# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15925 "2018-01-25T22:53:23Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Oh, yes. We’re [MAGA, all right. But France is heralding MAPA](http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/12/french-president-s-climate-talent-search-nabs-18-foreign-scientists). (Science Magazine)
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> Smart guy, that Macron.

Wouldnt it be “MOPGA” Or Make Earth Great Again - MEGA

🙂

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15926 "2018-01-25T22:57:39Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Wouldnt it be “MOPGA” Or Make Earth Great Again - MEGA
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> 🙂

ROFL, of course you are right!! Not sure where my brain went there for a minute… Thank you for the kind correction! 🙂

ETA: I quite like MEGA. 😃

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15927 "2018-01-25T23:31:15Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Wouldnt it be “MOPGA” Or Make Earth Great Again - MEGA
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> 🙂

> [@Futurama](#):
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> _Nixon’s head_: “My fellow Earthicans, we enjoy so much freedom it’s almost sickening”.

🙂

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15928 "2018-01-26T00:23:44Z")

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um, \<shuffling feet\>, I [gotta go](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370740-guggenheim-offers-to-loan-trump-white-house-a-golden-toilet) …

_(Shitgibbon, et al) had asked to borrow a Van Gogh painting … but the Guggenheim responded that it could not accommodate the request … “We are sorry not to be able to accommodate your original request, but remain hopeful that this special offer may be of interest," curator Nancy Spector wrote in an email to the White House, according to the Post. The 18-karat, fully functioning toilet was used as a temporary interactive exhibit in one of the museum’s bathrooms._

naww, I will just find a tree out behind the garage

_“It’s a very delicate subject," Cattelan, the artist, told the Post when asked why he offered the toilet … “What’s the point of our life?” he told the Post by phone. “Everything seems absurd until we die and then it makes sense.”_

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15929 "2018-01-26T00:43:33Z")

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How would he know? Did he deliver this message via Ouija board?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15930 "2018-01-26T00:50:53Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> um, \<shuffling feet\>, I [gotta go](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370740-guggenheim-offers-to-loan-trump-white-house-a-golden-toilet) …
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> _(Shitgibbon, et al) had asked to borrow a Van Gogh painting … but the Guggenheim responded that it could not accommodate the request … “We are sorry not to be able to accommodate your original request, but remain hopeful that this special offer may be of interest," curator Nancy Spector wrote in an email to the White House, according to the Post. The 18-karat, fully functioning toilet was used as a temporary interactive exhibit in one of the museum’s bathrooms._
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> naww, I will just find a tree out behind the garage
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> _“It’s a very delicate subject," Cattelan, the artist, told the Post when asked why he offered the toilet … “What’s the point of our life?” he told the Post by phone. “Everything seems absurd until we die and then it makes sense.”_

Perhaps he would’ve taken them up on the offer had it been a golden shower instead.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15931 "2018-01-26T01:01:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> {…} The 18-karat, fully functioning toilet was used as a temporary interactive exhibit in one of the museum’s bathrooms. The piece, titled “America,” has been described as satire mocking excessive wealth. {…}

President Donald J. Trump trolled by the Guggenheim!!!

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15932 "2018-01-26T01:01:50Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> How would he know? Did he deliver this message via Ouija board?

He is not speaking of the “ultimate reality” idea, just that dying is the one non-absurd enterprise that we undertake.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Woo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Dr.Woo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Woo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15933 "2018-01-26T01:06:39Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> She married for money. She always knew what it meant.

I can’t help but think of the old Eagles song:

City girls just seem to find out early  
How to open doors with just a smile  
A rich old man  
And she won’t have to worry  
She’ll dress up all in lace and go in style  
Late at night a big old house gets lonely  
I guess every form of refuge has its price  
And it breaks her heart to think her love is only  
Given to a man with hands as cold as ice

A man with very very SMALL hands as cold as ice.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15934 "2018-01-26T01:23:48Z")

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Hahahahaha Trump [tried to do a Saturday night massacre](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html?smid=tw-share&mtrref=undefined) in June but he was too weak to follow through when people pushed back.

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> President Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

So tough.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15935 "2018-01-26T01:41:49Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Kudos to her for acknowledging Holocaust Remembrance. Her husband will probably declare National Be Nice to Germany Day, or Support Your Local Gas Oven Distributor Week.

“If Hitler were alive, I’d like to think he would love me.”

> **[Justin Bieber hopes Anne Frank 'would have been a belieber'](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/apr/14/justin-bieber-anne-frank-belieber?CMP=share_btn_link)**
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> Pop star's comments after a visit to the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam is not his first controversy on this European tour

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15936 "2018-01-26T02:25:32Z")

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I thought the massacre was more than 2 people resigning. But I just looked it up - very small massacre, indeed.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15937 "2018-01-26T03:00:52Z")

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[Donald Trump tells Theresa May he won’t visit the UK unless she bans protests](http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-tells-theresa-may-he-wont-visit-uk-unless-she-bans-protests-1656638)

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> Donald Trump is refusing to visit the UK unless Theresa May can ensure that he is not met with protests. Bloomberg revealed that Trump complained in a phone call to May about the “negative coverage” he has received in the British press.
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> May told the US president that that was how the UK media operated and she could do little to change it. Trump went on to say that he would not visit the UK unless there were guarantees that he would not be met with protests. Advisers who had been listening to the phone call are reported to have been “astonished” at the demands.  
> …

Maybe she could just shut down all the newspapers, TV and radio stations while he’s there. And the internet. And confiscate everyone’s cell phones. And ban public assemblies. In fact, she can just tell everyone they have to stay inside their houses, close the curtains, and be perfectly still the whole time thump is in the country. Like the blackouts during the Blitz.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15938 "2018-01-26T03:11:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [Donald Trump tells Theresa May he won’t visit the UK unless she bans protests](http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-tells-theresa-may-he-wont-visit-uk-unless-she-bans-protests-1656638)  
> Maybe she could just shut down all the newspapers, TV and radio stations while he’s there. And the internet. And confiscate everyone’s cell phones. And ban public assemblies. \*\*In fact, she can just tell everyone they have to stay inside their houses, close the curtains, and be perfectly still \*\*the whole time thump is in the country. Like the blackouts during the Blitz.

Is Melania going to ride naked on a horse?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15939 "2018-01-26T03:27:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “It’s a very delicate subject," Cattelan, the artist, told the Post when asked why he offered the toilet … “What’s the point of our life?” he told the Post by phone. “Everything seems absurd until we die and then it makes sense.”

Life sucks, then you die.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15940 "2018-01-26T05:02:50Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Hahahahaha Trump [tried to do a Saturday night massacre](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html?smid=tw-share&mtrref=undefined) in June but he was too weak to follow through when people pushed back.

This would have been YUGE. At that time, even the Republicans probably would not have tolerated it and it could have lead to impeachment. Now the Republicans are in full obstruction mode and are doing everything to discredit the investigation – deleted texts and a “secret society” are being spun into conspiracy theories.

In any case, the Mueller-Trump interview is happening soonish so the investigation will wind down one way or another.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15941 "2018-01-26T08:03:09Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Kudos to her for acknowledging Holocaust Remembrance. Her husband will probably declare National Be Nice to Germany Day, or Support Your Local Gas Oven Distributor Week.

I seem to remember some talk about how "[even Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons," “not using the gas on his own people,” and “Holocaust centers”](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/apr/11/sean-spicer-hitler-chemical-weapons-syria-assad-video) 1000 years / 1 Trump year ago.

Ah, Spicey, we barely knew 'ye.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15942 "2018-01-26T12:56:17Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Interesting little snippet from this paywalled article about [making China great again,](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/08/making-china-great-again) a shining beacon of Trump’s science and research legacy:

Interesting quote from Schmidt re: Iran, and it certainly fits within the spectrum of my personal experience. Every last person I’ve ever met from Iran (at least in the US) has been extremely well educated. The Iranians I’ve met (admittedly not that many but enough to form an impression) are in contrast to many whom I’ve met from the Gulf States – lovely people (many of them) but not necessarily the most educated lot, and far more prone to fundamentalist (and thus, potentially dangerous) ideology. All the more ironic that we’re allowing literally hundreds of thousands of people from the Gulf States each year on things like student and other visas and yet disallowing Iranians. My apologies in advance for crass, over-broad generalizations.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15943 "2018-01-26T12:59:19Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> This would have been YUGE. At that time, even the Republicans probably would not have tolerated it and it could have lead to impeachment. Now the Republicans are in full obstruction mode and are doing everything to discredit the investigation – deleted texts and a “secret society” are being spun into conspiracy theories.
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> In any case, the Mueller-Trump interview is happening soonish so the investigation will wind down one way or another.

I suspect that Mueller’s going to implicate people in the GOP before long - either congressmen or the mega-donors who give them their marching orders. I find it hard to believe the GOP’s simply protecting the president.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/15944 "2018-01-26T13:06:20Z")

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They’re protecting their pocketbooks. As long as the GOP in congress need Trump’s lunkhead supporters to keep them employed and sucking at the government teat, they need the lunkhead Trump.

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