# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 851
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17005 "2018-02-22T19:58:22Z")
Worse. He was in the Empire State Building. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17006 "2018-02-22T20:01:55Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Bravo. 🙂 > > If not armed teachers, then how about armed security guards? I mean, banks have armed security guards and bank robbery has completely disappeared, right? I haven’t seen an armed security guard in a bank in my life. Banks are foregoing armed guards for a very good reason; having armed guards makes it much _likelier_ someone will get hurt. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17007 "2018-02-22T20:17:15Z")
Yes, that creates a very good chance that the robber will simply grab the weapon from the fat, diabetic retiree sleeping in his chair by the door. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17008 "2018-02-22T20:37:51Z")
I’m honestly surprised. So what is a bank security guard’s purpose? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17009 "2018-02-22T20:49:00Z")
None anymore really, now that banks all have those Lexan shields at the teller windows, dye packs in the money bags, cameras everywhere, etc. Most transactions aren’t in currency anymore either. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17010 "2018-02-22T20:57:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > None anymore really, now that banks all have those Lexan shields at the teller windows, dye packs in the money bags, cameras everywhere, etc. Most transactions aren’t in currency anymore either. In many parts of the US, banks still have un-shielded teller windows. I certainly have seen banks like you describe, most consistently in NYC, but “all banks” are not like that. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17011 "2018-02-22T20:57:45Z")
And the armed guards could very well prevent the “storm in with weapons drawn” style of bank robbery, assuming it was ever an issue to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17012 "2018-02-22T21:03:08Z")
It’s been a \*long \*time since I even heard of a bank robbery by anyone other than a desperate, stupid junkie acting alone, and never do they get very far. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17013 "2018-02-22T21:09:04Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > And the armed guards could very well prevent the “storm in with weapons drawn” style of bank robbery, assuming it was ever an issue to begin with. Do you think anyone would try that unless they have the security guard outnumbered and outgunned? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17014 "2018-02-22T21:17:41Z")
Curious little trivial tidbit that’s neither here nor there: apparently two years ago Pence had just one bank account with $15,000 in it. This was just before he became running mate alongside President Maybe One Day, Eric. So when the VP gig eventually goes bust, hopefully MP will have to do something embarrassingly menial to buoy up his precarious finances. ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17015 "2018-02-22T21:36:28Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Curious little trivial tidbit that’s neither here nor there: apparently two years ago Pence had just one bank account with $15,000 in it. This was just before he became running mate alongside President Maybe One Day, Eric. > So when the VP gig eventually goes bust, hopefully MP will have to do something embarrassingly menial to buoy up his precarious finances. It’s going to be one of two things: (1) He’s going to go get some “chair” at Liberty University or something equally bigoted and go on the Speech circuit to make 5-6 figures per speech. Or (2) He’s going to be in a nice place where he doesn’t have to be alone with any women who aren’t his wife that also has free housing, clothing, and 3 hot meals a day… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17016 "2018-02-22T21:41:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I agree completely. Now is not the time for euphemisms! I agree, and it’s also time to stop worrying about whether the rightwing-sovereign-alt-white-ElmerFudd wingnuts feel insulted by our lack of sufficient subservience. The feelz of people who were damn near killed, and the feelz of the people left behind by those who were killed, means more to me than the feelz of a bunch of G.I. Joe wannabe morons. Be more respectful? They need to follow their own advice. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17017 "2018-02-22T21:42:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’m honestly surprised. So what is a bank security guard’s purpose? There are isssues that happen that aren’t robberies: belligerent customers, panhandlers, just keeping an eye out when the change truck comes in, etc. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17018 "2018-02-22T21:43:19Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’m in a restaurant, just saw a news crawl on TV screen that said an NRA official is blaming gun-free zones for school shootings. Right. Do they allow any and all armed people into the NRA headquarters building? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17019 "2018-02-22T21:47:56Z")
More pathetic than clusterfuck. [Trump has ‘45’ embroidered on his shirt cuffs — but style experts say it’s a big mistake](http://start.att.net/news/read/category/news/article/business_insider-trump_has_45_embroidered_on_his_shirt_cuffs_but_st-newscred2) > [@](#): > > Style experts have debated the merits of any kind of monograms on clothing for decades, and it’s a heated topic. > > “The people most likely to be impressed by … embroidery are by definition allergic to the ideas that elegance is restraint and discretion the better part of not looking goofy,” men’s style expert Troy Patterson wrote [in 2013 for Slate.](http://www.slate.com/articles/life/gentleman_scholar/2013/05/monograms_and_etiquette_is_it_tacky_to_get_initials_on_my_dress_shirts.html) We all know that restraint and discretion does not describe the Howling Yam. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17020 "2018-02-22T21:51:03Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The feelz of people who were damn near killed, and the feelz of the people left behind by those who were killed, means more to me than the feelz of a bunch of G.I. Joe wannabe morons. Mostly G.I. Joe fantasy, [Cadet Bone Spurs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwNwLQtpqnk) reality. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17021 "2018-02-22T22:09:18Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Do they allow any and all armed people into the NRA headquarters building? Ooooo… excellent question. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17022 "2018-02-22T22:17:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > If thump gets crossways with the NRA, might that make some of his die-hard supporters desert him? Thump backpedals. What else is new? > [@](#): > > Trump defends the “Great American Patriots” at the NRA > > After firing off five tweets this morning outlining where he stands on gun reform, President Trump defended the NRA’s EVP Wayne LaPierre, Executive Director Chris Cox, and other members. > … Can’t risk making them mad. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17023 "2018-02-22T22:21:38Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I was looking at my lottery ticket last night, and realized that if I won, then I could hire myself a bunch of liberal arts humanities majors to combat the trolls. Have them go out for 40 hours a week, refuse to take troll bait, and raise the level of discourse overall. > > Well, I didn’t win (fortunately that just means the jackpot is bigger for when I win next week), Excuse me, when YOU win? Just who is it who called dibs on that jackpot? Was it you? No, according to my records, it wasn’t. Was it me? Why, bless my soul, so it was! Good spending plan, though. I shall take it under consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17024 "2018-02-22T22:45:06Z")
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