# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16925 "2018-02-19T20:55:33Z")

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At an international conference in Munich, administration officials tell foreign governments to ignore Trump’s tweets.

> **[U.S. Officials Tell World Leaders To Ignore Trump's Tweets](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/world-leaders-ignore-trump-tweets_n_5a8a604ee4b004fc31939e98?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003)**
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> Americans tried to calm rattled leaders at an international conference in Munich.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16926 "2018-02-19T21:18:21Z")

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[Priorities](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-the-weary-white-house-florida-shooting-offered-a-reprieve-from-scandals/2018/02/19/04293442-158a-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html):

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> Press staffers cited the tragedy as a reason to cancel on-camera briefings for the remainder of the week, allowing them to avoid questions about the swirling controversies. The White House could hold its next briefing on Tuesday, a full week since press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders last faced reporters.
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> "For everyone, it was a distraction or a reprieve,” said one White House official, speaking anonymously to reflect internal conversations. “A lot of people here felt like it was a reprieve from seven or eight days of just getting pummeled.”
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> The official likened the brief political calm to the aftermath of the October 2017 gun massacre in Las Vegas that left 58 dead and hundreds more injured. That tragedy united White House aides and the country in their shared mourning for the victims and their families.
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> “But as we all know, sadly, when the coverage dies down a little bit, we’ll be back through the chaos,” the official said…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16927 "2018-02-19T21:20:55Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> How is Trump making the country more mature and adult again?

CFSG **\<————** _ **Don’t Be Like Me!** _

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16928 "2018-02-19T23:06:41Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> [Ummm…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv1aczlrMsk)
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> :eek:
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> From [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=849408) thread in IMHO.

I don’t condone child abuse, but goddamn I wanted to throat-punch that kid

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16929 "2018-02-20T00:26:14Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I don’t condone child abuse, but goddamn I wanted to throat-punch that kid

They throw people off the flight for a hell of a lot less.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16930 "2018-02-20T01:45:38Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> You’re forgetting, that Trump is making the country more mature and adult (at least according to folks like Starving Artist). We just cannot see it because… actually that part was never quite explained.
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> How is Trump making the country more mature and adult again?

By facilitating the elimination of children, that increases the percentage of the population who are adults…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16931 "2018-02-20T02:03:18Z")

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Adults are mature? I guess I am not encountering many, then.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16932 "2018-02-20T03:22:10Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Adults are mature? I guess I am not encountering many, then.

That says a lot about you.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16933 "2018-02-20T04:46:24Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> You’re forgetting, that Trump is making the country more mature and adult (at least according to folks like Starving Artist). We just cannot see it because… actually that part was never quite explained.
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> How is Trump making the country more mature and adult again?

As for mature and adult, we are seeing more porn stars, playboy models and foul language out of this presidency.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16934 "2018-02-20T06:33:35Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I was kind of wondering about the FBI. Are persons who kit out and shoot the place up really under their mandate? Shitgibbon claimed that they dropped the ball on the Cruz thing – but was that really a thing meant for them to handle?
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> The FBI goes after mobsters, racketeers, multi-state crime and terrorists. So, if you think Cruz fits in there, I guess he would have to be classified as a terrorist. Which I suspect might not be an unreasonable thing to do. He did sow a bit of terror, after all. But it does become a tad problematic, as **we have seen him wearing a MAGAt hat and saying some alt-whitey stuff.**
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> So, if Shitgibbon thinks the FBI should have been on this guy, on the premise that he was pursuing terrorism, this would kind of put him in a difficult spot relative to his base.

Kind of surprised this is the first usage I’ve seen of “alt-white,” considering how well it describes the alt-right. I hope it catches on.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16935 "2018-02-20T06:37:21Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The part I cited is the essence of the way thump operates. He doesn’t want solutions to problems. He doesn’t want both/all sides to find common ground and work together. He feasts on conflict and chaos and if there isn’t any, he’ll create it. Resolution, compromise, even _peace_–those are all for losers.

Now I’m wondering about English idioms equivalent to the Spanish _a río revuelto, ganancia de pescadores_: “when the river runs white, the fishermen win”.

Could be Trump’s motto. The new coat of arms would include a whale because hey, biggest fish ever.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16936 "2018-02-20T17:26:50Z")

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> [@Scott Dworkin](#):
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> Mark this tweet: If Mueller gets Manafort to flip, Trump would likely resign within 2 weeks after a plea deal goes public. Manafort knows too much. About everything. Especially Trump, the campaign & Russia.

Trump: Make it look like an accident.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16937 "2018-02-20T17:38:14Z")

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Didn’t they get their Form 227/1/2c, the “thoughts and prayers” voucher?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16938 "2018-02-20T17:46:56Z")

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Ooops. Previous post is no longer operative. Therefore, it did not happen. Adjust your reality accordingly.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16939 "2018-02-20T18:24:52Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> Kind of surprised this is the first usage I’ve seen of “alt-white,” considering how well it describes the alt-right. I hope it catches on.

I have used here a few times, in Clusterfuck and SRIOTD. I may have picked it up from somewhere or coined it myself. Seems all but inevitable.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16940 "2018-02-20T20:15:57Z")

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Trump calls out one of the women who’s accusing him of assaulting her (and who is now running for Congress). She replied back by pointing out that what he claims she is saying is not what she is actually claiming.

> **[Trump Denies Woman's Allegation Of Unwanted Kissing In Trump Tower](https://www.npr.org/2018/02/20/587253019/trump-denies-womans-allegation-of-unwanted-kissing-in-trump-tower)**
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> In a pair of tweets, Trump denied the allegation from Rachel Crooks, which has been known for months, while also criticizing the Washington Post. But the president got key aspects of the story wrong.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16941 "2018-02-20T20:18:43Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump calls out one of the women who’s accusing him of assaulting her (and who is now running for Congress). She replied back by pointing out that what he claims she is saying is not what she is actually claiming.  
> [Trump Denies Woman's Allegation Of Unwanted Kissing In Trump Tower : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/02/20/587253019/trump-denies-womans-allegation-of-unwanted-kissing-in-trump-tower)

nitpick, she’s running for Ohio state legislature. Not Congress at this time.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16942 "2018-02-20T22:07:41Z")

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There’s a new dating site for Trump supporters called Trump dot dating, whose front page used to show a smiling white couple with their MAGA hats. As I said, it used to show them. Till it was discovered that the guy is a sex offender. And the couple owns a strip club.  
[Are we at all surprised that the face of Trump.dating has a child sex conviction?](https://www.avclub.com/are-we-at-all-surprised-that-the-face-of-trump-dating-h-1823167620)?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16943 "2018-02-20T22:17:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> There’s a new dating site for Trump supporters called Trump dot dating, whose front page used to show a smiling white couple with their MAGA hats. As I said, it used to show them. Till it was discovered that the guy is a sex offender. And the couple owns a strip club.  
> [Are we at all surprised that the face of Trump.dating has a child sex conviction?](https://www.avclub.com/are-we-at-all-surprised-that-the-face-of-trump-dating-h-1823167620)?

Misery loves company.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/16944 "2018-02-20T22:18:58Z")

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Like Hell I do! Bugger off!

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