# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17285 "2018-03-01T04:44:57Z")

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He also said that during the debates/run up to the election - when talking about reimplimenting “stop and frisk” - he stated that if the person the police ‘stopped and frisked’ had a weapon, it would be confiscated.

> **[Trump calls for police to take guns during stop-and-frisks](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/297264-trump-calls-for-police-to-take-guns-away-during-stop-and/)**
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> “They will stop, they will frisk, and they will take the gun away,” Trump says.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17286 "2018-03-01T04:47:40Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Obama never said to take the guns without regulation. Everyone believed he did.
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> Howling Yam says no gun control, okay maybe bump stocks, raise the age, take the guns from the retards, tomorrow he’ll switch…
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> And everyone on pro-gun rights doesn’t even twitch.

It’s almost enough to make you think they were bothered about something else …

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17287 "2018-03-01T04:49:33Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “Take the Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second”
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> Imagine for one second Obama saying this.

a) I think we may have FINALLY found something Trump says that’s horribly illegal and unconstitutional, that Trump voters will actually care about. Everything else has been okay, but hands off muh guns!

b) Who would have ever imagined a Republican president taking a harder stance on guns than anyone on the left, while meanwhile senior Democrats are [warning all candidates to avoid all discussion of gun control, instead offering "thoughts and prayers?"](http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/375861-progressives-torch-dccc-over-gun-control-single-payer-support)Granted, we all know Trump will get distracted by something shiny, Pence or whoever else is closest will say “I think what the President meant was…” and he’ll shift his stance to whatever he thinks will glorify him the most, require the least effort, and net him the most profit, but still. It’s positively shocking seeing a Republican advocate for any gun-control not of the “go to the shooting range more, you’ll control your gun better” variety.

And may be enough to finally chip away a few percentage points among the stubborn 32% loyalists to the God-President Twitler.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17288 "2018-03-01T04:59:09Z")

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He didn’t take a stance, he said what he thought would make people clap and say “yay Trump!” to boost his ego.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17289 "2018-03-01T04:59:25Z")

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It’s all part of a master plan. Now the NRA will try marketing guns to liberals.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17290 "2018-03-01T06:15:05Z")

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Jared Kuschner now has a lower security clearance than the official White House calligraphy-person.

> **[The White House chief calligrapher has a higher clearance than Jared Kushner...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/white-house-calligrapher-security-clearance/index.html)**
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> One of the White House's most important diplomats happens to be an artist -- with a top secret security clearance.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17291 "2018-03-01T09:49:17Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Jared Kuschner now has a lower security clearance than the official White House calligraphy-person.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/white-house-calligrapher-security-clearance/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/white-house-calligrapher-security-clearance/index.html)

I’m amazed that they didn’t fire the White House calligrapher and hire some kind of ex-con document forger to do the job.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17292 "2018-03-01T12:09:18Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Well, we don’t have the quiet good taste of Ben Carson — whose Maryland house is stuffed with self-portraits, including one with Jesus. Nothing says “class” like commissioning a self portrait with Jesus in it.
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> [Ben Carson's house: a homage to himself – in pictures | US news | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2015/nov/07/ben-carson-house-homage-to-himself-in-pictures)

No Elvis velvet?

Jesus, Ben. Thinks public housing is too nice, against his own department’s mission, but spends $30,000 of his department’s money on a dinette set for his office.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17293 "2018-03-01T14:49:03Z")

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The fact that the White House has a Chief Calligrapher who hand-writes invitations to state dinners is pretty cool. That gave me a smile this morning.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17294 "2018-03-01T14:55:27Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Jesus, Ben. Thinks public housing is too nice, against his own department’s mission, but spends $30,000 of his department’s money on a dinette set for his office.

Oh, the dinette set was only the **beginning.**

[https://wonkette.com/630595/ben-carson-spends-165000-on-lounge-furniture-while-making-sure-poor-arent-too-cozy](https://wonkette.com/630595/ben-carson-spends-165000-on-lounge-furniture-while-making-sure-poor-arent-too-cozy)

Why does Carson need a dining table and chairs in his OFFICE, anyway? Doesn’t he go home for dinner? I can’t imagine him putting in any overtime hours.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17295 "2018-03-01T14:57:18Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [all Hope is lost](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376108-hope-hicks-resigns-from-white-house)

And now she is free to pursue her real ambition - to be the fourth ex-Mrs Donny Trump.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17296 "2018-03-01T15:18:14Z")

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[White House furious at embarrassing stories about HUD](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-furious-at-embarrassing-stories-about-hud/ar-BBJIy5h?li=BBnb7Kz)

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> Senior White House aides are furious about a series of negative stories about frivolous spending at the Department of Housing and Urban Development and have taken a more hands-on role in trying to stem the tide of negative news, sources with knowledge of the situation tell CNN

They are furious over the _news stories_, not the behavior of the tone HUD secretary.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17297 "2018-03-01T15:20:15Z")

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Yes. You’ll recall the problem the right had with a leaky White House wasn’t that the Trump Administration was incompetent and dysfunctional, the problem was that people knew about it.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17298 "2018-03-01T15:33:26Z")

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Or when Rob Porter’s alleged domestic violence became news and Trump said “it’s a tough time for him.”

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17299 "2018-03-01T15:34:35Z")

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He misspoke. [Flake on Trump's 'take the guns' remark: 'He misspoke' - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/01/trump-take-guns-flake-response-431431)  
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**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17300 "2018-03-01T15:39:00Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> He misspoke. [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/01/trump-take-guns-flake-response-431431](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/01/trump-take-guns-flake-response-431431)  
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Flake is sticking up for the Howling Yam? Is he going to un-retire next?  
Or did Trump’s check not bounce this time?

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17301 "2018-03-01T15:40:11Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Flake is sticking up for the Howling Yam? Is he going to un-retire next?  
> Or did Trump’s check not bounce this time?

I think they want to claim Trump misspoke so that when Trump comes back saying something else, they can avoid either calling him out or supporting his idiocy.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17302 "2018-03-01T15:42:11Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> a) I think we may have FINALLY found something Trump says that’s horribly illegal and unconstitutional, that Trump voters will actually care about. Everything else has been okay, but hands off muh guns!

You don’t understand Trump supporters. When they hear Trump say “take guns away from bad guys,” they _know_ he isn’t talking about them. He’s talking about _obvious_ bad guys and mentally ill people. They trust their (white) police officers to make the right call. And this is far better than actual gun control laws, because when laws change, it might make it more difficult for _everyone_ to buy guns.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17303 "2018-03-01T15:42:16Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> And now she is free to pursue her real ambition - to be the fourth ex-Mrs Donny Trump.

Why do you think she hasn’t been pursuing that all along?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/17304 "2018-03-01T16:16:25Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Oh, the dinette set was only the **beginning.**
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> [https://wonkette.com/630595/ben-carson-spends-165000-on-lounge-furniture-while-making-sure-poor-arent-too-cozy](https://wonkette.com/630595/ben-carson-spends-165000-on-lounge-furniture-while-making-sure-poor-arent-too-cozy)
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> Why does Carson need a dining table and chairs in his OFFICE, anyway? Doesn’t he go home for dinner? I can’t imagine him putting in any overtime hours.

It’s hard to make it home for dinner when you’re the [sloth from Zootopia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyUBTq0amb8). Hell, it’s hard to make it across your office when you’re the sloth from Zootopia.\*

\*Credit to Trevor Noah for the Zootopia sloth comparison. Now I can’t un-see it.

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