# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 793
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15845 "2018-01-23T02:50:19Z")
Vanity Fair reports John Kelly, the guy who was supposed to manage the chaos, is on the way out: > **[“Another Nut Job”: Trump Fumes That Kelly “Thinks He’s Running Things”](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/are-trump-and-kelly-heading-for-divorce)** > > With the president and his chief of staff arguing in public, Ivanka Trump takes charge of finding a replacement. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15846 "2018-01-23T02:56:14Z")
Hang on to your butts, the ride is going to get rougher. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15847 "2018-01-23T03:11:27Z")
And the laughs louder. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15848 "2018-01-23T03:18:29Z")
Newsweek says Ivanka is searching for replacement: [https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-john-kelly-ivanka-787381%3Famp=1](https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-john-kelly-ivanka-787381%3famp=1) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15849 "2018-01-23T03:57:53Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Newsweek says Ivanka is searching for replacement: > > [Donald Trump Called John Kelly a 'Nut Job' and Ivanka is Now Searching For His Replacement, Report Claims - Newsweek](https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-john-kelly-ivanka-787381%3famp=1) :smack: Christ on a cracker. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15850 "2018-01-23T04:14:17Z")
So who will it be? Sheriff Joe? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15851 "2018-01-23T04:15:54Z")
Detroit man arrested by FBI for threatening mass shootings at CNN. [http://www.cbs46.com/story/37323169/feds-man-threatened-to-kill-cnn-employees](http://www.cbs46.com/story/37323169/feds-man-threatened-to-kill-cnn-employees) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15852 "2018-01-23T04:18:42Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > So who will it be? Sheriff Joe? Dunno… Trump might need Sheriff Joe to head up the FBI, if [Christopher Wray quits](https://www.axios.com/scoop-1516661397-877adb3e-5f8d-44a1-8a2f-d4f0894ca6a7.html). (Axios) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15853 "2018-01-23T04:36:43Z")
So Kelly was reported to be one of the guys that advised Trump to drop the funding/immigration deal they had made earlier with the Democrats because “it needed to be tougher” for the naivist crowd. Seems that he may be dumped not for for being an inhuman piece of crap and causing Trump to miss a chance to be “presidential”; no, being a bigot is not a sin in Trump world. Appearing to be (or actually) be ruling over “his majesty” is the biggest sin. So, a “resignation” may be in the cards. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15854 "2018-01-23T04:37:17Z")
First lady Melania Trump, in a change of plans, will [not be joining President Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/melania-trump-davos/index.html) on his trip to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, later this week. Will Stormy Daniels be available to accompany the President? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15855 "2018-01-23T04:46:36Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > “it needed to be tougher” for the naivist crowd. Naïvist, naïvest, or Nativist? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15856 "2018-01-23T05:01:49Z")
Trump going to Switzerland. After his visit, I suspect they will no longer be a neutral country. ---- Trump makes enemies of everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15857 "2018-01-23T05:06:16Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > [Watchdog Group Claims Reported Hush Money To Porn Star Violates Election Law - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/common-cause-hush-money-violates-election-law) > > AIUI, without having read the full complaint on my teeny tiny screen, Common Cause argues that the LLC set up by Trump’s lawyer to pay Stormy Daniels made what amounts to an in-kind donation to the campaign. They also argue that the expenditure should have been reported by the campaign since the funds were paid to influence the election. > > Does Common Cause have a case here? Does the payment run afoul of campaign finance law? It seems to me that the answers to both those questions are likely “yes”, but what the hell do I know? > > And, yes, of course it doesn’t matter. Trump could, as he famously claimed, shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, and Ryan and McConnell would express their concern and call the President’s actions “unhelpful”, and then go about their day. This seems to be gaining steam. Our shithole president may end up begging for the spotlight to return to the Russian investigation. 😃 > [@AnalogSignal](#): > > First lady Melania Trump, in a change of plans, will [not be joining President Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/melania-trump-davos/index.html) on his trip to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, later this week. Hmm, a related story maybe? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15858 "2018-01-23T05:08:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Naïvist, naïvest, or Nativist? 😛 All of them 🙂 But yeah, it was supposed to be nativist. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15859 "2018-01-23T05:45:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Yes, he’s a symptom of a larger problem, but… > > I would welcome a return to “normal” right wing politics. I disagree with everything they want to do, but I’ve been in that situation several times over the past few decades. What is different this time is the rank incompetence and embarrassment of our current President. He’s utterly despicable, and I’m frankly flabbergasted that the conservatives are willing to tolerate such a man just to advance their political goals. Their goals tend to be completely morally bankrupt and self-serving, why would it surprise anyone that they’d tolerate Trump to advance them? They’ve been _waiting_ for a useful idiot like Trump for decades. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15860 "2018-01-23T05:50:57Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > First lady Melania Trump, in a change of plans, will [not be joining President Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/melania-trump-davos/index.html) on his trip to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, later this week. :mad: So the world won’t get to see her smacking his handette away. > [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Will Stormy Daniels be available to accompany the President? Oh, stormy, oh, stormy, bring back that sunny day Yesterday´s love was like a warm summer breeze but like the weather it changed New things are dreary baby and it´s windy and cold and I stand alone in the rain callin´ your name [Classics IV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Sua_QTDs0) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15861 "2018-01-23T07:17:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Detroit man arrested by FBI for threatening mass shootings at CNN. > [http://www.cbs46.com/story/37323169/feds-man-threatened-to-kill-cnn-employees](http://www.cbs46.com/story/37323169/feds-man-threatened-to-kill-cnn-employees) Are we sure that Trump didn’t make those phone calls? The wording used (“I’m smarter than you. More powerful than you. I have more guns than you”) certainly sounds like Trump’s syntax. If the suspect’s name is John Barron, I want a dollar from everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15862 "2018-01-23T11:00:31Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Are we sure that Trump didn’t make those phone calls? Nah, too much work. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15863 "2018-01-23T12:44:24Z")
Maybe he’s delegated that job to Jared Kushner. I mean, that boy has nothing to do. Except Ivanka. Which is the job that I want. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15864 "2018-01-23T13:15:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Yes, he’s a symptom of a larger problem, but… > > I would welcome a return to “normal” right wing politics. I disagree with everything they want to do, but I’ve been in that situation several times over the past few decades. What is different this time is the rank incompetence and embarrassment of our current President. He’s utterly despicable, and _ **I’m frankly flabbergasted that the conservatives are willing to tolerate such a man just to advance their political goals.** _ [emphasis added – sgs7] Absolutely. One is almost tempted to conclude that many Republicans are not entirely motivated by high moral principles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=792) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=794)