-immigration-daca-bill-that-trump-supports-mitch-mcconnell-says.html) Doesn’t that require Trump to figure out what he wants? And is McConnell capable of writing a whole bill in the few minutes before Cheeto changes his mind? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15620 "2018-01-17T20:57:46Z")
That sort of seems to be a slam against the President, basically “We are not wasting time on something when the President doesn’t even know what he wants”. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15621 "2018-01-17T21:21:36Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > If his cognitive abilities are still acceptable, then that means all the chaos he’s caused, all the shit he’s stirred, all the aggravation he’s fostered, all the damage he’s done, > > Was all out of spite and done deliberately. > > That makes it WORSE. Agreed. Although I think he could be slipping mentally (at least compared to what he was a couple of decades ago) and still be delberately spiteful in what he’s doing to the country now – perhaps, in fact, with diminished inhibitions. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15622 "2018-01-17T21:29:38Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Did he actually _say_ that, or was it written in the report? You know the report where he misspelt his own name? I want to see the wide-form girth certificate. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15623 "2018-01-17T21:29:40Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > C’mon, guys. There’s really no good reason not to trust the doc. So Trump _looks_ a little flabby. The number of people who have accurately guessed my weight is pretty darn small (although to be fair, they’re always on the _low_ end of things). Should we really consider our “eyeballing it” good evidence that a doctor we have no other reason to doubt is lying on Trump’s behalf? This is silly. What does [eyeballing this](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/6e/cb/626ecbcd0161ee7b104fbbed362dc66b.png) tell you? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15624 "2018-01-17T21:33:43Z")
I’d also like to see Cheetolini’s blood pressure reading when he finds out about [this](http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/fire-and-fury-michael-wolff-tv-series-1202667271/): > [@](#): > > Michael Wolff’s _“Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House”_ is being eyed for an adaptation into a television series, _Variety_ has confirmed. > > Endeavor Content has purchased the film and television rights to the book, which goes inside the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency. It largely portrays Trump as unprepared for the enormity of his office, and that he is unable to focus his attention on policy details… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=780) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=782)