# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 82
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1621 "2017-02-27T04:10:10Z")
Eh, Donald has a thing for Communists. He married two and is selling us out to Putin. Melania is as fair game as much as any honey trap, like Mata Hari. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1622 "2017-02-27T04:10:41Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Christ on a cracker, people. Enough on Melania. I know this is the Pit, but intelligent discussion is permitted. And this is not it. Yeah, gotta go with this. IMO, Melania can do whatever the hell she wants, and fuck anyone she wants whenever she wants. Unfortunately, her earlier choices have left her pretty much fucked now…there is no way, no matter how ‘good’ or honourable a person she is that she will come out of this unscathed. Plus, she looks like one of the most miserable people on the planet. I have more pity than contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1623 "2017-02-27T04:11:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Christ on a cracker, people. Enough on Melania. I know this is the Pit, but intelligent discussion is permitted. And this is not it. Amazing just how misogynistic and sexist leftists can get when they think the strictures are off because the subject is a woman the left doesn’t like. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1624 "2017-02-27T04:20:29Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I dunno. Hear she’s pretty talented. Who knows whether she’s a favorite among the kitchen staff and such. 😉 Well she might be IF, ya know, she actually lived at the White House. But she doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1625 "2017-02-27T04:23:28Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Amazing just how misogynistic and sexist leftists can get when they think the strictures are off because the subject is a woman the left doesn’t like. Where the fuck did you get the idea that there are no misogynists or sexists on the left?? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1626 "2017-02-27T04:26:46Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Amazing just how misogynistic and sexist leftists can get when they think the strictures are off because the subject is a woman the left doesn’t like. Your post doesn’t make one molecule of sense. Read it over and see if you don’t agree. This is not an omnibus thread; it is a thread is about the Trump administration. That is indicated by the title. If you want to trash or praise Trump’s family, male and/or female, by all means, start a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1627 "2017-02-27T04:27:04Z")
Marrying for money and/or power is as old as humanity. That was her choice, knowing that he cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife. I really have nothing good or bad to say about her other than that I have to think that if it was a happy marriage, she would be in the White House. Since she chose not to move there and take the traditional role of First Wife, we have reason to suspect that there is unhappiness there. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1628 "2017-02-27T05:59:02Z")
[https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170227/4b380051bf3e8d8b5e163f292d82df00.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170227/4b380051bf3e8d8b5e163f292d82df00.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1629 "2017-02-27T06:03:23Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Amazing just how misogynistic and sexist leftists can get when they think the strictures are off because the subject is a woman the left doesn’t like. So… When the First Lady does a lesbian porn photo shoot, we’re just supposed to pretend that never happened? Just sort of never bring it up? OK then. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1630 "2017-02-27T06:07:16Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Amazing just how misogynistic and sexist leftists can get when they think the strictures are off because the subject is a woman the left doesn’t like. You missed all the shit thrown at Michelle Obama, didn’t you? Or is your snowflakiness kicking in? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1631 "2017-02-27T06:58:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So… When the First Lady does a lesbian porn photo shoot, we’re just supposed to pretend that never happened? Just sort of never bring it up? > > OK then. I think we can bring it up. But, for me, it’s not about Melania herself. I don’t care if she did a naked photo shoot. Hell, i don’t care if she wants to do one while she’s First Lady. And quite frankly, i also don’t really care one way or another about her decision to stay in New York, except as it affects the costs to the taxpayer in terms of security. The job of President is just that: the job of President. While the role of First Lady has taken on a life of its own, it’s not a requirement that the President’s spouse do unpaid work for the government. If she doesn’t want to shepherd dignitaries around the White House or play hostess at state dinners, that’s her prerogative, as far as i’m concerned. For me, the only real relevance that Melania’s past has is that it shows up the brazen and vile and disgusting hypocrisy of many on the American right. Can you imagine the reaction if Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton had a past like that of Melania Trump? Can you imagine, for that matter, the reaction if Barack Obama had been a twice-divorced serial philanderer with multiple bankruptcies and a much younger wife who had posed nude for a magazine shoot? Michelle Obama is an incredibly well-educated and intelligent and thoughtful person, and was a classy and dignified presence in the White House. Yet many of the people who seem to have no problem with Melania’s past spent plenty of time over the past eight years engaged in a barrage of hateful vitriol against Michelle Obama. That’s the lesson of Melania. I don’t care about her own behavior very much; i’m more concerned about what the responses to her behavior tell us about the value of “values” in the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1632 "2017-02-27T07:29:33Z")
[The first 100 lies of the trump administration.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-administration-lies-100_us_58ac7a0fe4b02a1e7dac3ca6?) A couple of them may seem like stretches, and a couple may seem a bit redundant, but still… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1633 "2017-02-27T08:53:38Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Michelle Obama is an incredibly well-educated and intelligent and thoughtful person, and was a classy and dignified presence in the White House. Yet many of the people who seem to have no problem with Melania’s past spent plenty of time over the past eight years engaged in a barrage of hateful vitriol against Michelle Obama. > > That’s the lesson of Melania. I don’t care about her own behavior very much; i’m more concerned about what the responses to her behavior tell us about the value of “values” in the Republican Party. Today’s Republican voters after Obama won election twice? They have one and only one value: prejudice. They’re in favor of it. They’re happy that Michelle Obama also is no longer in the White House. It doesn’t matter how classy she is, how classy her husband is…they are just a couple of Blacks as far as the bigots are concerned. They tolerate Trump’s nonsense because he’s automatically better, in their minds, than any Black, than any non-Christian foreigner (and, yes, those idiots still believe Obama was born overseas and is Muslim). Trump ran a campaign based on hatred, prejudice, and ignorance. And his target audience was spread just right to win the Electoral College. Yep. They’re quite in favor of their one value. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1634 "2017-02-27T14:16:49Z")
More polling goodness: [https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/](https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1635 "2017-02-27T15:13:22Z")
Why don’t we just call the Trumps’ relationship what it is? A trial separation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1636 "2017-02-27T15:23:52Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > More polling goodness: > [https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/](https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/) The final multiple choice question: “Pick as many as you like, as long as it’s only one.” ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1637 "2017-02-27T15:24:55Z")
Ok just a question…I don’t have a history of doing political polls but the last you I’ve seen via this board, including the one posted by raventhief, they ask for donations at the end. Is that normal??? It really comes off as greedy to me…especially given the smug Trump face smiling at me while it asks for my money. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1638 "2017-02-27T15:31:39Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Why don’t we just call the Trumps’ relationship what it is? A trial separation. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [Melania’s theme song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaVQ-7pdnZY) ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1639 "2017-02-27T17:18:40Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > More polling goodness: > [https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/](https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/) I had fun with that, especially #25. My answer was “resign.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/1640 "2017-02-27T18:17:54Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > More polling goodness: > [https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/](https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/) Hey, did they ever get around to releasing the results of the first one? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=81) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=83)