# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 855
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17085 "2018-02-23T19:57:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Florida’s legislature came up with the bright idea of requiring “In God We Trust” signs on every school campus. That’ll solve the problem. Dang! :smack: Shoulda thought of that earlier. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > How do we know the cops won’t come in, see a Good Guy With a Gun and blow them away without asking questions? Well, they probably will. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17086 "2018-02-23T20:04:14Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > How would you like to be a black teacher with a gun in your hand when the cops get there? From what I have read, I would prefer to not be a black person when the police show up. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17087 "2018-02-23T20:15:24Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > A semi-serious proposal, based on Trump’s statement that the knowledge that some teachers may be armed would be a deterrent: > > Every school in America posts a sign that says “Teachers on this campus may be armed.” And that’s it…no actual guns. So there’s a tiny possibility that a shooting may be deterred, at zero risk of mis-use or mishandling of firearms. That would be like putting a bull’s-eye on every teacher’s back. A gunman walks into a school, sees a sign that teachers may be armed, and his first thought will be, “take out the teachers first.” Spectacularly stupid and irresponsible idea. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17088 "2018-02-23T20:27:26Z")
Beware of Vicious Killer Dogs signs would do just as good. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17089 "2018-02-23T20:29:19Z")
Trump punts the Kushner security clearance problem to Kelly. > **[Trump says final say on Jared Kushner clearance is up to John Kelly](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-holds-press-conference-with-australian-prime-minister-live-updates/)** > > President Trump took questions alongside Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull at the White House ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17090 "2018-02-23T20:30:23Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Beware of Vicious Killer Dogs signs would do just as good. How about: “THIS SCHOOL HAS NUKES! DUCK AND COVER, SICKOS!” ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17091 "2018-02-23T20:36:43Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > How about: “THIS SCHOOL HAS NUKES! DUCK AND COVER, SICKOS!” I’d prefer: CHILDREN IN THIS SCHOOL ARE ENCOURAGED TO BLOW THEIR NOSES INTO THEIR HANDS AND WIPE THEIR HANDS ON DOORKNOBS. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17092 "2018-02-23T21:08:54Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Florida’s legislature came up with the bright idea of requiring “In God We Trust” signs on every school campus. That’ll solve the problem. That’s a preemptive strategy. It comes before “thoughts and prayers”. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17093 "2018-02-23T21:11:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump punts the Kushner security clearance problem to Kelly. > [Trump says final say on Jared Kushner clearance is up to John Kelly](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-holds-press-conference-with-australian-prime-minister-live-updates/) Heh. > [@](#): > > Trump praises Australia’s “merit-based” immigration > Australia has stricter immigration policies than the U.S., and Mr. Trump said he wants to mimic that. He praised the “merit-based” immigration system of the land down under. Mr. Trump said he hopes members of Congress are listening. [Op-Ed in USA Today, 10 days ago](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/13/canada-merit-based-immigration-worth-emulating-but-trump-gets-wrong-jeremy-robbins-column/309201002/): > [@](#): > > Trump likes Canada’s merit-based immigration, but it’s not what he thinks > > Merit-based doesn’t mean elitist. It means casting a wide net. Let’s get creative without closing our doors to refugees or the world’s strivers. > > President Trump says we’d be better off with an immigration system based on merit. He’s right — but it’s not clear that he understands everything merit-based actually means. > > Today’s proponents of a merit-based fix to immigration didn’t invent the idea. In fact, it’s been on the U.S. negotiating table for years and other countries rely heavily on merit-based systems. They work, and not because the merit-based approach installs some kind of punitive purity test as the price of admission. It’s not one-dimensional and it doesn’t limit recruiting to one continent or country (Norway, say). Instead, merit-based immigration serves a clear economic purpose — attracting and welcoming people with a wide range of skills, all tailored to a country’s economic needs. > > The White House likes to praise Canada’s merit-based immigration system, to cite one example. Yes, America would do well to emulate Canada — but not for reasons the president talks about. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17094 "2018-02-23T21:48:20Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > How would you like to be a black teacher with a gun in your hand when the cops get there? Remember the final scene in the original “Night Of The Living Dead”? Where the BLACK hero looks out the door and gets shot to pieces? It would be just like that. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17095 "2018-02-23T21:51:00Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > i’d prefer: > > Children in this school are encouraged to blow their noses into their hands and wipe their hands on doorknobs. “The students of this school have all been exposed to radiation. Do not make them angry” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17096 "2018-02-23T21:52:21Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Heh. [Op-Ed in USA Today, 10 days ago](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/13/canada-merit-based-immigration-worth-emulating-but-trump-gets-wrong-jeremy-robbins-column/309201002/): Australia and Canada also have more sensible gun laws. And yeah, they ARE allowed to own guns, but they have LAWS. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17097 "2018-02-23T22:17:56Z")
Teachers with guns: maybe some proponents of this criminally insane idea are picturing some sort of 1950s sitcom “school” set, with a teacher standing at the front of the room and students neat and orderly in their rows of desks. But the reality is kids swarming around teachers in hallways (teachers are required to stand out there to supervise) and in classrooms (because the old ‘neat rows of desks’ paradigm is very rare, nowadays. You have kids milling around and doing projects and sitting at big tables, and the teacher moving around right next to them). Kids swarming around armed teachers are going to be in easy reach of that gun in that holster. Hands up if you believe no kid will grab one of those guns…anyone? Bueller? Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17098 "2018-02-23T22:43:33Z")
[DHS deputy head Elaine Duke to leave Trump administration](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375351-dhs-deputy-head-elaine-duke-to-leave-trump-administration) > [@](#): > > Elaine Duke, the No. 2 official at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), is stepping down from her post in the Trump administration. > > … > > Duke is leaving the Trump administration after serving in the federal government for nearly three decades, under both Republican and Democratic presidents. > > … > > During her time as the top DHS official starting in late July, Duke oversaw the department’s response to a series of hurricanes that devastated parts of Texas, Louisiana and Florida, as well as U.S. territories in the Caribbean. > > Duke came under fire, however, after she suggested that the federal response to Hurricane Maria, which devastated Puerto Rico, was a “good news story.” > > Duke also reportedly faced pressure from Kelly, who urged her in November to deport thousands of Hondurans residing in the U.S. after DHS extended temporary protected status for the residents. > > According to a Washington Post report, that episode angered Duke, who refused to reverse the decision to extend the residency permits. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17099 "2018-02-23T22:58:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [DHS deputy head Elaine Duke to leave Trump administration](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375351-dhs-deputy-head-elaine-duke-to-leave-trump-administration) So then, other than a bad choice of words regarding the hurricane, she is really leaving because she had to choose between being s dirtbag, and doing her job … (refused to deport thousands of Hondurans residing in the U.S. after DHS extended temporary protected status for the residents). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17100 "2018-02-23T23:17:15Z")
Cadet Bone Spurs [calls](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/23/trump-calls-parkland-deputy-who-failed-stop-school-shooting-coward/366520002/) the deputy at Parkland school a “coward”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17101 "2018-02-23T23:21:32Z")
Who is going to do the survey of military veterans: “Do you think people who dodged the draft should be calling other people ‘cowards’?” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17102 "2018-02-23T23:31:12Z")
President Gooey Fudge in the Centre is just jumping all up and down about this Jerusalem capital thing and moved up the date of the [transfer from Tel-Aviv](http://www.latimes.com/local/la-fg-us-embassy-jerusalem-20180223-story.html) to May. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17103 "2018-02-23T23:42:16Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > President Gooey Fudge in the Centre is just jumping all up and down about this Jerusalem capital thing and moved up the date of the [transfer from Tel-Aviv](http://www.latimes.com/local/la-fg-us-embassy-jerusalem-20180223-story.html) to May. He has simply GOT to have a hot war, if he’s to escape being held accountable for all the crimes Mueller is currently documenting. If the Koreans won’t cooperate, then maybe Middle Easterners will. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17104 "2018-02-23T23:57:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Florida’s legislature came up with the bright idea of requiring “In God We Trust” signs on every school campus. That’ll solve the problem. I’m pretty sure that doing so will be ruled unconstitutional as soon as the ACLU or the Freedom From Religion people file suit in the appropriate courts. And I hope that when it is, the judge writing the majority statement lays into them for being useless, pandering, spineless, whimpering idiots. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=854) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=856)