# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 783
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15645 "2018-01-18T03:22:27Z")
Trump’s assaults on the media represent behavior by a president that I never thought I would live to see. Even if Trump quits, or is impeached, or whatever, this is unprecedented territory in American history. We’re witnessing an American president expressing outright contempt for the Bill of Rights, and I would wager that most of his supporters are cheering him on. America is in deep shit tonight. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15646 "2018-01-18T03:25:55Z")
Didn’t Nixon do something similar? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15647 "2018-01-18T03:35:30Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Let’s face it: both sides just want what they want, and selectively use the Constitution to justify their positions. I find that a lazy position, “they’re all alike”. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15648 "2018-01-18T03:42:25Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “Studies have shown” > Well, that sounds convincing. God, these guys are fucking morons. Of course, his takeaway from “90% of news coverage of Trump has been negative” is “so there’s a problem with the news !” rather than "Gee, even Dubya didn’t catch _that much_ shit, maybe I’m doing something wrong ? " ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15649 "2018-01-18T03:47:49Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Didn’t Nixon do something similar? Nixon created an “enemies list” that contained lots of unfriendly media—but unlike Trump he realized this was shameful and tried to keep it secret. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15650 "2018-01-18T03:53:05Z")
Cory Lewandowski pulled a Bannon and refused to testify before the House Committee, but he didn’t get a subpoena, though Adam Schiff wants one. > **[Top House Intel Committee Dem says Corey Lewandowski should be subpoenaed](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-house-intel-committee-dem-says-corey-lewandowski-should-be-subpoenaed)** > > The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee called for former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to be subpoenaed Wednesday over his refusal to answer certain questions as part of into alleged Russian collusion with Trump campaign... ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15651 "2018-01-18T03:55:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Thump gave his top Fake News award to my personal hero Paul Krugman, possibly the smartest man in the world (got a Nobel Prize, dontcha know). That is QUITE an honor. Interesting. In all the past year (two years, if you count the campaign), Krugman has been blasting Trump non-stop, yet I don’t recall ever seeing or hearing or reading a word from Trump about him. I don’t recall reading about any tweet that mentions him. I’ve wondered all this time: Where is Krugman on Trump’s shit-list? Have I been living under a rock? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15652 "2018-01-18T03:57:50Z")
Don Jr. retweeted an article that seriously trashes his father, obviously only having read the headline. [http://addictinginfo.com/2018/01/17/don-jr-shares-article-while-somehow-totally-unaware-that-it-savages-his-father/](http://addictinginfo.com/2018/01/17/don-jr-shares-article-while-somehow-totally-unaware-that-it-savages-his-father/) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15653 "2018-01-18T04:07:25Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Interesting. In all the past year (two years, if you count the campaign), Krugman has been blasting Trump non-stop, yet I don’t recall ever seeing or hearing or reading a word from Trump about him. I don’t recall reading about any tweet that mentions him. I’ve wondered all this time: Where is Krugman on Trump’s shit-list? > > Have I been living under a rock? Like i said, Krugman’s columns are way over thump’s head. The fact that thump has never read him is THE primary qualification for getting the award. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15654 "2018-01-18T04:21:30Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Don Jr. retweeted an article that seriously trashes his father, obviously only having read the headline. > [ZodiakSlot | Situs Game Slot Online Terbaik di Indonesia](http://addictinginfo.com/2018/01/17/don-jr-shares-article-while-somehow-totally-unaware-that-it-savages-his-father/) I don’t know that any of the Trumps are capable of reading. They have people for that. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15655 "2018-01-18T04:30:41Z")
wow… just wow… > [@http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/17/politics/donald-trump-medical-exam-interview/index.html](#): > > Discussing the issue of North Korea’s nuclear ambitions in an interview Wednesday with Reuters, Trump took a swing at his predecessors, former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, for their approaches to the rogue nation. > **“I guess they all realized they’re going to have to leave it to a president that scored the highest on tests. What can I tell you?”** Trump said. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15656 "2018-01-18T04:45:14Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I find that a lazy position, “they’re all alike”. Not at all what I said. I prefer Democratic positions to Republican ones almost every time, which is why I am a Democrat. But I don’t pretend it’s because a bunch of slaveholding white guys in the powdered wigs wrote down all of our modern principles on a parchment 200-odd years ago. The fact is, the “spirit of 76” is much closer to the small government, deregulation ethos than it is to the progressive, activist government I prefer. So it’s freeing not to have to pretend fealty to the ideology of those rich old white guys from the 1700s. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15657 "2018-01-18T05:05:16Z")
[An interesting photo in relation to the Trump Height Controversy (THC).](https://twitter.com/MBerns247/status/953668093628346368) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15658 "2018-01-18T05:33:02Z")
The Frisch School, the Jewish high school that Jared attended, and where Trump’s Middle East advisor sends his kid(s), has told its students to send letters of support to Trump, without input from the parents of the school’s students. [Jared Kushner's High School Is Making Children Write Letters of Support to Donald Trump](http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushners-high-school-making-children-write-letters-support-donald-trump-783538)? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15659 "2018-01-18T06:02:45Z")
[World’s Approval of U.S. Leadership Drops to New Low](http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON, D.C. – One year into Donald Trump’s presidency, the image of U.S. leadership is weaker worldwide than it was under his two predecessors. Median approval of U.S. leadership across 134 countries and areas stands at a new low of 30%, according to a new Gallup report. > The most recent approval rating, based on Gallup World Poll surveys conducted between March and November last year, is down 18 percentage points from the 48% approval rating in the last year of President Barack Obama’s administration, and is four points lower than the previous low of 34% in the last year of President George W. Bush’s administration. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15660 "2018-01-18T06:34:23Z")
And he’s not even quite finished his first year, yet. He’s done something neither Obama nor Bush managed until their 8th year. Way above average. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15661 "2018-01-18T06:36:46Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Shit, at least ETF could’ve put a “NSFW” or “Not Safe for Human Consumption” warning on that post! :eek: :smack: You’re right; I’m so ashamed of myself. Please forgive me! :o And please allow me to redeem myself with this [adorable kitten](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguinpookie/images/b/ba/Cute-kittens-20-great-pictures-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141104145417). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15662 "2018-01-18T06:56:17Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [World’s Approval of U.S. Leadership Drops to New Low](http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx) They’re just threatened by the greatness of America soaring back again ! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15663 "2018-01-18T07:17:38Z")
With Friday’s possible shutdown looming, one of my biggest heroes for some time now - Lisa Dejardins - was saying on PBS tonight that without McCain around, the required 60 senate votes will be reliant on ten Dem votes. She feels it’s not clear, tonight anyway, if that’ll happen - she thinks it’ll come down to the wire. No. 2 in senate John Cornyn told her there’ll be no vote on DACA ths week, and so Dems have to decide if they’ll swallow this CR, or do they try to shut down gov’t to force a vote, and she figures enough moderates could possibly vote for the CR. She added that this, in turn, would push the solution to the Feb. 16 spending deadline, making that an important date for the dreamers and DACA, and, because that’s closer to the March DACA deadline, Dems will feel they have more momentum that DACA could be reality. Bannon has agreed to appear before Mueller, just as the House Intelligence Committee was on the verge of subpeoning Bannon to do so. Meuller subpeoned instead, according to AP (through the Guardian [Steve Bannon to meet with Mueller’s investigators instead of testifying | Steve Bannon | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/17/steve-bannon-to-meet-with-muellers-investigators-instead-of-testifying)) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15664 "2018-01-18T07:25:15Z")
Wow, misspelling a hero - DeSjardins. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=782) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=784)