# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 853
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17045 "2018-02-23T03:28:39Z")
Next time, try researching your lame arguments. At least you’ll be embarrassing yourself for the right reason. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17046 "2018-02-23T03:57:05Z")
Better yet, he could try not being a vile excuse for a supposed human being. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17047 "2018-02-23T04:19:24Z")
> [@JBGUSA](#): > > If we had total gun control would be wonderful. Peace on earth, goodwill to men and women, the Age of Aquarius. For good measure we should all beat our swords into plowshares, and spears into pruning hooks. Nation shall not make war upon nation. And we shall learn war and fighting no more. > > Such a move would liberate the human spirit in a magnificent manner. Sunrises and sunsets would gain new glory. Kim il Un of North Korea would link arms with free world leaders as they sang in unison “All We Are Saying (Is Give Peace a Chance” or Melanie’s "There’s a Chance Peace Will Come. > [@JBGUSA](#): > > Maybe they’d never die. We’d solve the problem of mortality. It’s hard to tell if you think you’re funny or you’re just an asshole ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17048 "2018-02-23T04:21:15Z")
No, it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17049 "2018-02-23T04:25:13Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > It’s hard to tell if you think you’re funny or you’re just an asshole Those aren’t exclusive categories. He’s an asshole who thinks he’s being funny. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17050 "2018-02-23T05:01:43Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Then there was the time that the Republicans wanted to let people bring guns into their convention- but the Secret Service said “Hell No !” > > [Republican Convention: Guns Won't Be Allowed at Arena | TIME](http://time.com/4399500/republican-convention-guns/) > > I wonder why they weren’t grateful for the extra help accorded by a couple of hundred “good guys with guns” ?? They never seem to think through this “good guy with a gun” protecting public spaces thing that is supposed to be the answer. Because those good guys aren’t going to let Buddy bring his gun in. But Buddy is supposed to be able to bring his gun anywhere. And now his freedoms are being trampled by the good guys with guns he said were needed to keep crazy guys with guns out. It’s quite a Catch 22 scenario. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17051 "2018-02-23T05:17:26Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > “Is it over yet? Can I go play golf nao plz?” I was thinking something more on the lines of “Thank Christ they’ve stopped talking about Mueller and the Russians for a couple of days.” Of course that will probably be over by the beginning of next week. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17052 "2018-02-23T05:33:26Z")
Are you suggesting he arranged to have a (maga-hat wearing) lunatic shoot up a school so it would eclipse the Mueller indictments? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17053 "2018-02-23T05:38:44Z")
So [it’s looking like Trump isn’t the only person in the Trump family/organization/administration that knows lots of criminals](https://apnews.com/c303bcc5511d402b877f9555bb23bc0f/China-prosecuting-tycoon-who-considered-Kushner-investment): > [@](#): > > The founder of one of China’s biggest insurers, who had discussed possibly investing in a Manhattan skyscraper owned by the family of U.S. President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, will be prosecuted for financial offenses and regulators have taken control of his company, the government announced Friday. > > Anbang Insurance Group chairman Wu Xiaohui is charged with improper fundraising and “taking others’ money,” according to a statement by the Shanghai prosecutor’s office. It gave no details and there was no indication the charges were linked to Wu’s talks with the family of Jared Kushner, which ended last March with no deal. Is anyone surprised? ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17054 "2018-02-23T05:52:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s been a \*long \*time since I even heard of a bank robbery by anyone other than a desperate, stupid junkie acting alone, and never do they get very far. Actually, from what I’ve read - granted, it was in a book called “Where the Money’s At” chronicling the most successful bank robberies, so I’m sure this can be taken with a grain of salt - most bank robberies are successful, and they get away. So long as it’s a “note” robbery where the person approaches a teller one-on-one and demands the money without drawing attention. The tellers are trained to hand over what’s in their drawers, then hit the alarm as the robber is leaving. However, most bank robbers get caught _in the long run_ because that most successful strategy isn’t a particularly profitable one - it’s only going to net you a few thousand to a few tens of thousands of dollars. They almost always end up robbing more banks, then the odds of something going wrong pile up, and if they beat those odds, the feds start noticing a pattern and are staking out the next most likely targets waiting for the serial bank robber the next time. ETA: A quick Google seems to bear this out, apparently in the UK only 20 percent of bank robbers get caught. And the FBI only recovers 22% of stolen money: [https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/06/11/what-you-should-know-before-robbing-a-bank](https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/06/11/what-you-should-know-before-robbing-a-bank) ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17055 "2018-02-23T06:12:14Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I was thinking something more on the lines of “Thank Christ they’ve stopped talking about Mueller and the Russians for a couple of days.” Of course that will probably be over by the beginning of next week. Now that you mention it: [For the weary White House, Florida shooting offered a ‘reprieve’ from scandals](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-the-weary-white-house-florida-shooting-offered-a-reprieve-from-scandals/2018/02/19/04293442-158a-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?utm_term=.2cf7feef5a39) > [@](#): > > “For everyone, it was a distraction or a reprieve,” said the White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reflect internal conversations. “A lot of people here felt like it was a reprieve from seven or eight days of just getting pummeled.” > The official likened the brief political calm to the aftermath of the October shooting in Las Vegas that left 58 dead and hundreds more injured. That tragedy united White House aides and the country in their shared mourning for the victims and their families. > “But as we all know, sadly, when the coverage dies down a little bit, we’ll be back through the chaos,” the official said. Yes, it’s so sad that we don’t have mass shootings gruesome enough that they still get national news media coverage often enough to distract from your loathsome and incompetent administration every day. Also it’s sad that you haven’t done the human race a favor and nominated yourself for a Darwin Award, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17056 "2018-02-23T07:30:34Z")
And yet that heartless cunt, Dana Loesch from the NRA, castigates liberal media for loving shootings for all the crying white mothers that turn into ratings gold, when the fucking White House is stating outright that they’re thankful for the latest mass shooting - as a salve to their own incompetence, no less. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17057 "2018-02-23T11:09:18Z")
Whatever happened to that rebuttal memo the Democrats were going to reveal before thump put the kibosh on it? That was several news cycles ago, right? God, it’s hard to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17058 "2018-02-23T12:58:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Whatever happened to that rebuttal memo the Democrats were going to reveal before thump put the kibosh on it? That was several news cycles ago, right? God, it’s hard to keep up. Schiff is still working with the FBI to redact any classified information, and he’s hoping to have it released in the next few days. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17059 "2018-02-23T15:38:34Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Now that you mention it: > > [For the weary White House, Florida shooting offered a ‘reprieve’ from scandals](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-the-weary-white-house-florida-shooting-offered-a-reprieve-from-scandals/2018/02/19/04293442-158a-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?utm_term=.2cf7feef5a39) I’ve been thinking since the beginning that the shooting is a godsend for Loser Donnie. Facebook friends who raked Loser Donnie over the coals every day, many times a day, have been focusing almost exclusively on the shootings. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17060 "2018-02-23T15:58:55Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Now that you mention it: > > [For the weary White House, Florida shooting offered a ‘reprieve’ from scandals](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-the-weary-white-house-florida-shooting-offered-a-reprieve-from-scandals/2018/02/19/04293442-158a-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?utm_term=.2cf7feef5a39) > > Yes, it’s so sad that we don’t have mass shootings gruesome enough that they still get national news media coverage often enough to distract from your loathsome and incompetent administration every day. Also it’s sad that you haven’t done the human race a favor and nominated yourself for a Darwin Award, asshole. Holy crap, that’s just pathetic! ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17061 "2018-02-23T16:12:33Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’ve been thinking since the beginning that the shooting is a godsend for Loser Donnie. Facebook friends who raked Loser Donnie over the coals every day, many times a day, have been focusing almost exclusively on the shootings. Although now we have something else to loathe Loser Donnie about: coming up with the phenomenally stupid idea of arming teachers. “Maybe we can give them a bonus” – how about paying them a decent salary and not making them pay for their own school supplies? And if an armed security guard was completely ineffectual, what makes you think an armed math teacher is going to morph into Rambo? Gag. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17062 "2018-02-23T16:16:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’ve been thinking since the beginning that the shooting is a godsend for Loser Donnie. Facebook friends who raked Loser Donnie over the coals every day, many times a day, have been focusing almost exclusively on the shootings. My FB friends have been raking the Republican congress for the shootings more than Trump (but they still are raking Trump), so it’s not that much of a reprieve. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17063 "2018-02-23T16:23:14Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’ve been thinking since the beginning that the shooting is a godsend for Loser Donnie. Facebook friends who raked Loser Donnie over the coals every day, many times a day, have been focusing almost exclusively on the shootings. Or maybe not. Poll finds just 1/3 approve of Trump’s handling of the Florida shooting. > [@](#): > > Mr. Trump gets mostly negative - and heavily partisan - marks for his handling of the Florida school shooting. Seven-in-ten Republicans approve while Democrats, and a plurality of Independents, do not. - [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-support-for-stricter-gun-laws-rises-divisions-on-arming-teachers/) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17064 "2018-02-23T16:40:21Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Although now we have something else to loathe Loser Donnie about: coming up with the phenomenally stupid idea of arming teachers. “Maybe we can give them a bonus” – how about paying them a decent salary and not making them pay for their own school supplies? And if an armed security guard was completely ineffectual, what makes you think an armed math teacher is going to morph into Rambo? > > Gag. But this is why Loser Donnie thinks it’s a GOOD idea… > **[Trump says John Kelly would stop mass shootings if he was a teacher with a...](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/trump-says-john-kelly-stop-mass-shootings-teacher-gun-bullets-flying/)** > > President Donald Trump on Thursday insisted that White House Chief of Staff John Kelly could personally stop any school shooting if he were a teacher armed with a gun.At a roundtable discussion about school violence, Trump noted Kelly was a four star... …Because John Kelly is a badass. If John Kelly was teaching history with a gun strapped to his side, no school shooter would dare try to take him on. Because the bullets would be flying towards the shooter. No explanation of how we are going to replace every history teacher in the USA with John Kelly. Because Trump doesn’t concern himself with details. He’ll let Kushner figure it out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=852) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=854)